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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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 Posted - 08/25/2003 : 08:00:41
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Well, now that it seems that our tribute CD is out there and starting to finally sink in, it's time to start looking to the future, which is to say, the upcoming Pixies tribute. For those who haven't been listening, that will start mid-Sept and should result in another shiny new CD a week or so before Christmas. But before we go there, we need to look at what we've done and how we got there, and how we could do it better the next time.
So, I throw this question out there: Bearing in mind the logistics of a project like this, considering possible up and downsides and the ultimate necessities and sacrifices that are involved, what did we do well in making this first disc and what would you change for the next one?
Given that, in my opinion, the first one was a great success, I'm not looking to use an totally different formula, just to add a few tweaks. Some topics that I'm especially interested in:
1. Claiming a song. Advance notice will be given to those involved in making the CD (Tim & Ryan) as well as to those who completed a track for the CD (even if it was b-sided) since they have shown themselves to be reliable. There's no penalty for those who signed up but did not complete nor for those who were too late to hop on board the last project. Thoughts?
As well, the problem was raised that people wanted songs that were claimed first by others and so they had to do their second or third choice even though they finished and the other did not. Given that we're going to have more people signing on for this one and less songs to choose from, this will be even more of a problem. The reason for claiming a song is that we want as much variety as possible and to encourage people to try songs they might not tackle otherwise, and that it helps me keep track of what's going on as well as getting everyone excited about the project. It also avoids having two or more members in direct competition with each other, which is NOT what this is about. I have some ideas, but I want to hear yours.
2. Numbers - 50+ people was a LOT to keep track of and deal with. Should there be some sort of limit to prevent it from getting big, ungangly, and out of control? Or other methods?
Well, there are others that people have suggested, but I'll leave it there for now as I have to get back to work, but bring on the commentary. I don't guarantee that I will use any idea I've said above nor that any idea suggested here will be implemented even if generally supported if it would hurt the potential for the CD. If you've posted your comments in other areas, please reiterate them here.
Thanks, I look forward to working with you all next month.
Dean
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
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Posted - 08/25/2003 : 08:13:49
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I think allowing those who completed tracks to choose first would be the best route to go. Everyone should have about 3 songs on their mind just in case the first pick is chosen already. And limiting each person to one song submission is a really good way to keep the number of tracks down, and a really good way to keep things fair.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2003 : 11:26:58
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Dean - you're a maniac. =)
Should we invite folks from the Breeders fansites to join in?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2003 : 12:13:38
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AdamWest
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Posted - 08/29/2003 : 07:42:33
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Sounds fair Dean.
Af far as the whole claiming a song thing...what if we all claim the songs we want. And if someone really feels strongly about doing a song someone else claimed...let em do it and submit it. The person who originally claimed it get's a priority consideration for the CD. If the original "claimer" either A) doesn't complete the song or B) it is not chosen for any of a number of reasons, then it goes to the second claimer. And to limit this maybe you could allow only one "back-up claimer". So in essence, any song could have two different people doing it.
Really, most people probably wont take the time to complete a song another person is working on simultaneously. Anyone doing so is taking a major risk, so it's really their own problem if they complete it..it's great, but so is the version completed by the original claimer. Dean, you're a fair guy and stick by the rules. So I don't think there'd be any hard feelings. It's not pitting 2 covers against each other. It's just giving priority to the guy who got in line first, but having a back up plan in case that guy fucks up.
The one bummer about the Frank Black Tribute was that a lot of cool songs were claimed by people that never even submitted a version of the song. This pissed me off because many songs I wanted to do originally were already claimed and I never did hear a cover of them.
By allowing multipile claims will probably, if anything...help the tribute album. Because most likely the coolest songs will be the ones everyone wants to do. If anything it'll give us more than one choice for the tribute album. Just imagine if some idiot claimed Here Comes Your Man and then never completes his track. I think about 100 people would be pissed that would've loved to cover that song. You get what I mean...I'll stop now.
Numbers: I know you have limited server space...and time to listen to tracks, but as far as numbers go. The more the better. The more tracks that are submitted...the more chance we have at getting a great compilation. It's just a way of playing the odds. If you don't want to do ALL the work Dean, you could always pick your top 10 that will definitely be on the album and post all the other tracks allowing people on the forum to choose. But as we found with the artwork, it's a little hard to add up all the votes.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2003 : 08:14:30
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| Heh... thanks Ryan for the input. I think the idea of having one 'backup claim' is probably a good one and seems to sort of take all the concerns into account, though I'm curious to hear what others have to say on the topic. That will probably be the approach I take on it, though. Because even I was upset that certain people didn't complete songs I was really looking forward to or was interested in doing myself. But keep the input coming, maybe there's some dark side to this that I haven't thought of yet (granted I can think of a few drawbacks, but nothing too major in my mind). |
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 08/29/2003 : 13:21:06
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I think it would be a big mistake to democratize the process of choosing which cuts make the final album. For one thing, it will open up a GINORMOUS can of worms regarding snitty posts and hurt feelings among board members.
Also, I think the biggest part of the fun of the first one was waiting with baited breath to see what made the cut and what they all sounded like. I would hate to see that ruined by essentially giving everyone a way-in-advance preview of what the whole thing would sound like.
Talk about eliminating excitement for the big release...
I agree in theory with the backup claim idea. Things like this are fraught with difficulties, but all we can do is try to come up with a smooth-running system of rules and deadlines and hope for the best.
Nice idea, Ryan.
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder |
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