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| yarbles |
Posted - 11/16/2016 : 14:41:11
So Head Carrier has been out for awhile now, was wondering how everyone is liking it after the buzz of the new release has died down a bit. Do you think it's held up? Do you still find enjoyment in it, or have you moved on to something else?
Are there things in it that you've picked up on that you particularly like/dislike/find interesting?
I for one do still really like it, but I haven't listened to it for a week or two.... whereas when it first was released I was listening to it multiple times daily for weeks. I still like it, but I feel like in a way I've kinda moved on..... I need to go back and listen again and see how it holds up after a break.
But, there is one thing I've noticed on the song Head Carrier that I particularly like. The outro of the song is basically BF yelling HEAD CARRIER with Paz, then the second time he says it less-yelly, and the third he just speaks it, and the last time BF says nothing, we only hear a quiet Paz saying Head Carrier. That made me think of the life slowly leaving the head after it's been cut off.... the speech from the saint being loud at first, and then slowly diminishing until the life has fully left the head....
Anyone else have any thoughts/observations about HC and any/all of the songs/moments on it after having digested it for awhile? |
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| Bryanwex |
Posted - 09/18/2024 : 15:34:35
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| Bryanwex |
Posted - 09/18/2024 : 14:16:10
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| Troubles A Foot |
Posted - 04/16/2021 : 20:53:38
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan
This album deserves to be remastered. The songwriting is on point and so many details are sullied by the production. How do you make an album sound simultaneously muddy and harsh?!?
I've never thought the production was the problem with this album, but I'm intrigued. Do you have specific examples? To me the album is just a bit bland...maybe that is cause of the production...I'm not sure. I don't think it's the best songwriting (except a few I really like) and I'm not sure what could have saved it. |
| Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo |
Posted - 04/15/2021 : 21:06:50
The Pixies deserve to work with another producer (and another manager).
We deserve it as well.
#IwantmyFrankBlackback
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan
This album deserves to be remastered. The songwriting is on point and so many details are sullied by the production. How do you make an album sound simultaneously muddy and harsh?!?
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| tamefan |
Posted - 04/10/2021 : 17:02:15
This album deserves to be remastered. The songwriting is on point and so many details are sullied by the production. How do you make an album sound simultaneously muddy and harsh?!? |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 07/16/2019 : 22:01:10
Listening today and this record is so so so so great
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| Don Eduardo |
Posted - 05/22/2017 : 01:46:06
I enjoy Head Carrier. For me it's a long way above Indie Cindy, about on a par with NSE but not as good as Bluefinger. Makes far more sense comparing to later FB stuff to me. |
| Bedbug |
Posted - 05/22/2017 : 01:41:22
quote:
Originally posted by simibaby
Sorry I seem to be the only "thumbs down" for the most part compared to basically EVERYTHING FB's done in the past, (excepy maybe "Indie Cindy") him/them being older and all that notwithstanding.
And, I actually LOVE Paz........excellent musical chops. Can't believe NOBODY doesn't have a prob with the songs. Oh well. Can't wait for this Weds, Thurs, Fri, though in NYC !
BTW, new Brooklyn Bowl is heavenly in every way. Peace out.
Maybe I'll see you there!
And actually, to contradict myself on what I said on the thread re: thoughts / impressions on HC months later: I'm actually looking forward to hearing the 2.0 songs, just to see the man doing some things I haven't seen him do before. |
| yarbles |
Posted - 05/21/2017 : 23:55:36
It's a good album. |
| simibaby |
Posted - 05/21/2017 : 15:23:35
Sorry I seem to be the only "thumbs down" for the most part compared to basically EVERYTHING FB's done in the past, (excepy maybe "Indie Cindy") him/them being older and all that notwithstanding.
And, I actually LOVE Paz........excellent musical chops. Can't believe NOBODY doesn't have a prob with the songs. Oh well. Can't wait for this Weds, Thurs, Fri, though in NYC !
BTW, new Brooklyn Bowl is heavenly in every way. Peace out. |
| natenate101 |
Posted - 03/17/2017 : 22:02:20
Still very enjoyable and an easy listen. Still think the energy of Um Chagga Lagga is my favorite piece of the album. Would like more of this tempo. BF just went too simplistic in terms of lyrics and song structure on many songs. Might As Well Gone and Bel Espirit are mediocre and too straightforward. Oona, Masher, Saints and Plaster are wonderful songs that I don't tire of. HC, Baals, Talent, Tenement are hit and miss. Sometimes I really get into them and others I don't pay much attention. Overall, a strong step forward after IC. Excited to see what's next but also kinda resigning myself to the fact we probably won't get the weird BF I desire. But hey, I'm happy they are still making quality music of course. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 02/23/2017 : 05:37:02
While I enjoy Frank's lyrics it's the music that interests me the most and in this case, Talent has an infectious energy that makes me smile. Switching gears, I don't feel one way or the other about Paz.
There are some live clips where she sounds out of tune but she's all right on the album. I'm not blown away by her voice or anything, if they'd gone with a male bass player I wouldn't have cared at this point. But she does a good job and most likely has brought a fresh energy to the band that's necessary for new music going forward.
It's too bad that her big vocal turn is on a terrible song. It's bad enough the opening is some twisted version of Where is my mind, but the oooh-ohhhs are too much. The chords through the verses are fine but the higher pitched riff marred the whole thing. It's the Pixies at their most generic and dull, as if a big fan of the band tried writing something while heavily influenced and turned this out.
Perhaps the other parts of the song could be enjoyable on their own or as part of a new song but not with that riff and the oooh-oooh's bringing it down. Shit, the ending of the song is close to how they finish Where is My Mind in concert.
Too bad that the sentiment, of a nostalgic and seemingly sweet look back specifically at Kim is such an awful song. |
| picpic |
Posted - 02/22/2017 : 01:11:37
Not a fan of Talent. But it has more to do with the theme/lyrics than the music itself. Pong, Thalassocracy or Allison had pretty wild lyrics & ultimate catchphrases. Talent lyrics are kind of meh. Too common, maybe ? Less surreal. But the music itself is good.
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 02/20/2017 : 08:24:24
Sometimes the songs I like immediately and with such fervor end up wearing out their welcome too quickly; I'm hoping that's not the case with Talent. While he's written many a great fast song, something about this one feels new, perhaps just the way he keeps saying "talent" coupled with the chord progression. Whatever it is, I really love this one.
cheers |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 02/20/2017 : 02:17:03
Talent is the best track on the record IMO - a blast of pure energy reminiscent of Alison, Thalassocracy or Pong |
| Sprite |
Posted - 02/19/2017 : 13:24:03
Listened to it again after maybe 6 weeks break while doing the dishes. Was bopping away instantly. It's a great little record, no doubt. Definitely feeling the Doolittle vibe but its the poppier end. Know almost all the lyrics word for word already. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 02/17/2017 : 09:11:43
I've listened to it three times, and overall I prefer it to Indie Cindy, catchier songs, some good riffs and a few great tunes.
I still haven't looked at the track list but amongst the others I mentioned above, Classic Masher stood out this time and Talent is so amazing I don't want to wear it out. Chugga Lugga is pretty good too. The Where is my mind like song is still bad; just wanted it to stop.
I like the blend of the instruments, particularly Dave's drums, no opinion on the loudness element since I've only heard it on car speakers. There's some nice guitar lines as well from Joey.
To my mind, Indie Cindy has songs that tried for something different, which I respect but didn't much enjoy listening to, Head Carrier thus far seems more traditional but the songs are better.
Neither one is as good as the original albums but I just take them for what they are now, or how they seem to me...which is more like a Frank Black solo album with his old bandmates resulting in an all right or slightly below average record and a good one.
I suppose more listens could change my perspective, but for now I enjoy the new album feeling, not knowing what song is going to come next and strectching that out as long as I can.
cheers |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 01/24/2017 : 10:49:43
One listen in the car, too soon to tell other than an early impression, don't really know the song titles yet:
I liked Chugga Lugga, Talent and really disliked the Where is My Mind derivative. Why would they do that? |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 12/29/2016 : 12:33:13
I received it for Christmas.
I may listen to it on New Years Eve when I drive to meet my friend-with-benefits. It's either that or maybe some Queens of the Stone Age.
Happy New Year! |
| peter radiator |
Posted - 12/23/2016 : 07:04:29
quote:
Originally posted by Idalgo Clandestino
The good thing about HC is that it makes IC sound really good!
hahahahahahahaha
I like both albums quite a bit, but I have to agree with you, Idalgo.
To me, despite the "transitional" nature of IC, I feel Gil's "thought experiment" was an unqualified success: it really does sound like what I can imagine the "next" Pixies album after TLM could have sounded like.
If I did not know that Kim Deal had left the band early in the sessions and had her bass tracks wiped, I would likely not have noticed any substantial "lack" in the final product.
Some (including perhaps FBF, Dave and Joey) may view HC as a "return to form" for the band after IC.
I think HC is a fine and very enjoyable album. A lot of it reminds me a great deal of what the Pixies were doing on their way to splitting up initially. Even more of it reminds me of what FBF has accomplished in the years since the band originally ceased to be.
However, IC reminds me of what the Pixies had become (and had achieved) by the time they took that long, long break.
It's a HUGE shame that, in concert at least, they seem to have relegated 95% of IC's songs to the garbage heap.
It's a real bummer to not get to hear what tunes like "What Goes Boom," "Jaime Bravo," "Blue-Eyed Hexe" and "Ring the Bell" might have morphed into over time.
I hope they reconsider at some point and work them up for even occasional inclusion into their live shows.
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| Idalgo Clandestino |
Posted - 12/22/2016 : 22:20:15
The good thing about HC is that it makes IC sound really good!
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you probably thought i'm a shy guy |
| Bedbug |
Posted - 12/20/2016 : 17:20:01
After a few months of listening to it I'm still saying it's a great piece of that guy's music. I would love one of these every year.
I still consider the last Pixies album (that sound) to be the first half of Bossanova. I'd say HC ranks somewhere in the middle of BF solo stuff, below Bluefinger but above NSE.
Also I always disliked the order of the songs on IC, but I like HC's order just fine. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 12/12/2016 : 08:32:58
Ha! You're closer to listening to it than I am. Perhaps it'll be a Christmas present.
cheers |
| Carl |
Posted - 12/10/2016 : 14:15:27
I only got the CD the other week and I still haven't sat down and listened to the bloody thing! |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 12/08/2016 : 22:14:38
Make Believe (no BF/Kim vocals) |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 22:06:50
Where is my mind... it just does not sound like any other Pixies song at all.
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| Bedbug |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 12:17:18
Gigantic |
| sdon |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 11:45:00
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
Unless it's already been done, I think a thread on:
"What is the least Pixies sounding Pixies song of the 1.0 era?"
would be an interesting discussion.
Silver, Here Comes Your Man, Navajo Know
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| Bedbug |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 09:19:31
Yeah!
:-) |
| pot |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 08:39:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBAijg5Betw |
| Bedbug |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 07:51:29
Unless it's already been done, I think a thread on:
"What is the least Pixies sounding Pixies song of the 1.0 era?"
would be an interesting discussion. |
| Bedbug |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 07:05:09
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Listened to it again the last couple of days
After the Amsterdam gig
This is pretty nifty record, people
Disclaimer: No Kim, no relevance, no youthful energy, nothing you haven't heard before
Still
Fine, fine lyrics, great songs, solid playing, great new bass player, lovely harmonies, great drumming
I'm a sucker for Frank's writing and this one record is classic Frank
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
Agree with this. It doesn't seem like many people are saying HC is a bad album, as opposed to IC which a lot of people have called "bad."
The rub seems to be whether or not HC is a good Pixies album, or merely a good something else. |
| picpic |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 03:48:51
Dave said in multiple interviews that the classic Pixies albums were complicated to make because he had to record them super fast and didn't have much time to rehearse. According to him Indie & Head sessions were great because he had plenty of time to learn his parts and rehearse as much as he wanted to.
Maybe he's just more creative when he works in a rush ?
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| vilainde |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 03:33:51
quote:
Originally posted by picpic
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Fine, fine lyrics, great songs, solid playing, great new bass player, lovely harmonies, great drumming
I'm a sucker for Frank's writing and this one record is classic Frank
Really ? I think there are fantastic melodies et super-catchy songs on this record, but I think the Achilles' heel of the album are probably the lyrics & the very standard drumming.
My theory is that Dave cannot play crazy drums on every single song on a setlist. And Indie/Head are more laid-back when it comes to drums. So he can rest a little between the earlier songs.
Same here. I like the album a lot but I'm very disappointed in the drums parts. A drum machine would have done the same.
Hell I hope he doesn't read the forum...
Denis
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| picpic |
Posted - 12/07/2016 : 02:27:26
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Fine, fine lyrics, great songs, solid playing, great new bass player, lovely harmonies, great drumming
I'm a sucker for Frank's writing and this one record is classic Frank
Really ? I think there are fantastic melodies et super-catchy songs on this record, but I think the Achilles' heel of the album are probably the lyrics & the very standard drumming.
My theory is that Dave cannot play crazy drums on every single song on a setlist. And Indie/Head are more laid-back when it comes to drums. So he can rest a little between the earlier songs.
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