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Broken Face Posted - 02/13/2006 : 17:10:43
As it appears that, for now, Snake Oil is a iTunes only release, let's work up some proper liner notes for the more obsessed among us.

I'd eventually like to have who wrote/produced/engineered the songs, what musicians played what on it, and when/how it was originally released (if it ever was).

Please tell me any/all info i should add.

1. Take What You Want
Written by Reid Paley
Originally released on the Everything is New CD Single
Cooking Vinyl
8/4/03
2. Belle Isle
Traditional song, Arranged by Bob Dylan
Previously Unreleased
Produced by Nick Vincent
Performed by Frank Black (guitar, vocal), Scott Boutier (drums), David McCaffrey (bass), Morris Tepper (guitar, feedback)
3. Somethings
Written by Joseph Pope and Jon E. Risk
Previously Unreleased
Devil's Workshop Outtake
Produced by Frank Black and the Catholics and Ben Mumphrey
Recorded by Ben Mumphrey
Performed by Frank Black (vocals, guitar), Scott Boutier (drums, absolutely no vocals), David McCaffrey (bass, backing vocals), Dave Philips (guitar, additonal vocals)
4. The Big Hurt
Written by Wayne Shanklin
Originally released on the Dog Gone CD Single
Play It Again Sam
6/16/98
Recorded by Billy Joe Bowers
Performed by Frank Black (guitar, vocals), Scott Boutier (drums), David McCaffrey (bass, backing vocals)
5. Do Nothing
Written by Golding/Lyvnal
Originally released on the Dog Gone CD Single and the I Gotta Move CD Single
Dog Gone:
Play It Again Sam
6/16/98
I Gotta Move:
Shock Records
Recorded by Billy Joe Bowers
Performed by Frank Black (guitar, vocals), Scott Boutier (drums), David McCaffrey (bass, backing vocals)
6. I'm Going Down
Written by Bruce Springsteen
Originally released on the Dog Gone CD Single and the SpinART records vinyl-only compilation ...the audible spectrum
Dog Gone:
Play It Again Sam
6/16/98
...the audible spectrum:
SpinART Records
4/26/05
Recorded by Billy Joe Bowers
Performed by Frank Black (guitar, vocals), Scott Boutier (drums), David McCaffrey (bass, backing vocals)
7. Down In The Hole
Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
Originally released on the Everything is New CD Single
Cooking Vinyl
8/4/03
Recorded by by Ben Mumphrey
Performed by Frank Black (guitar, vocals), Tommy Stinson (bass), Morris Tepper (lead guitar)
8. Snake Oil
Originally released on the Nadine CD Single
Cooking Vinyl
12/2/03
9. Changing Of The Guards
Written by Bob Dylan
Originally released on the All My Ghosts CD Single
Play It Again Sam
2/17/98
Produced by Nick Vincent
10. Sleep
Traditional Song, Arranged by Donovan
Originally released on the St. Francis Dam Disaster CD Single
Cooking Vinyl
2/12/01
Produced by Eric Drew Feldman
Recorded by Kevin Ink
Performed by Frank Black (vocal, guitar), Scott Boutier (drums), Eric Drew Feldman (electric piano), Rich Gilbert (pedal steel guitar), David McCaffrey (bass)

Album published through TuneCore.com

Cover art by Jay Nungesser (bigblurdesign.com)

-Brian
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shineoftheever Posted - 10/17/2012 : 04:39:24
thanks hammer. i used that to get some other songs i realised that became unsynced but OMRFTH and Snkae Oil are not there. i wonder if its because i updated my e-mail, cc#, and address et cetera??? i know i didnt create a new account, unlesssssssssss i used my daughters account, that coulda been it.....ahhh shit



The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind.
hammerhands Posted - 10/17/2012 : 02:44:33
I just looked at this in my account and I can download all the songs on OMRFTH and 1 song on Snake Oil in iTunes.

In the left margin, Store -> Purchases, then in the lower right corner Download Previous Purchases.
hammerhands Posted - 10/15/2012 : 09:34:32
You can't download it because they don't have it.

You can get an external drive reader to plug in your old hard drive.

Is it SATA or mini-IDE?
shineoftheever Posted - 10/15/2012 : 04:44:25
old ipod got stolen.

old laptop - i only have the hardrive so maybe need to have somemone lift the files. weird thing i sthey don't show up in my itunes account...there is a function there where you can d/l all your purchases..i dunno.


The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind.
hammerhands Posted - 10/14/2012 : 20:55:33
They're not for sale Right now.

Do you have your old laptop? Are they on your iPod?
shineoftheever Posted - 10/14/2012 : 19:30:35
so i bought OMRFTH and Snake Oil off iTunes ages ago and have switched laptops and had to re-install iTunes; i have the same user account so why aren't my old purchases there?



The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind.
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 02/25/2010 : 07:41:32
quote:
Originally posted by houstonguthrie

I've been rocking on Belle Isle lately - is this a great song or what?? I've heard some other versions - and none of them would have caught my ear had I not heard Frank's version.

I've not yet heard the original version of "Burnt out Rock and Roll" - but from what I've heard - it's the same kind of deal. In that people have been asking "How did Frank recognize this as a great tune?". same thought came to me when hearing other versions of Belle Isle

Well he's got the knack I guess. Same could be said for "Changing of the Guard" and "Going Down" - in my opinion given new life in Frank's renditions.

Best part of "Belle Isle" is when Frank sings the line "and go through my hardship and tooooooolllllllllll".

Best part of "Goin Down" is the breakdown when he's screaming "down down down down down down!!!" you know the one right?




changing of the guard toook forever for me to get into. i was wondering why out of so many dylan songs why this one. and then years later i fell in love. and i can't even tell you why.
Superabounder Posted - 07/22/2007 : 22:35:37
What a great week...bought Christmass a few days ago, then just bought One More Road for the Hit and Snake Oil in the last 30 minutes off itunes. And I didn't buy them before why???? Living on Soul triggered the domino effect. God he is so great.

Actually the whole thing started thanks to Brian's podcast with Massif Centrale off of Christmass. Cannot wait until Bluefinger comes out in next few months since I have not heard it yet.

He really does sound like Springsteen when he sings "Down...down...down" early on in the song.



I'd rather be anywhere or doing anything
darwin Posted - 01/11/2007 : 00:16:47
Holy Moly Ben! "The Breeders Engineer 2005-present" Please tell us more. Any news on the new Breeders album?
1965 Posted - 01/10/2007 : 23:56:28
Hey, thank you Ben! Nice to find out where BI fits in the picture now.


MCMLXV
Broken Face Posted - 01/10/2007 : 17:09:24
Thanks Ben! Welcome aboard!

-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com
BenMumphrey Posted - 01/10/2007 : 16:28:50
"Belle Isle" was recorded by me during the Devil's Workshop sessions at 3rd Encore in North Hollywood. I believe Morris Tepper plays guitar in addition to the 4 core players (Boots/ D.Mac/ Davey P./ Chas.)

quote:
Originally posted by 1965

Has anyone been able to get any info re when BELLE ISLE was recorded and/or what session it was from?

(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. ))

houstonguthrie Posted - 12/13/2006 : 16:16:52
I've been rocking on Belle Isle lately - is this a great song or what?? I've heard some other versions - and none of them would have caught my ear had I not heard Frank's version.

I've not yet heard the original version of "Burnt out Rock and Roll" - but from what I've heard - it's the same kind of deal. In that people have been asking "How did Frank recognize this as a great tune?". same thought came to me when hearing other versions of Belle Isle

Well he's got the knack I guess. Same could be said for "Changing of the Guard" and "Going Down" - in my opinion given new life in Frank's renditions.

Best part of "Belle Isle" is when Frank sings the line "and go through my hardship and tooooooolllllllllll".

Best part of "Goin Down" is the breakdown when he's screaming "down down down down down down!!!" you know the one right?
vilainde Posted - 09/19/2006 : 00:11:22
Nope, I already downloaded the "bunji" song from soulseek and it's not that one. It's amazing that no one has found the name of the original band yet.


Denis

Billy Radcliffe Posted - 09/18/2006 : 19:50:20
So who wrote Snake Oil then? When I do a search on it all i get is 'bunji garlin'

...And if I'm right, the urban plight is not the problem.
bonedry Posted - 03/24/2006 : 22:43:10
oh yeah, what's this doing in a frank black thread? some guy named jon tiven produced some songs for him!
bonedry Posted - 03/24/2006 : 22:35:47
peter's brother dan? don't make stuff up. i know peter aykroyd, but a dan, that's just silly. no, 3/14/06, in the morning we watched spies like us and i watched the credits, and later that day frank hath wrought a flurry of perfectly composed rock n' roll upon mine ears. mr. tiven, be well and thank you.
Jontiven Posted - 03/24/2006 : 16:29:20
Dear Bonedry,

But of course, the film features the song "Rock The House Down" as performed by Peter Aykroyd, written by Peter and myself. Peter's brother Dan was an actor in the film, and he played the song for the director, John Landis.
What is this doing in a Frank Black thread? There is actually a connection, be it slightly remote. The pianist on the session for that song, recorded in Los Angeles in 1983 (my first L.A. session) was Mark T. Jordan, who plays keys on FastmanRaiderman.
Alright, six degrees of separation done in just two or three!

bye,
Jon Tiven
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 03/23/2006 : 06:23:19
Shoot, I think I came across it but can't recall if it was for that or another song, much less when. Think it may have been as far back as DITS, but again, not sure if it was that song or even if I'm right re:DITS.

So, in short, no. :)


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
1965 Posted - 03/22/2006 : 23:23:32
Has anyone been able to get any info re when BELLE ISLE was recorded and/or what session it was from?

(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. ))
bonedry Posted - 03/21/2006 : 19:43:33
tiven, don' ask me why. i was reading the credits for spies like us. ring any bells?
Jontiven Posted - 02/22/2006 : 07:50:17
In answer to your question, I did not kill anyone. Yet.

I don't know David McCafferty, but I know his gay brother Phil.

Joke!

bye,
Jon Tiven
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 02/22/2006 : 06:26:58
:P


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
starmekitten Posted - 02/22/2006 : 02:15:00
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Those ones already in the db:

http://www.frankblack.net/songs

Thanks for digging though, so busy, so busy (calls out for Tre to save him).




I've got to do what now?
Broken Face Posted - 02/21/2006 : 10:53:35
Hey Jay! Welcome aboard

-Brian
jediroller Posted - 02/21/2006 : 10:48:07
Who is David McCafferty? ;-)


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BigBlur Posted - 02/21/2006 : 10:25:57
Hi Broken Face - two other things you can add to the unofficial notes (for SNAKE OIL as well as ONE MORE ROAD...) --

Both albums published through TuneCore.com

Cover art by Jay Nungesser (bigblurdesign.com) -- yours truly

cheers
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 02/20/2006 : 14:26:24
Those ones already in the db:

http://www.frankblack.net/songs

Thanks for digging though, so busy, so busy (calls out for Tre to save him).




"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
atomicbart Posted - 02/20/2006 : 13:27:14
hi,

Belle Isle Lyrics

One evening for pleasure I rambled to view
The fair fields all alone
Down by the banks of Loch Eiron
Where beauty and pleasure were known.

I spied a fair maid at her labour
Which caused me to stay for a while
And I thought of a goddess to beauty
Bloomin' bright star of Bright Isle.

I humbled myself to her beauty
"Fair maiden, where do you belong ?
Are you from heaven descended
Abiding in Cupid's fair throne ?".

"Young man, I will tell you a secret
It's true I'm a maid that is poor
And to part from my vows and my promise
Is more than my heart can endure.

Therefore I remain at my service
And go through all my hardship and toil
And wait for the lad that has left me
All alone on the banks of Belle Isle".

"Young maiden I wish not to banter
It's true I come here in disguise
I came here to fulfill our last promise
And hope to give you a surprise.

I've known you're a maid I love dearly
And you've been in my heart all the while
For me there is no other damsel
Than my bloomin' bright star of Belle Isle".

Atomicbart
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 02/20/2006 : 08:37:13
Thanks Bart, added to the SongDB!


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
mrgrieves1971 Posted - 02/20/2006 : 06:50:18
quote:
Originally posted by frnck blck

hi



Not only is it his best post ever, if you notice, he also edited it. I wonder if the post used to be shorter.
atomicbart Posted - 02/20/2006 : 04:29:46
Hi, i've just find the lyrics of this beautiful song :

Do Nothing (Perfomed (and written?) by The Specials) :


Each Day I walk along this lonely street
Trying to find, find a future
New pair of shoes are on my feet
Cos' fashion is my only culture

Nothing ever change, oh no
Nothing ever change

People say to me just be yourself
It makes no sense to follow fashion
How could I be anybody else
I don't try, I've got no reason

Nothing ever change, oh no
Nothing ever change

I'm just living in a life without meaning
I walk and walk, do nothing
I'm just living in a life without feeling
I talk and talk, say nothing

Nothing ever change, oh no
Nothing ever change

I walk along this same old lonely street
Still trying to find, find a reason
Policeman comes and smacks me in the teeth
I don't complain, it's not my function

Nothing ever change, oh no
Nothing ever change

They're just living in a life without meaning
I walk and walk, do nothing
They're just playing in a life without thinking
They talk and talk, say nothing
I'm just living in a life without feeling
I walk and walk, I'm dreaming
I'm just living in a life without feeling
I talk and talk, say nothing
I'm just living in a life without meaning
I walk and walk, do nothing

Atomicbart
Frog in the Sand Posted - 02/17/2006 : 11:28:48
Jon Tiven?

-----
"I want to change the world but it's changing me!"
vilainde Posted - 02/17/2006 : 07:44:35
Yep, I saw it. He said who killed JFK.


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
Broken Face Posted - 02/17/2006 : 07:42:29
did anyone catch the original, no-edited post?

-Brian

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