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picpic Posted - 12/08/2017 : 01:43:03
So, let's compile the current rumors

- According to some interviews (often Paz), a new album is in the works
- Someone on this forum supposedly heard that the Rockfield studios in england have been booked in early 2018
- Charles said to some journalist last year that he'd like his next record to be produced by both Dalgery and Norton

As for the songs, nothing new on the BMI catalog, but there's still many unreleased "new" songs in the list. We already know some of them as official/unofficial demos/raw versions or short live snippets (Super Lecker), but not all of them.

ALICE PRIN	                14843364
BANKS OF THE DRAIN	        14843409
LAND OF GREEN	                14843908
LAST NIGHT THE WOLVES CAME OUT	14843911
O LITTLE CLOUD	                14844131
PICKEREL PICKER	                14844189
RATS ALIVE	                14844230
TRANQUILIZE ME	                14844508
DOWN IN TOULON	                20616476
I LIKE TO DRIVE	                20616992
SUPER LECKER	                20617959
AMERICAN RHYME	                22096890
BOGMAN	                        22096929
SCREW PINE	                22097414


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picpic Posted - 06/18/2018 : 23:06:07
Thanks for you input peter.

For my part i'm praying for a good old Norton mix with a normal, non-retarded mastering.

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Bedbug Posted - 06/18/2018 : 07:39:27
Can we draft an open letter from the forum to the band?
peter radiator Posted - 06/18/2018 : 07:23:42
Regardless of whether or not some may feel that falling back on working with Gil Norton was too much of an exercise in familiarity, there's no getting around the fact that IC sounds like a record produced with great care and intense effort by someone who TRULY understands the band.

On the other hand, while the HC songs are clearly honed and rehearsed in pre-production to extremely tight, almost road-tested condition and there is a certain naive charm about the way these songs are sonically represented on the album, the record itself sounds (unsurprisingly) like it was produced in a fairly perfunctory / haphazard fashion by a guy who's used to working with metal bands but who PERSONALLY digs the Pixies and was looking for a change of pace in his career arc.

To me, it was neither slick enough to give me the shiny sci-fi vibe I know the band is easily capable of (and which was evident in spades on IC), nor stir-fried enough to result in the kind of raw, unvarnished intensity of the pre-Norton records or the early radio broadcasts many understandably salivate over.

So, it was stuck in some sort of limbo which I feel kept many of the performances from achieving that certain timeless quality the band has often conjured (although I do find MUCH to like about HC).

Honestly, I would LOVE to hear a full-on Pixies album recorded live-in-the-studio (but to multi-track, to allow for plenty of mixing and effects options later) at the newly reopened Sound City, where the eponymous FB & The C's and Pistoleros LPs were cut.

Just think for a minute about hearing Dave's drums with the same sort of thundering, analog room sound as on Scott Boutier's kit on those records, the slash and burn of FBF and Joey's amps cranked up to 11, and that dry-ish, in-your-face vocal presence from both FBF and Paz.

It would be the sound of those particular people on their comfortable stage gear in a great, warm-sounding space, with plenty of dynamic range on fat, plastic tape.

Just my .02, for whatever that may be worth.


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"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
picpic Posted - 06/17/2018 : 22:51:45
I tried again listening to this Planet of Sound podcast (last episode "life after the Pixies"), and they briefly talked about 2.0 production issues.

Their opinion was: well, Indie Cindy has a poor post-production, but HC sounds better and is going in the right direction.

Well, I have the exact opposite opinion. If you listen carefully, you can tell Indie Cindy is mixed in a nice way (it is Gil Norton after all), then things went bad at the mastering stage for whatever reason. For HC however, I think it's obvious that the whole thing has a retarded production from start to finish because it was just made to sound that way. At least that's how I hear it.

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Bedbug Posted - 06/16/2018 : 20:18:01
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Originally posted by picpic

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Originally posted by Bedbug
So what do we do?


Listen to live versions or take zen lessons and just accept it.

And pray one day some un-mastered tracks will eventually find their way. They exist somewhere (and nobody cares but 5 geeks on an empty Frank Black message board).

Meanwhile, I listen to the 2nd Grand Duchy album. Sounds great.

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I agree with you on all of this.

Maybe someday un-mastered tracks will be all the rage and the band can cash in by selling them to you and me.

Yes, 2nd Grand Duchy album sounds great. I miss albums that sound great.
picpic Posted - 06/15/2018 : 07:09:10
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Originally posted by Bedbug

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Originally posted by rivum

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Originally posted by Bedbug

Was just listening to Pixies the Boston Broadcast 1987.
....


found it on youtube. great set! Is it downloadable in FLAC anywhere?


I guess thatís a question for Benji or picpic or someone smart like that.



Yeah. I have a lot of very rare Pixies and FB recordings

(all leeched from Benji)

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Bedbug Posted - 06/15/2018 : 04:58:45
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Originally posted by rivum

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Originally posted by Bedbug

Was just listening to Pixies the Boston Broadcast 1987.

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found it on youtube. great set! Is it downloadable in FLAC anywhere?



I guess thatís a question for Benji or picpic or someone smart like that.

Iíve just been listening on my browser.

That version of Break My Body is to die for.
rivum Posted - 06/13/2018 : 10:21:46
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

Was just listening to Pixies the Boston Broadcast 1987.

....



found it on youtube. great set! Is it downloadable in FLAC anywhere?
picpic Posted - 06/12/2018 : 09:00:48
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
So what do we do?


Listen to live versions or take zen lessons and just accept it.

And pray one day some un-mastered tracks will eventually find their way. They exist somewhere (and nobody cares but 5 geeks on an empty Frank Black message board).

Meanwhile, I listen to the 2nd Grand Duchy album. Sounds great.

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Bedbug Posted - 06/12/2018 : 02:48:41
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Originally posted by picpic

I think we all agree on that.

Sadly, that's not the way you sell records nowadays.

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So what do we do?
picpic Posted - 06/11/2018 : 21:00:48
I think we all agree on that.

Sadly, that's not the way you sell records nowadays.

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Bedbug Posted - 06/11/2018 : 08:21:18
I agree, QuaBear, that the energy is not re-capture-able. As we've said on other threads, most fans today are probably fans because of what was done during 1.0 not 2.0.

Having said that, I think FB and the team are doing an amazing job with the 2.0 live performances. And the songs on the two albums are, for the most part, cool.

It's the production of the forthcoming album that I'm hoping will be different. I'm not expecting the energy, vocals, instruments, or anything else to sound like the Boston Broadcast performance or like Surfer Rosa. But there is a way to make the new album a better listen than IC and HC on the studio side. That's what I'm hoping for.

Even if he's going to play Violet on the new album, it should sound like he's playing Violet in my bedroom, not behind a wall of muff.
QuaBear Posted - 06/11/2018 : 05:15:54
Yeh Bedbug...this is a superb performance...I don't know if the Pixies can ever capture that type of urgency anymore...just listening to that, I remember why I fell in love with the Pixies in the first place...there's just a sense of incredible fun in the Pixies
Bedbug Posted - 06/11/2018 : 05:02:12
Was just listening to Pixies the Boston Broadcast 1987.

If they could somehow have some kind of album that could sound something like this it would be beyond anyoneís expectations.

And Iím just talking about the production, I get that itís 30 years later and vocal chords and energy levels have changed.

But this is the best thing youíll ever hear, and itís super stripped down / basic sounding.

I canít believe itís only got like 40K views on YouTube.

Itís got the best Down To the Well ever, and how about that Subbacultcha / D=RxT mashup.

But again my point is the production, the sound.

Pray for the Pixies. We donít need Compressd Pixies.
picpic Posted - 06/09/2018 : 10:03:38
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Originally posted by The Maharal

I never even heard of this podcast. Was it discussed here before?

yes briefly in another thread i think.

I tried to listen to the second episode... I don't think I'll go to the next one. Lame jokes and one of the hosts burping repeatedely was so irritating. And no real interesting trivia that wasn't in the usual Pixies books. I think I'll pass for now.

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picpic Posted - 06/08/2018 : 12:57:54
https://www.instagram.com/charlesmkthompson/

he seems to often change his name (or create new accounts). Same for Paz ? her IG channel "Fierylimbs" looks down.

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The Maharal Posted - 06/08/2018 : 12:31:30
I never even heard of this podcast. Was it discussed here before? Any links to Charles' IG? I always enjoy seeing his paintings.
yarbles Posted - 06/08/2018 : 07:26:22
Yeah, it's a very different podcast than what Brian and Dean gave us, it's more loose. The later episodes get into more specifics about each album, the first was a bit of an intro. Different, but not bad.
picpic Posted - 06/08/2018 : 04:10:37
Ah, cool. I forgot about this podcast. Need to catch up newest episodes. I remember listening to the first one and they were especially talkin about their own story and feelings with the band. I expected more behind the scenes or trivia about the band. But they were just starting off. Nice to see BF interacting with them.

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yarbles Posted - 06/07/2018 : 13:52:40
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Originally posted by natenate101
How much has he been posting on his IG page Yarbles?



It seems he'd post a painting every day or two for awhile. He doesn't post anything besides that though. However, I have seen him comment of that Planet of Sound Podcast IG account every so often. Which is cool, we at least see him interacting with fans/commenting on stuff related to Pixies every so often.
yarbles Posted - 06/07/2018 : 13:50:00
While I admit Indie Cindy isn't up to par with previous records, I really like Head Carrier and think it's a big step in the right direction. I'm excited for the new album. They've gone through an entire album and tour cycle with Paz, the live shows are better than ever at the moment in my opinion, and the band in general just seems to be in a good spot. Looking forward to what comes next.
Bedbug Posted - 06/07/2018 : 09:28:34
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Originally posted by picpic

Funny how FB fans don't like current Pixies, while 2.0 records have been criticized by Pixies fan as being too much like "Frank Black featuring the Pixies".

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I'm actually guilty of holding both positions at the same time.
picpic Posted - 06/07/2018 : 07:28:11
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Originally posted by natenate101

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Originally posted by picpic

Funny how FB fans don't like current Pixies, while 2.0 records have been criticized by Pixies fan as being too much like "Frank Black featuring the Pixies".


I think you are making some sweeping statements here, are you basing this off of a handful of people on here who say these things? There are a ton of BF/FB fans


Well, yes. That's the general tendency I see on this forum or social media in general for Pixies fans vs FB fans. But I confess I haven't conducted a general opinon poll among worldwide Pixes/FB fans. Just simply reading social media/forums. I myself don't really see the real barrier between FB solo and BF in Pixies mode, that's probably why I find this kind of reaction amusing.

But you're right, maybe I should have added "some" FB / Pixies fans. Not 100% of each camp. Of course.

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natenate101 Posted - 06/07/2018 : 04:55:26
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Originally posted by picpic

Funny how FB fans don't like current Pixies, while 2.0 records have been criticized by Pixies fan as being too much like "Frank Black featuring the Pixies".

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I think you are making some sweeping statements here, are you basing this off of a handful of people on here who say these things? There are a ton of BF/FB fans still enjoying the new music and excited to see what comes next. But I maintain that excitement isn't cultivated or heightened at this time because the band isn't letting the fans in on the process. In one way I understand the desire for privacy while working but it's not like anyone is going to fly out to where they are recording and hound them. It's just a glimpse into the inner workings and builds anticipation. Think they could improve in this aspect of the current musical climate.
picpic Posted - 06/07/2018 : 02:30:25
Funny how FB fans don't like current Pixies, while 2.0 records have been criticized by Pixies fan as being too much like "Frank Black featuring the Pixies".

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natenate101 Posted - 06/06/2018 : 21:03:51
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Originally posted by yarbles

I have a feeling the album has been recorded. All last fall in interviews they said they had been jamming and working on ideas. A few months ago on Matt Pinfield's podcast Joey said they were going to be recording this spring. I think he mentioned or alluded to April or May. A couple of months ago, Paz posted an instagram story of them recording "raw and feral" demos in New England. Shortly afterwards, Paz went off instagram completely for a month or so, and only reappeared a few weeks ago, showing that she's back in LA. All during that same time, Charles has been posting more and more paintings on his Instagram, and he's said in the past that when he's working on music that he likes to use painting as a method of working things out. The Weezer tour starts in a few weeks and runs til the end of August. So, I'm thinking the songs have been recorded, and now Dalgety and whoever else is working on mixes.... the album won't come out this year though, because the fall will be dedicated to the Come On Pilgrim/Surfer Rosa re-releases and shows.... So I'm hoping they take a good long time in post production, making sure the mixes and mastering are perfect this time, and the album comes out next spring.



Been thinking about this recently too, especially after the IG hiatus from Paz and Dalgety somewhat. Something has been recorded and whether it's the final product or not, we'll likely get a preview of some tracks this summer in the live shows. I'm torn on that though, as I'd almost like to be surprised by the new material this time around. I hope you are right and they've been working while out of the social media spotlight. I know Charles seems to be against the fans knowing much about the process other than the finished group of songs. But I think that works against them and the buildup of excitement these days. The Vines he made for IC were cool, and exciting. Don't see why they don't cultivate some excitement from the fans using the various platforms available?

If there are no releases until next spring I'll be shocked and really disappointed though. That's too long without some BF songs to digest.

How much has he been posting on his IG page Yarbles?
oddball Posted - 06/06/2018 : 08:56:52
I just mentioned in another thread that I sincerely miss having some form of Frank Black music to look forward to each year. Unfortunately, it seems those days are gone.

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Bedbug Posted - 06/06/2018 : 04:40:03
You know, I pulled up HC this morning on Apple Music and scrolled through the track list. Nothing moved me. Ended up clicking on Oona, but it sounds so much like easy listening or something. Then I went to the complete FB&Cs and hit shuffle. It played Western Star and Blast Off back to back. So my morning was salvaged.

Basically what Iím saying is Iím not all that excited for the new 2.0 album.
picpic Posted - 06/06/2018 : 01:50:57
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Originally posted by yarbles
So I'm hoping they take a good long time in post production, making sure the mixes and mastering are perfect this time


Nope. Joey fell in love with the Dalgety overboosted sound. Next album will probably sound the same. Sigh. But we'll probably get some decent live soundboard recordings like we had for HC.

I wonder if anyone really cares about a new Pixies record. I remember the great expectations for the first 2.0 record that were still pretty high for the next one following the terrible reviews. Now what ?

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yarbles Posted - 06/05/2018 : 07:23:54
I have a feeling the album has been recorded. All last fall in interviews they said they had been jamming and working on ideas. A few months ago on Matt Pinfield's podcast Joey said they were going to be recording this spring. I think he mentioned or alluded to April or May. A couple of months ago, Paz posted an instagram story of them recording "raw and feral" demos in New England. Shortly afterwards, Paz went off instagram completely for a month or so, and only reappeared a few weeks ago, showing that she's back in LA. All during that same time, Charles has been posting more and more paintings on his Instagram, and he's said in the past that when he's working on music that he likes to use painting as a method of working things out. The Weezer tour starts in a few weeks and runs til the end of August. So, I'm thinking the songs have been recorded, and now Dalgety and whoever else is working on mixes.... the album won't come out this year though, because the fall will be dedicated to the Come On Pilgrim/Surfer Rosa re-releases and shows.... So I'm hoping they take a good long time in post production, making sure the mixes and mastering are perfect this time, and the album comes out next spring.
picpic Posted - 05/22/2018 : 00:10:17
The last tour was crazy. I hope they enjoy a bit of a break right now. I remember Joey saying somewhere they were putting down new ideas but won't be in the studio anytime soon.

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natenate101 Posted - 05/21/2018 : 17:26:30
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Originally posted by presley1

I still haven't heard Super lecker.

Oh my golly!



I don't think anyone has. They seemingly only played it once live, and there is only a compilation video of that show on YouTube with a shirt clip of Super Lecker.

I'm bummed there hasn't been any new updates or clues about the band working on new music. I can only assume they are still in the middle of writing, but it seems they have increased the secrecy of they are in a studio somewhere. Just give us a little nugget, a little something something Charles!
presley1 Posted - 05/19/2018 : 20:11:25
I still haven't heard Super lecker.

Oh my golly!
Bedbug Posted - 04/17/2018 : 02:04:12
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Originally posted by picpic

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Originally posted by Bedbug

Now where were we?

Yeah, that never works for me. Says I need to log in, but I'm already logged in.

"Deaner! Help!"


Wait... is a custom signature even allowed for a 1-star rank ?

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Hey, that's a good point. I don't want to sound like I'm grumbling if it's just a matter of me earning my stripes.
hammerhands Posted - 04/12/2018 : 02:40:23
Dean, are you related to people named Katsaros?

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