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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  09:47:00  Show Profile
After reading lots of the posts I missed I feel compelled to quote Rodney King. What's the deal? There's assertive and then there are assholes.

ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  09:49:04  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
WORD
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  09:54:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Yeah. Luckily the ratio is fairly decent on the forum, but there are definitely parties from both groups.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
573 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  10:13:20  Show Profile
i think this forum is better that most, frank black fans seem to keep a civilised tounge in their head. the sonic youth forum can be a scary place to be.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  13:13:33  Show Profile

"Rodney's in the hizzouse, yo."
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  16:26:03  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Yes, Swimmer and Ebb Vicious should censor theirselves a bit.
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ingersoll
- FB Fan -

USA
85 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  16:33:22  Show Profile
the absolute worst are the forums over at hole.com. there are like thousands of people and all of them are assholes.

Divine: "Kill everyone now! Condone first-degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat shit! Flith is my politics, filth is my life! Take whatever you like!"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2003 :  17:05:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

Yes, Swimmer and Ebb Vicious should censor theirselves a bit.



Yes! Self-censorship is much better than free speech. If Rodney King had known when to shut up, maybe the pigs wouldn't have beat him within an inch of his life.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  08:39:53  Show Profile
Whoa BLT, thems fightin words.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  08:51:22  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

Yes, Swimmer and Ebb Vicious should censor theirselves a bit.



Yes! Self-censorship is much better than free speech. If Rodney King had known when to shut up, maybe the pigs wouldn't have beat him within an inch of his life.



I suppose there's a time and a place for everything, and that was the point Chris was making, as opposed to nobody should be allowed to say anything. If you'll note, lots of people post lots of stupid stuff on this forum, probably myself included, but it is almost never deleted by the powers that be. That's free speech.

Freedom of speech doesn't preclude an inner monologue, however, nor good sense. Hence laws against promoting racism/hate crimes (which are sometimes taken too far, but that's a separate topic). It doesn't preclude the other person's rights of free speech. And it isn't license to become a total asshole and slam everyone and everything you don't agree with in the most rude manner possible because it gives you some sense of self-satisfaction to do so and further convinces you of your own perfections and elitist fantasies.

So don't play that card... that's not the issue.

NB I use the term 'you' figuratively, and not referring specifically or exclusively to BLT.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  09:01:05  Show Profile
Now people have turned my peace page into a free speech argument. Arrrgghhh!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  09:04:02  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I do it all for you. :)
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  09:04:34  Show Profile
Shut up Carolyn.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  09:52:05  Show Profile
thanks dean,
and thats miss anna to you mike.
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  10:45:27  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

Yes, Swimmer and Ebb Vicious should censor theirselves a bit.



Care to elaborate. I can understand Ebb, he's vicious, but pray tell, what do I need censoring for?

Or are you upset over the whole Axel debacle?

Step right up....
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  11:01:09  Show Profile
Yeah some people are nasty...

Sometimes even me...

Edited by - St. Francis on 08/06/2003 12:21:04
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franktaper
- FB Fan -

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  14:07:39  Show Profile
-Maybe- there should be a prerequisite to being able to say "Can't we all just get along?!?" -Maybe- it should be that you have to drive around on the freeway, while on crank(!), endangering other peoples lives.
Just a suggestion...
They got a ranch they call, Number 51!


Edited by - franktaper on 08/06/2003 14:49:22
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  15:21:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

So don't play that card... that's not the issue.



The only card I was attempting to play was the irony/sarcasm card. Frankly, I don't give a crap about Rodney King or the cops who beat him up. Neither are worth standing up for.

It's not that I particularly enjoy reading the posts of people like Ebb, but sometimes they're worth a chuckle. There will inevitably be people like him in a discussion group, so why resist?
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  16:19:23  Show Profile
Think all oppinion and ideas are good on the site and regardless of the issues associated with these oppinions they are nonetheless important. Way back I use to get offended by Mirv and some of his rants but after a while some of the humour was rather good.

Also dissimulting US foreign policy surrounded by Canadians gets boring after a while... I am kidding.

Edited by - St. Francis on 08/06/2003 16:39:35
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2003 :  22:52:24  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =

394 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  01:51:04  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



I agree. But should we care? If posters have an absolute need to look dumb, i think most forum members will consider their posts irrellevant after a while.
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =

USA
299 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  05:04:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



On the ohter hand, my answer is, Welcome to the Internet! It's fair to assume that on any board are the standard characters: the troller, the lurker, the asshole, the peacekeeper, the old denizen, etc. This place ain't no different.

"Sacred cows make the best burgers!"
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  06:54:06  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by blackpurse

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



On the ohter hand, my answer is, Welcome to the Internet! It's fair to assume that on any board are the standard characters: the troller, the lurker, the asshole, the peacekeeper, the old denizen, etc. This place ain't no different.

"Sacred cows make the best burgers!"




You forgot the scarecrow and the tin man.
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  06:55:01  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by the swimmer

quote:
Originally posted by blackpurse

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



On the ohter hand, my answer is, Welcome to the Internet! It's fair to assume that on any board are the standard characters: the troller, the lurker, the asshole, the peacekeeper, the old denizen, etc. This place ain't no different.

"Sacred cows make the best burgers!"




You forgot the scarecrow and the tin man.



And the crouching tiger and hidden dragon.
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  07:08:11  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
If only this Forum could get along as well as the Pixies did...

www.mp3.com/clootie
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  07:20:16  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ivandivel

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



I agree. But should we care? If posters have an absolute need to look dumb, i think most forum members will consider their posts irrellevant after a while.



That is true, there are already certain people whose posts I don't bother reading for one reason or another.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  07:25:50  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by blackpurse

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I suppose, but I feel bad for the people (especially when they're new) who are the target of these attacks. Doesn't really look good for the rest of us, either.



On the ohter hand, my answer is, Welcome to the Internet! It's fair to assume that on any board are the standard characters: the troller, the lurker, the asshole, the peacekeeper, the old denizen, etc. This place ain't no different.



Yeah, nevermind the Internet, that's reality I suppose, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. A person just expects a little more from supposedly intelligent people who must have some degree of intellect to appreciate FB's music and genius. Or, that said, more from a group of adults and teenagers to at least respond in an adult way. I suppose we could be resigned to mediocrity...
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  11:58:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Or, that said, more from a group of adults and teenagers to at least respond in an adult way.


Part of which is knowing when to let shit roll off your back. :o)
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  12:41:15  Show Profile
Hey I don't think I want any shit rolling off my back.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2003 :  13:55:06  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Sounds kind of gross...
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2003 :  12:15:43  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
I think i saw that in a video once.
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2003 :  12:54:01  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by blackpurse


It's fair to assume that on any board are the standard characters: the troller, the lurker, the asshole, the peacekeeper, the old denizen, etc. This place ain't no different.



i realize that d3niz3n probably has dibs on it, but can i be the "old denizen"?

TBG
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