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water master man
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Finland
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Posted - 10/09/2002 :  03:27:12  Show Profile
I think this is Franks best post-pixies song. Everything works. Great melody and some of his best lyrics ever. Arrangement is also stunning,notably Feldmans piano, which gaves more depth to this song. So why doesn´t Frank play St. Francis more frequently with the Catholics?

"finally through the roof"

mattkendall
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USA
52 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  08:16:21  Show Profile  Visit mattkendall's Homepage
Personally, I've got to say "Dog In The Sand" is and probably will be Frank Black's best. Every song is ridiculously beautiful, the album is cohesive (songs flow well into each other)...everything about it is just "on".


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SSMT
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  10:43:10  Show Profile  Visit SSMT's Homepage
The main reason I like this song is because it shows off Frank's keen sense of local history in California yet again. The whole story behind the St. Francis disaster is actually very interesting and worth reading about if you get the chance.

John

Satan Stole My Teddybear
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 10/09/2002 :  12:01:13  Show Profile
speaking of which, do you think the cover photo for DITS is taken at the St. Francis dam site? that's what i was thinking..
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mattkendall
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USA
52 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  12:31:07  Show Profile  Visit mattkendall's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by SSMT

The main reason I like this song is because it shows off Frank's keen sense of local history in California yet again. The whole story behind the St. Francis disaster is actually very interesting and worth reading about if you get the chance.



As a history buff, I do find the sometimes subtle, sometimes overt lyrical historical allusions as part of the appeal of Frank Black. Of course, local California history is also mentioned in DITS regarding "Llano Del Rio". Gilded-Progressive Age of American history is my favorite topic and both song subjects aren't very far removed from that era.

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harris
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39 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  13:33:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by floop

speaking of which, do you think the cover photo for DITS is taken at the St. Francis dam site? that's what i was thinking..

nope.
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holzgrafe
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USA
75 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  14:06:52  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by harris

quote:
Originally posted by floop

speaking of which, do you think the cover photo for DITS is taken at the St. Francis dam site? that's what i was thinking..

nope.



Was it taken at an old bathworks site in the San Francisco Bay Area, perhaps during the sessions that produced what we call SSMVGD?

Mel
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  14:40:07  Show Profile
that's a good therory Mel..

yeah "harris", are we going to play a guessing game?

it was taken in California right? (we'll narrow it down)
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  14:54:21  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage
l.a. river?

spem in alium
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  16:04:19  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage
the serengeti?

arg...

1c
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holzgrafe
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USA
75 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2002 :  16:10:58  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by floop

that's a good therory Mel..



Actually I got it from something I read along those lines, or at least think I did. On one of the Yahoo boards, if memory doesn't deceive. Thanks tho. - Mel
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2002 :  08:29:08  Show Profile
I had read about the St. Francis Dam before "Dog in the Sand" came out, but it was FB's song that inspired me to go take a look at it. More info on it here: http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/stfrancis.htm

BTW, the cover of DITS is definitely at the old Sutro Baths in SF.

-Brian
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Mickey
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USA
207 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2002 :  12:34:08  Show Profile  Visit Mickey's Homepage
"Was it taken at an old bathworks site in the San Francisco Bay Area, perhaps during the sessions that produced what we call SSMVGD?

Mel"


It was shot in San Francisco for sure. I've been to the spot several times.

Doesn't it say that in the linear notes? From some reason I recall it saying that.

-Mickey
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2002 :  09:22:44  Show Profile
Back to the original point of this post...it's by far my favorite FB song as well, and his best, too. I have NEVER heard it played live, and it kills me! I've heard/read somewhere (probably back on the Plain) that he has trouble remembering the lyrics. I would personally volunteer to flip cue cards for our man Frank if he ever decided to play SFDD. What a song!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/07/2002 :  10:35:17  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/hs2802.htm

(thanks BLT)

This was used as the art for the single, or not?

Speaking about singles, I can't understand that Frank doesn't play this one live. For some odd reason, I think it should be in his reportoire for the same reason as why they made it a single:

It's brilliant!

Yop
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Doryphore
- FB Fan -

Belgium
111 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2002 :  00:22:48  Show Profile
Maybe this song is a little too intimate for a concert with audience and all...
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  15:01:31  Show Profile
You have to love an artist that teaches you something. I looked up the St. Francis Dam disaster and was surprised to leaen all that I did. Amazing.

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

I bid a good-day to you sir!
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Chroneos
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USA
198 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2002 :  11:56:38  Show Profile  Visit Chroneos's Homepage
I've read that he doesn't perform it live because he doesn't think he can remember all of the lyrics. (source: http://members.cox.net/fbsi/index.html)
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