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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
 Posted - 10/19/2002 : 19:24:35
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Hi everyone,
I'm helping out with the web-site by compiling information regarding the FB&TC's members past & present. So, if any of you would like to tell us what you know about any of the catholics or Frank, feel free to chime in here. I'm sure many of you know tidbits here and there about your favorite catholic, and we'd love to include it in our info. Thanks in advance!
-Zan
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2002 : 19:48:03
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Ok, so I'll start the ball rolling to give you an idea of info that we're looking for:
Dave Philips is originally from Athens, Georgia. Before joining FB&TC's, he was a co-founder of "Jack Logan and Liquor Cabinet", where his credits include writing, lead guitar, and vocals. Other credits include working with Tommy Stinson in his post-Replacements band "Perfect", and with Tom Waits.
Oh gosh, Dave, I hope I have this all correct. I know there is so much more to add. Feel free to correct me if needed!
-Zan
P.S. would love it if Frank and Harris would chime in about themselves and the other guys. Thanks so much!!
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2002 : 21:31:35
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weren't dave m. and scott in polaris (the "pete and pete band")?
i've always wanted to know what other stuff dave phillips has done. i'll check that out.
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2002 : 22:24:53
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| Yeah I always figured they were because I read that Polaris was formed with people from Miracle Legion, which Dave and Scott were in I believe |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2002 : 22:31:38
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| Woah, no way...Scott and Dave were from Polaris, the Pete and Pete band? I love that show...it's great...holy crap, that means they'd be in the beginning of the show when they show the band playing. Woah! For those who have Comcast digital cable, Pete and Pete is still on the Noggin/The N channel. |
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harris
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Posted - 10/19/2002 : 23:35:55
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Originally posted by El Barto
Woah, no way...Scott and Dave were from Polaris, the Pete and Pete band? I love that show...it's great...holy crap, that means they'd be in the beginning of the show when they show the band playing. Woah! For those who have Comcast digital cable, Pete and Pete is still on the Noggin/The N channel.
harris polaris and jersey polaris a.k.a. scott and dave |
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2002 : 05:45:24
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Thanks guys, keep 'em coming!
Special thanks to Harris for chiming in!!
-Zan
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/20/2002 : 08:18:10
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haha holy crap thats great. that song is cool. yo el barto, i watch it somewhat often at my friends house becuase he has digital cable haha
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d3niz3n
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 10/20/2002 : 09:02:37
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| I know that Rich Gilbert played for the Zulus in the late 80s and early 90s. this was really a great band. when they opened for the pixies in 89 in montreal i was really impressed. thankfully i had already picked up their album in boston that summer. now, it most probable that rich gilbert also played for Human Sexual Response, which was later to become the Zulus. another great band with lots of wierd and funny songs. apparently the inspiration for their song Jackie Onassis goes back to when she was in boston shopping at filene's basement. one of the band members worked there and was asked to get a pair of shoes she wanted to try on. as the story goes, at least the version i've heard, he gave them a good licking before letting her give them a go. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2002 : 18:17:58
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| Oh my god, that blows me away! I love Pete and Pete, and have been watching it since its days on Nick...and I never knew (well, back then I didn't know of FB) I've been watching Scott and Dave in the opening credits...wow...haha, that really blows me away. |
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coimbra
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Posted - 10/20/2002 : 22:58:34
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Well what can one say about Mr. Eric Drew Feldman? Somehow Eric Feldman has been making "avant garde" music for more than twenty five years. He ,and fellow Frank Black coloborator Morris Tepper, joined Captain Beefheart's Magic band in 1977 as the bass/ keyboard player, for three studio albums. For a rather complete list of Mr. Feldman's work over the past three decades direct your broswer to http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=SEARCH&sql=R75478#APPEAR
for good interview use this url http://members.lycos.nl/teejo/argue/ericsaga.html
I for one am extremely glad to see Mr. Feldman back in the mix with the last few albums and tours.
But what happened to Rich Gilbert? He does not play on the Devil's Workshop and he was not touring with group the last time they came through town. I am a big fan of Rich Gilbert's guitar work and I was wondering if he was still around.
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/21/2002 : 02:00:45
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I am also glad that Eric is back - but I'm a great Beefheart fan (so is Frank, I believe).
Did Frank not say that Rich Gilbert had another engagement at the time they recorded Devil's Workshop (?Tanya Donnelly) but that he would be back? |
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2002 : 05:55:26
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Yes, I believe Frank did confirm that Rich had a prior committment and couldn't do the DW tracks. Frank also emphasized that it wasn't a big deal, and that Rich was still part of the line-up, etc etc. I think Rich joined them on the latest recording that they did in August.
I have a Rich Gilbert CD around here somewhere, have to dig that out, because I can't even remember what it is called, etc. But I picked it up at the Trocodero show last April, and I think it is/was a new band of his.
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2002 : 05:58:13
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Just wanted to say guys, you ROCK! Thanks for all the help with the info. Keep it coming...
What about Lyle Workman, Joey Santiago, etc etc? Someone must have some obsure info on them that we don't already know.
-Zan
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/22/2002 : 00:54:12
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Rich Gilberts Band 'The Coronet Premiers' on Lunch Records.
Really weird Indie music, with (sadly) drum computers and synths.
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2002 : 05:28:00
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Yes, that's it. Thanks for clearing that up.
-Zan |
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =
USA
344 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2002 : 06:00:08
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| Don't know from what far-away Super-Guitarist planet he came from, but I do know that Lyle Workman has been playing with Beck since he left Frank. Seen him on Leno one time. |
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coimbra
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Posted - 10/22/2002 : 22:16:31
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| Lyle work has his own website with biographical information and a listing of albums and tours that he was played on. http://www.lyleworkman.com/ |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 06:14:50
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Dave Philips and Moris Tepper have both played on various Tom Waits albums. That's pretty cool if you ask me.
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 07:33:52
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Hey Zanni,
I started a thread about Rich Gilbert which now resides on page 4 of this forum.
I got his sig. but failed to meet the guy when he toured with Tanya D. earlier this year, and just wondered who else has even heard of Concussion Ensemble. I have an albumn of theirs Stampede which I highly recommend.
There's the usual thing about him being well known around the whole MA music scene & thats about all I can think of for now...
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2002 : 07:50:02
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Hey Leah, thanks! You and everyone else have been so awesome at providing info. I truly appreciate it!
I never met Rich, but I've heard he's a really nice guy. I've met Frank, Dave P, Dave M, and Eric Drew Feldman. They are all super nice, but my fav has to be Dave P. He is just such a sweetie, and didn't seem to mind stopping to chat for a few minutes after a show. But seriously, they're all really great guys.
Thanks again to everyone for all the help. We should have those bio-pages for the guys up soon. Keep the info coming, I'm constantly checking in for more as I write each one up.
-Zan
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holzgrafe
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 09:36:11
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Originally posted by Leah
There's the usual thing about him being well known around the whole MA music scene & thats about all I can think of for now...
Perhaps you're already onto this, but Rich shows up on some early Throwing Muses material. I forget if it's one (or both) of the first two albums or the early EPs, but within the context of his recent work with Tanya D, it was interesting to see he's basically a charter member of the Boston/4AD "Subbacultcha" family. - Mel |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 13:22:19
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Originally posted by zanni67
I never met Rich, but I've heard he's a really nice guy. I've met Frank, Dave P, Dave M, and Eric Drew Feldman. They are all super nice, but my fav has to be Dave P. He is just such a sweetie, and didn't seem to mind stopping to chat for a few minutes after a show. But seriously, they're all really great guys.
-Zan
i've been lucky enough to meet everyone except Dave M. and Scott..
but i totally agree about Dave P. i usually end up talking to him at some point at every show i see (since i always bug him).. and he's always cool. i feel special that i've been elevated to recognizable, annoying Frank Black fan.. it would be cool to see them on the East Coast and totally freak them out.. "hey guys.. i'm going on tour with you.. EVERYWHERE!"..
so what Tom Waits CD's does Dave P. play on?
Floop
also, while we're at it.. maybe it's time to solve the "where was Frank born?" issue. a while back, there was heated discussion about this on another list.. (involving theories about the St. Elizabeth's [hospital?] in Pan Am Highway).. i still believe that he was born in Long Beach, CA 1965.. anyone got valid information to prove otherwise? |
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2002 : 14:53:15
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Haha, ok, and I'll show up at a show on the West Coast. I would love to follow them around!! Wasn't there a guy who once spent his vacation following them on one of the tours??
The only Tom Waits CD I've found Dave on is Bone Machine from 1992. He plays guitar and pedal steel guitar on it. I can't find him on any others. But feel free to correct me, perhaps I missed something.
Zan
P.S. I highly recommend the Jack Logan stuff, it's very cool lo-fi.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 16:07:14
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Originally posted by zanni67
Haha, ok, and I'll show up at a show on the West Coast. I would love to follow them around!! Wasn't there a guy who once spent his vacation following them on one of the tours??
that might be me.. i "followed them around" earlier this year, while umemployed. which is kind of like a vacation.. but yeah.. only in and around the California / Arizona area.. |
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Bohemoth
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 17:00:21
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| that could possibly be me too. i took off work and went to 5 shows in 2000 in one week. taking off again and going to four next month in one week. |
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2002 : 17:32:48
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I think we should all apply for jobs with Frank as roadies! Actually, I'd do it for free. But I'm sure the last thing they want is a woman on the road with them!
Zan
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2002 : 17:42:13
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Originally posted by holzgrafe
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Originally posted by Leah
There's the usual thing about him being well known around the whole MA music scene & thats about all I can think of for now...
Perhaps you're already onto this, but Rich shows up on some early Throwing Muses material. I forget if it's one (or both) of the first two albums or the early EPs, but within the context of his recent work with Tanya D, it was interesting to see he's basically a charter member of the Boston/4AD "Subbacultcha" family. - Mel
Once again, thanks for the info. Especially this obscure stuff on Rich. Sometimes it is difficult to verify if someone you are 'searching' is the exact person! There are a few Rich Gilbert's out there, as well as Dave Philips', believe it or not.
Zan
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
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Posted - 10/23/2002 : 23:15:38
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quote:
Originally posted by zanni67
The only Tom Waits CD I've found Dave on is Bone Machine from 1992. He plays guitar and pedal steel guitar on it. I can't find him on any others. But feel free to correct me, perhaps I missed something.
Alls I can say is holy wow! Dave P really played on Bone Machine? For me that is the best record by one of the best music guys there ever was. No wonder he ended up a Catholic. I mean truly, even Frank should feel forunate. I dunno. I guess I kind of equate it to being one of the "journeyman"-type musicians playing on After the Goldrush or something. It's music history right in front of your nose. R-E-S-P-E-C-T
"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 10/24/2002 : 00:22:12
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Originally posted by Bohemoth
that could possibly be me too. i took off work and went to 5 shows in 2000 in one week. taking off again and going to four next month in one week.
a man after my own heart..
yeah, not to get all "i rule" but i have to say, i've actually seen Frank 10 times this year already..
i told Eric Drew Feldman at one show that i should get some kind of discount pass or something.. |
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
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Posted - 10/24/2002 : 13:40:34
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Originally posted by johndietzel
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Originally posted by zanni67
The only Tom Waits CD I've found Dave on is Bone Machine from 1992. He plays guitar and pedal steel guitar on it. I can't find him on any others. But feel free to correct me, perhaps I missed something.
Alls I can say is holy wow! Dave P really played on Bone Machine? For me that is the best record by one of the best music guys there ever was. No wonder he ended up a Catholic. I mean truly, even Frank should feel forunate. I dunno. I guess I kind of equate it to being one of the "journeyman"-type musicians playing on After the Goldrush or something. It's music history right in front of your nose. R-E-S-P-E-C-T
"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D
Yup, that's our Davey on it! Enjoy!!
Zan
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
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Posted - 10/26/2002 : 07:28:33
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By the way, I came across an album that some of you may be interested in like me if you are into Pete and Pete:
Polaris: Music from the Adventures of Pete and Pete
Check it out!
Zan
P.S. Harris and Dave M, we love ya!
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harris
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Posted - 10/26/2002 : 10:51:07
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Originally posted by zanni67
Haha, ok, and I'll show up at a show on the West Coast. I would love to follow them around!! Wasn't there a guy who once spent his vacation following them on one of the tours??
The only Tom Waits CD I've found Dave on is Bone Machine from 1992. He plays guitar and pedal steel guitar on it. I can't find him on any others. But feel free to correct me, perhaps I missed something.
Zan
P.S. I highly recommend the Jack Logan stuff, it's very cool lo-fi.
sorry to say that that is a different dave philips. catholic dave is philips and tom waits dave is phiLLips.
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
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Posted - 10/26/2002 : 11:24:12
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Really??!! Wow, sorry about that. I could have sworn I heard that Dave P (catholics) had played with Tom Waits. I guess I was wrong. Sorry again guys, but thanks for correcting me Harris.
Zan
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
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Posted - 10/26/2002 : 11:32:37
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By the way, I guess the reason I was convinced it was 'our Dave' was because his name is spelled wrong everywhere! I mean, even on one of the Jack Logan CD's he's credited as David PhiLLips, for heavens sake, and I'm damn sure he played with Jack!
So who is this 'other' Dave PhiLLips who plays guitar and pedal steel then???
Just curious!
Thanks again Harris, tell Dave I said hello. We met in Chicago in April, he may remember...
Zan
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zanni67
= Bio Elf =
643 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2002 : 11:54:10
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Harris, question for you:
On the Miracle Legion album "Drenched", the drummer credited is "Spot". Is that you? Just wondering, 'cause God forbid I screw up another bio, ya know??!! I'm gonna get fired...
Thanks,
Zan
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