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Bedbug Posted - 12/03/2018 : 09:19:16
This has probably been done several times but I don't remember seeing it.

I guess I'll host since I'm the one putting it out there. Sorry if it's annoying.

Pilgrim
Surfer
Doolittle
Bossanova
Trompe
B-Sides
FB Self-Titled
TOTY
Cult of Ray
Oddballs
Catholics Self-Titled
Pistolero
Dog in the Sand
Black Letter Days
Devil's Workshop
Show Me Your Tears
Sunday Sunny...
Honeycomb
FMRM
Christmass
Bluefinger
SVN Fingers
Golem
NSE
Abbabubba
Paley & Francis
Indie Cindy
Head Carrier

First, what am I forgetting? I'm sure I missed something.
Second, sorry if they are not in exact chronological order, doing it on my lunch break,
Third, not counting best of or live albums, unless everyone thinks we should. That means no Frank Black Francis and no 93-03 and no Complete Catholics and no EP 1 EP 2 EP 3, etc. But we can add all of them in if you want since they are his albums and probably we all like some of those ones better than some of the ones on the list.

Let me know your thoughts.

Without the list changing, my first vote off would be Paley and Francis. I don't mind it but I really never listen to anything from it.
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two reelers Posted - 06/21/2019 : 09:04:55
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

Eeh, I only have one thing to say: TLM is of course the best album in that entire list.

And actually a second thing: Lyle Workman is underrated. Heavily underrated. His style fits BFB songwriting as good as Mr. Santiago does. COR is another forgotten jewel.





I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



Those who know, know, those who don't, don't.



Seriously, I also think COR has the best / most consistent sound of all of his records. At the time of release, he stated that they wanted to sound the album like The Who's "Live at Leeds". So very recently I listened into this for the first time, and indeed, the similarity in sound is obvious. I also find this coomment interesting since I was always under the impression hat FBF never cared at all about the sound and recording, and left it all to the producer.
COR is also so strange - it mostly has these conventional rock song structures, even a ballad. But it starts off with The Marsist, which is the archetypical FBF-from-another-universe song. But then it switches immediately in 70ies punk rock style and for most part stays there (of course, just the style - below the surface the songs are so much more).
Talking about Lyle Workman, the next record (FB&TC self titled) is also pure genious.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
Bedbug Posted - 06/20/2019 : 09:14:04
Interesting answers everybody
Fitzy Posted - 06/19/2019 : 13:01:41
Late to this, but what the hell:

What would your final showdown have been?
Surfer vs Bossanova

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?
Not enough name calling or speculations about Kim Deal rigging this whole gig

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?
I know people seemed happy to see it go, but The Golem is really that good

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?
Show Me Your Tears. I don't understand the love for it. It has Nadine and Everything is new, but...

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Pod would have been in the top ten

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Second

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?
Top eight. But I'm a pessimist, so fingers crossed
Bedbug Posted - 06/19/2019 : 07:53:29
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

Eeh, I only have one thing to say: TLM is of course the best album in that entire list.

And actually a second thing: Lyle Workman is underrated. Heavily underrated. His style fits BFB songwriting as good as Mr. Santiago does. COR is another forgotten jewel.





I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



Those who know, know, those who don't, don't.
danjersey Posted - 06/17/2019 : 15:35:05
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers



And actually a second thing: Lyle Workman is underrated. Heavily underrated. His style fits BFB songwriting as good as Mr. Santiago does. COR is another forgotten jewel.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



Agreed
two reelers Posted - 06/16/2019 : 17:41:43
Eeh, I only have one thing to say: TLM is of course the best album in that entire list.

And actually a second thing: Lyle Workman is underrated. Heavily underrated. His style fits BFB songwriting as good as Mr. Santiago does. COR is another forgotten jewel.





I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
johnnyribcage Posted - 06/16/2019 : 10:08:44
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

I was considering doing a BF song survivor going from Bluefinger up to the new Pixies stuff. But that's quite a number of songs so would need to work out logistics first.


If it wouldnít be a logistical nightmare to accomplish on an old school forum like this we could randomly weed them and have a bracket tourney, like March madness.


I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings.
The Maharal Posted - 06/16/2019 : 08:48:10
I was considering doing a BF song survivor going from Bluefinger up to the new Pixies stuff. But that's quite a number of songs so would need to work out logistics first.
stuczuba Posted - 06/16/2019 : 08:18:47
quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Maybe a band member survivor?
Including Shattuck, Workman, Carter, Ding, etc

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SAVE PAZ!

Single survivor would be possible if it was physical releases only?
sdon Posted - 06/16/2019 : 07:06:39
Maybe a band member survivor?
Including Shattuck, Workman, Carter, Ding, etc

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johnnyribcage Posted - 06/16/2019 : 06:52:14
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

We need another game to fill the next 2-3 months!



Has there been a song survivor? Certainly couldnít be ALL song, probably an era. Unless you wanted it to last until 2027 or so.


I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings.
stuczuba Posted - 06/16/2019 : 02:04:38
We need another game to fill the next 2-3 months!
Bedbug Posted - 06/15/2019 : 04:18:49
Great answers everybody!

I really enjoy reading these.

So interesting to read where people are expecting BTE to land. Let's hope we all underestimated it. We will have to check back in September.
Jamie Posted - 06/14/2019 : 21:42:05
What would your final showdown have been? - Surfer vs Trompe

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went? - sure. Trompe won, so.

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off? - I came in late, after it was voted off, but DITS would be my #3

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did? - Bossanova. I mean, it's great, but still my least favorite OG Pixies album

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked? - probably bottom 5

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked? - I'd have to think about it, but somewhere between 3rd and 6th.

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess? - middle?

Edit - it's probably obvious, but I took the 5th and 6th questions as where would I personally rank them.
Neptune Posted - 06/14/2019 : 14:28:54
What would your final showdown have been?

I guess Trompe vs Doolittle

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?

Yes. Except for the weeks there were ties

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?

Bluefinger

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?

none. Or maybe B-Sides

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

Ninth. After Bluefinger but before Dog In the Sand

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

First

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?

16th


Thanks for organizing!! What's next?
sdon Posted - 06/14/2019 : 11:14:11

What would your final showdown have been?
Same as picpic, Bossa and Trompe
I already said in this thread that I consider the 1.0 albums as a crescendo : CoP is great, but Surfer is better, Doolittle better than Surfer, etc.
So I cannot be happier with the final result (I include Sprite and Maharal :) )

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?
Not enough participants, but yeah, gave me a reason to visit before the new album hype

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?
Christmass, IC, CoP

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?
Golem

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Pod to me is close to Surfer Rosa

If your favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
I personally would have ranked the best albums by Modest Mouse, Mogwai, My Bloody Valentine, Sonic Youth, Pavement, Wedding Present... very high. But they wouldn't have survived long on this forum

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?
Wishing for Top10 too

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"Fucking up my devotion!"
The Maharal Posted - 06/14/2019 : 10:55:57
Dammit, got drunk and forgot to vote. Would have kept Trompe - amazing album and amazing memories of listening to it and falling in love. Incidentally, it's quite possible that Bossanova has better songs, or possibly more standout songs, but Trompe flows much much better. Go little record, go.
picpic Posted - 06/14/2019 : 07:25:01
quote:
What would your final showdown have been?

Bossa and Trompe !

quote:
Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?

Yes. I only voted near the end, and I'm astonished that my 2 all-time favorite Pixies records won. Wow.

quote:
Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?

Let the People Speak. Really, guys, listen to that record. Ignore the radio guy.

quote:
Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?

Whats BTE ? Oh ok. Well, maybe better than IC and HC, but probably not in the top 10.

quote:
Feel free to post any other follow up questions you have.

Anyone as happy as me to hear BF singing the word "flying saucer" on Graveyard Hill ?

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stuczuba Posted - 06/14/2019 : 06:33:25
What would your final showdown have been?
Probably should have been a Surfer vs Doolittle final - with a better voter turnout ;)

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?
Not enough arguments/knife fights.

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?
COP & IC should have gone further.

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?
Can't remember, Golem maybe?

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Splash should be top half of table - in with the Catholics somewhere.

If your favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
On this forum? First out!

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?
Top 10 would be an amazing result.
johnnyribcage Posted - 06/14/2019 : 06:15:41
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Follow up questions for those who feel like answering:

What would your final showdown have been?

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?

Feel free to post any other follow up questions you have.



Wellp, itís been a hell of a ride, thanks Bedbug for facilitating this thing.

Hereís my post-apocalypse survey answers:

1) hard to say, probably TOTY and Doolittle, with Doolittle FTW

2) yeah, good times!

3) hmm... probably FB&Cís

4) Bossanova ;) jk... probably Show Me Your Tears? I dunno, looking at the order itís not really all that surprising.

5) ... Iím not really a Breeders fan... donít hurt me!

6) yikes!!! Thatís a hell of a question. I donít think I have a ďfavorite album of all time.Ē I have probably 20-30 or so that I regard equally in different ways. Doolittle and TOTY are probably on that list. I guess if it put those up against some of my others, something like King Crimson Larks Tongues In Aspic or Starless and Bible Black (kind of like part 1 and part 2 to me of one big album), or The Beatles White Album, or Grateful Dead Europe Ď72 would maybe shake out above anything FBF related. Something like The Band The Band or Soundgarden Superunknown or Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire maybe a hair below?? Basically an impossible question for me - I canít pick ďaĒ favorite.
EDIT: I may have misunderstood your question. If any of the ones I mentioned would have been voted on by this forum, I doubt they would have went far. Iíd like to think so, but doubtful.

7) probably somewhere near Head Carrier, wherever that landed.


I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings.
Bedbug Posted - 06/14/2019 : 05:45:50
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Follow up questions for those who feel like answering:

What would your final showdown have been?

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?

Feel free to post any other follow up questions you have.



To answer my own questions:

What would your final showdown have been?
TLM versus TOTY (tie)

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?
No I am unhappy with the host

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?
Oddballs and Cult of Ray

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?
Show Me Your Tears

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Pod would have made survived the first 5 rounds or so.

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?
Ween The Pod would have ranked third after TOTY and TLM.

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?
Probably around 12th or 15th
Bedbug Posted - 06/14/2019 : 05:33:54
Follow up questions for those who feel like answering:

What would your final showdown have been?

Are you happy with the way Album Survivor went?

Which album hurt you the most to see voted off?

Which album do you wish got voted off way before it actually did?

If your favorite Breeders album had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

If you favorite non FBF related album of all time had been allowed to play, where would it have ranked?

Where do you think BTE might rank in this game if you just had to guess?

Feel free to post any other follow up questions you have.
Bedbug Posted - 06/14/2019 : 05:28:39
quote:
Originally posted by picpic

So the final result is both ?

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This kind of works out perfect for everybody. If you want to ignore Sprite's vote after the tally, then there is a tie, and you're not lying if you say "Bossanova won". If you want to acknowledge it, then Trompe wins. Everyobdy wins.


picpic Posted - 06/14/2019 : 04:52:02
So the final result is both ?

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BunsenH Posted - 06/14/2019 : 04:32:46
Not surprised. That die-hards love Trompe is widely known to other die-hards....
Sprite Posted - 06/14/2019 : 02:23:56
Ooops, am I too late? I vote to keep Trompe.
Bedbug Posted - 06/13/2019 : 23:27:17
Thanks for playing everybody

Gone

Paley and Francis
Let the People Speak
Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day
Snake Oil
Petit Fours
One More Road for the Hit
Abbabubba
Oddballs
NSE
Indie Cindy
Honeycomb
Christmass
Cult of Ray
B-Sides
Head Carrier
FMRM
Pistolero*
SVN Fingers*
Devil's Workshop
Golem
Frank Black and the Catholics Self Titled*
Black Letter Days*
Show Me Your Tears
Dog in the Sand*
Bluefinger*
Frank Black Self-Titled
Come on Pilgrim
Surfer Rosa
TOTY
Doolittle

Survivors:

Bossanova
Trompe Le Monde

picpic Posted - 06/13/2019 : 22:49:23
Whatever the outcome, it's great to see my all-time favourite Pixies albums on the podium.

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sdon Posted - 06/13/2019 : 20:28:58
Tied at 7-7 ?

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"Fucking up my devotion!"
jake3 Posted - 06/13/2019 : 11:41:47
Bossanova
stuczuba Posted - 06/13/2019 : 11:05:41
The Happening trumps Trompe, every time :)
pot Posted - 06/13/2019 : 10:19:21
Trompe
rivum Posted - 06/13/2019 : 10:05:52
bossanova can't lose this. I'm voting trompe.
Bedbug Posted - 06/12/2019 : 08:23:26
Update:

Bossanova - 6

Trompe Le Monde - 5
moonruler Posted - 06/12/2019 : 08:10:32
Listened to both back to back. Definitely felt Bossanova had a bit more to offer.

Voting for Trompe Le Monde.

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