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Doryphore
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Belgium
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 Posted - 08/25/2003 : 05:23:52
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| As your regular Frank Black freak I love the elementary recording techniques on the Catholics records very much, especially on Dog in the Sand and Black Letter Days. But what disturbs me a bit lately, while listening to these records, are the keyboard piano-imitations. They are ok, but for me it just doesn't fit in the analogue, "honest" way of playing and recording. The keyboards sound just a bit too digital for my tastes. Wouldn't a real piano sound a lot better? Maybe the recording budget doesn't allow one? Or would Mr. Black and his Catholics really prefer the Casio (??) sound? What's your opinion on this? |
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crippe
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Sweden
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Posted - 08/25/2003 : 06:29:48
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| On SMYT Iīm quite sure that they use a real piano (you know, made of wood and all). Iīm not sure if they used a real piano on DITS, I used to think so. But a direct reply to your topic would be - of course a real piano sounds better than a syntheziser. But one has to remember that real pianos are HEAVY to drag around, thatīs probobly why they use a Korg (?) syntheziser when playing live. But the fake piano sound from a syntheziser doesīnt have to sound crappy, they get better and more true to the original sound (Yamaha makes some decent ones I think). But with the use of different old studio gear a mid-ranged fake piano can sound pretty good. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2003 : 07:25:16
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| Yeah, the new album is definitely a real piano. The others were recorded using, assumedly, EDF's Korg keyboard, assumedly for the reasons that crippe has said. And yeah, if they're going for authentic piano sound, then definitely nothing beats a real piano. But there are plenty of songs where they use 'bright' pianos or even electric sounding ones on purpose because it fits the song better, so you can't hold that against them. |
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2003 : 09:47:50
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yah that The Grand program by Steinberg is quite amazing in its piano recreation. i mean im sure you can tell if you compare them directly, but it sounds quite good enough for me and my amatuer recordings
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2003 : 10:05:49
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| The Grand? Que? Sounds like something I'd like to look into... |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 08/25/2003 : 11:21:53
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| Aye, the Grand is pretty cool...send me a note Dean. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2003 : 12:11:57
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| Done as of tonight sometime. Thanks. |
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2003 : 15:38:56
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| I'm with you Doryphore, the piano would sound a lot better, and I'm glad they use it on the new album. I hate the sound of keyboards and I also hate playing keyboards as opposed to piano. The synthesizer stuff can be done tastefully, but if you're just doing the piano sound, it's always best to use a real piano. |
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =
USA
254 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2003 : 19:36:06
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| Yeah I'm pretty sure it's real piano on Show Me Your Tears, but I also love the sound from that Wurlitzer (or such) electric piano on DITS (I've Seen Your Picture, The Swimmer, Dog in the Sand) |
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Doryphore
- FB Fan -
Belgium
111 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2003 : 00:48:04
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| Yeah, in some songs (like the mentioned) I like the keyboard a lot, when it has its own, distinguished sound. The Wurlitzer is great. I'm just talking about the piano imitation, that is just too close to the real piano sound (but not close enough) to have its own genuine vibe, you know? |
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deadlydoctor
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USA
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Posted - 09/05/2003 : 07:30:56
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Originally posted by carsonwerner
but I also love the sound from that Wurlitzer (or such) electric piano on DITS (I've Seen Your Picture, The Swimmer, Dog in the Sand)
There are few things more groovy than the sweet sounds of a 1950s Wurlitzer electric piano. You can't get much more vintage, as far as electronic keyboards are concerned.
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