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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
914 Posts |
 Posted - 04/21/2003 : 23:57:40
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| I was wondering how many other of you out there also like franks post-Pixies stuff more than Pixies stuff... |
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 01:20:19
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L. Barlow
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
64 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 05:42:31
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as you probably have noticed most of my posts are in the pixies forum. and i still dont own all the catholic albums. and i still dont know all their names........oops!
lets just say that it depends on the mood. if i want something i can sing along to and then some it would be the pixies. but the catholics are a more talented band and frank is no longer young and dumb....they make rock music dude! lets just say the pixies are a cup of coffee and the catholics are a good nights sleep. what i mean is the pixies give an instant burst of energy etc but a good nights sleep, although it takes longer gives you a whole day!
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Perhaps
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 04/22/2003 : 06:46:17
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if FB(solo) is 5, then the Pixies are 6, and if....then FB&C are 7.
I am a purist, and I was in college during the Pixies, but the way those oldies sound when played by FB&C (e.g., current tour) is something different. More refined, streamlined, but still kick-your-ass.
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 08:24:58
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I agree.
Listening to the Pixies sometimes is like looking at high school pictures of myself. I was young and dumb.
I much prefer to live in the present. (old and dumb)
"Winter blows through my coat"
the what four http://www.mp3.com/phelan |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 08:38:58
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the pixies are great for what they are
the catholics are great for what they are
for me, its a mood thing
-brian
as breathing flows my mind secedes... |
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 12:30:33
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| I hardly ever listen to the pixies anymore. Really the Catholics are like a completely different band, and I like to think of them as if they have nothing to do with the Pixies at all. The Pixies are an incredible band and my 2nd favorite next to the Catholics, and I don't know if it is that the Catholics are more mature sounding or just the fact that the pixies are finished and there are no new songs from them, but I enjoy listening to the Catholics a lot more |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 12:57:48
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I listened to Frank Black before I ever heard the Pixies. Then I'm like "Oh... Frank Black had another band? The Pixies you say?"
So, I have to say I listen to Frank Black way more, but i love the pixies and frank's solo career about the same. Though, well, maybe I like frank black a little more.
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Edited by - ProverbialCereal on 04/22/2003 12:58:30 |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 13:41:28
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I'm gonna get mathematical/logical...
FB & c's <==== Pixies
To be a fan of Frank Black and the catholics, it is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for you to like the Pixies. In other words, if you're a Frank fan, you're definitely a Pixies fan. But not all Pixies fans are FB fans. This theory explains why FB has fewer fans.
This may still be disproven, but I have yet to meet someone who defies the laws of logic!
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 14:15:25
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Originally posted by theonecontender
I'm gonna get mathematical/logical...
FB & c's <==== Pixies
To be a fan of Frank Black and the catholics, it is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for you to like the Pixies. In other words, if you're a Frank fan, you're definitely a Pixies fan. But not all Pixies fans are FB fans. This theory explains why FB has fewer fans.
This may still be disproven, but I have yet to meet someone who defies the laws of logic!
1c on math
Next time maybe you can post a Venn diagram for your theory.  |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 14:50:58
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venn diagram haha
they suck
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 16:12:41
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| there is a place for the Pixies and a place for Frank Black & the Catholics. Though the two are intrinsically linked for obvious reasons, they each suit a different mood/vibe in my opinion. |
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =
USA
254 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 18:21:55
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| I'm certainly a bigger fan of FB and FB&theC's than the Pixies, but if it weren't for the Pixies I never would have heard the man, although thats not to say I don't like the Pixies. |
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paintmeister
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2003 : 20:26:40
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My obsession is still young. I discovered the Pixies last year sometime. Then later on I found out about Frank Black. I really enjoyed FB and TOTY. Now I am on to FB&C. I still lack FB&C self-titled and Oddballs. I am now nervously awaiting September....
Need I say more? |
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mergzez7
- FB Fan -
France
166 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 03:00:09
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Joe Strummer used to say "it's the chemical mixture of the four people that makes a band work." Mr Black says there was nothing of that kind in the Pixies and yet they became a cornerstone of rock music. At that time Black was young and even slim. The Catholics are a normal evolution. The older musicians get, the smoother they music is (is that gramatically correct?). On the records at least, because like most people here I've seen the Catholics on stage, two years ago and the show was more than 3-hour long, the pogo more violent than a Deftones gig pogo and the post-gig state of mind everlasting (which doesn't mean the Catholics don't need to come back to France soon). If I had been born 5 years earlier I might have been able to see the pixies on stage, I assume it would have been the same. What i'm trying to say is that the thread between the two is Frank Black and you people know how big that thread is.
... I'm not sure this intervention of mine makes any sense... Anyway. :/
zez |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 08:57:43
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by theonecontender
I'm gonna get mathematical/logical...
FB & c's <==== Pixies
To be a fan of Frank Black and the catholics, it is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for you to like the Pixies. In other words, if you're a Frank fan, you're definitely a Pixies fan. But not all Pixies fans are FB fans. This theory explains why FB has fewer fans.
This may still be disproven, but I have yet to meet someone who defies the laws of logic!
1c on math
Next time maybe you can post a Venn diagram for your theory.
Humans=Pixies
Designers=FB & c's
uhhh... yeah. terrible. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 09:11:22
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| Hilarious! i can't believe you actually posted a Venn diagram...hahaha |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 09:48:42
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Very funny.
I definetly prefer FB and the boys to the Pixies, although I love them both. I did discover Frank's solo stuff first though, (in the Cult of Ray days) so maybe it is b/c of that. The solo stuff just seems more well-rounded to me, and I prefer the song writing (more mature, older, what have you). But the energy of the Pixies is also v. hard to resist. ANYWAY...just my humble opinion. |
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 09:57:06
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Originally posted by ramona
Very funny.
The solo stuff just seems more well-rounded to me, and I prefer the song writing (more mature, older, what have you). But the energy of the Pixies is also v. hard to resist. ANYWAY...just my humble opinion.
I was a Pixies fan first (picked up Doolittle on my own back in the early 90s or whatever) but I prefer the FB&Cs stuff, I think for the same reasons. I feel like I've grown older with them. I like listening to the Pixies for the same reasons I like telling stories about my youth. There were there at the time in my life when they were relevant to me, and FB&C's are here at at time in my life when they are relevant to me now. <= or >=, it's all a matter of perspective. |
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parker_airspace
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 11:35:10
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Pixies = amazing, just amazing
Frank Black (solo) = Mind Blowing
Frank Black & Catholics = Mature & Beautiful
It almost seems like stages in life!
I will say however that I hate this rift between some pixies fans & frank black/catholics. Why?
Asides from Kim Deal he seems to have continuous musical connections with the rest, and the pixie's material is 99.9% his anyhow....
Live and let live i say....as a fb fan u have to like the pixies really, its earlier fb writing and very inspiring.....perhaps the die hard "hate fb solo stuff" are the very people frank is trying to weed out from the fanbase
- was smashed head on by a giant truck :( - Chris |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 14:04:42
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Originally posted by mergzez7
At that time Black was young and even slim...
chuck was actually kinda good lookin, same with joe...even with the big forehead...
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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mergzez7
- FB Fan -
France
166 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 15:34:08
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Take it easy I love fat men they're much more comfortable.
zez |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 19:33:20
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| good question. for me it's kind of like a good ping pong match. back and forth between fb and the pixies. over the last 7 years i give the edge to frank. the first pixies song i heard was wave of mutilation about 11 years ago. a couple of weeks later i saw the los angeles video. so i went and bought frank's first album and pixies surfer rosa on the same day. i liked fb but i loved surfer rosa. so i went out and got all the other pixies cd's and listened to em non stop. i put fb to the side. i revisted him once teenager of the year came out. once i listened to toty i became completely addicted. like other people have said, frank really grows on you. kind of like a fine scotch. takes a while to get used too, but then you're totally hooked and everything else isn't quite as enjoyable. for me the best thing about frank is that he keeps doing something different. it usually takes a few weeks to really appreciate his new albums. |
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
914 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 21:37:55
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Originally posted by theonecontender
In other words, if you're a Frank fan, you're definitely a Pixies fan. But not all Pixies fans are FB fans. This theory explains why FB has fewer fans.
ah but there are those that are into fb because they think his new stuff is soft, i think those are the pixies fans that only like the band because they are (were?) "different/alternative" and kurt kobain likes them so they should like them too......bums. |
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
914 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 21:39:08
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Originally posted by fumanbru
like other people have said, frank really grows on you. kind of like a fine scotch. takes a while to get used too, but then you're totally hooked and everything else isn't quite as enjoyable.
totally dude, thats why his sales arent high enough, its hard to force people to listen to it over and over since its not instantly great for the non-converted, but once you get into it...its just great |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2003 : 22:46:09
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Anything with substance or depth cannot be judged by a surface analysis; the layers must be exposed one at a time so that the true complexity can be appreciated.
So the stuff on the radio can be catchy and likeable right away on a superficial level, but once you get past that precursory listen and hear it several times, the lack of substance becomes readily apparent and frustrating. Which is not to say that nothing good will be enjoyed on the first listen, just that it won't be enjoyed as much until the subtler elements make their appearance. And that's what I have to say about that. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2003 : 05:53:27
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Yeah, if people buy a record for a song on the radio, then after 2 years chances are the disc will be collecting dust.
A lot of people just have a problem listening to a band/musician after his/her first 3 albums if those first 3 happen to be groundbreaking. It's not just limited to Frank. I do think it is more severe with Frank though, as a lot of people have tried his solo career and the second they don't get the instant hyperkinetic Pixis rush, they write it off. Just read whenever his name comes up on a non-FB message board. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2003 : 10:36:48
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| ... two years is probably generous, I give the CD maybe 2 weeks of repeated play followed by garage sale/coaster/dust collector. Of course, it depends... |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2003 : 14:31:37
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and thats why i dont enjoy listenin to the radio. i wish i had more fb rekkids, if anyone wants to give me presents thats a good idea! i've got no money, ya see.
if you say anything mean about kim, i'll kick ya in the shins! |
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