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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 08/20/2003 :  14:23:40  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Not to stroke my own horse, but I've been heavy into the internet for quite a few years, before the whole major internet boom in the last few years of the 1990s. Like every other hardcore elitest, I was a little jaded over the fact that this little underground was going mainstream. The kids who would call me a nerd for being online so much were now just as guilty. Through the years, I've been impressed by the variety of brilliant technologies that have emerged (internet gaming, massively multiplayer online roleplaying games, DivX, Napster), but as of late, I think the one that takes the cake would have to be P2P technology. Sure, it's great that you can go online and find that song or video you were looking for in minutes, but I'm talking about the underlying technology of P2P, the brains of the operation.

The aspect that I'm most impressed by is the whole P2P networking and bandwith sharing. You can see various iterations in programs such as Kazaa, eDonkey, Peercast, and BitTorrent. Limited bandwith, which was once a great hurdle, is almost non-existant with this technology in place. Everyday users' upstream is something that's barely used to its full capacity. Sure, you need it to send a packet, a request, an email, but that's a few bits and bytes. Most people have 128kbps which only a fraction is actually used. With these P2P technologies, it's used to benefit the community in which you partake.

I recently discovered Peercast (www.peercast.org) and I was blown a way at the possibilities it provides. Simply put, you have a streaming internet channel, be it music or video. You're broadcasting to listeners, but each listener is also broadcasting to everybody else. Shared bandwith...this allows broadcasters to push the quality higher without worrying about their bandwidth; in essence, the channel could have 30 listeners, but is only broadcasting its signal to one listener. One channel I've been WATCHING (yes, internet TV) has been broadcasting Family Guy episodes. Sure, it's not even close to TV quality, but it is very viewable and very enjoyable. Just the fact that someone can set up their own internet TV station with simple a cable modem just blows me away.

These technologies are still pretty early in their development. I would expect they'll be pretty polished and tuned within the next year or two. The results are bound to be simply amazing. I can see the RIAA and MPAA quivering in their boots in fear of these technologies. An every day Joe with a cable modem can have his own TV station, broadcasting his favorite shows. You don't like what he's streaming? I'm sure you can find something on Kazaa to your liking. See where this is going? Freedom in entertainment. Embrace it: this is your future.

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Edited by - El Barto on 08/20/2003 14:24:06

glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2003 :  01:02:31  Show Profile
Hey El Barto,
Are you by chance interested in 3D animation or computer art of any sort..? I just started working in Cinema 4D last semester at school; they used that program to make "Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within." (While the plot sucked, the 3D was amazing.) I don't know what software they used to make "The Animatrix" or Golem from "The Two Towers" but I know that Cinema's a sort of "jumping off" point into that world of computer animation. I guess it's the most user-friendly of the rendering programs available. And, I got it from KaZaa. P2P fucking RULZ!!!



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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 08/21/2003 :  02:56:46  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2003 :  07:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Jim, what you're talking about is called multicasting, which has actually been around for a while though it's not perfected and they continue trying different methods.

Peer-to-peer has been around for a very long time and is what most of us used to download SMYT. The two are quite different.

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2003 :  11:29:29  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
glacial: see my posts here (http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2487&whichpage=2) for my feelings on CGI :)

Yeah, peer to peer is an interchangeable phrase that both multicasting software and p2p software use. At the heart of the multicasting is Gnutella, which is the protocol most of these programs are based off of. The peer to peer in SoulSeek is obviously different from Kazaa, which downloads from multiple sources at once, and that's the technology that is brilliant.

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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2003 :  19:49:02  Show Profile
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Originally posted by El Barto

glacial: see my posts here (http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2487&whichpage=2) for my feelings on CGI :)

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Wow. Just chalk it up to asking the wrong person the wrong thing.

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 08/21/2003 :  19:54:22  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Hehe ;) Seriously though...it has its place, but I think it's being completely abused. Too much of something is not a good thing just because it's new.

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