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| Carl |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 11:07:20
www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges.html
Check out these alterations to these original SW trilogy-some of them are interesting, but I mean sticking Hayden Christensen in there is a bit much....on the subject of movies, I've recently seen Hellboy(okay-really liked some of it and was looking forward to seeing it, have to admit it's a bit messy ) Super Size Me(very good), also watched a few older movies in the last while(Amelie-terrific, the original Day Of The Jackyl, The Ipcress File, Brief Encounter-all great, plus the Sean Penn-directed The Pledge-good, very well made, the story got a little convoluted, though. Wanna see Open Water, mebbe this weekend.
CARL.
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| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 10/07/2004 : 11:09:57
another fav moment:
Roy has just taken two whacks to the head from Deckard's metal pipe.
He grabs the pipe and yells to Deckard,
"Thats the SPIRIT!!!"
and
"I can see you!!" [wolf howl]
Hell yeah.
and she said "What? In these shoes?! No, lets do it here." |
| n/a |
Posted - 10/07/2004 : 10:42:25
hurrah for geekdom
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 10/07/2004 : 10:24:46
Got my copy of the orig BladeRunner in the mail yesterday and watched it last night.
"Tyrell told me she was a special model; no termination date. I don't know how long we have together, but then again who does?"
"..attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...all of those...moments will be lost...like tears...in...rain."
Fucking beautiful movie.
Gonna go get a copy of the director's cut now so I can be a full-on BR geek.
Whee!
and she said "What? In these shoes?! No, lets do it here." |
| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/30/2004 : 23:27:19
I bought the SW trilogy last night for about $2.50 American, total. I haven't watched them yet, but they are the newly released ones with the changes.
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| n/a |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 10:18:00
I loved the whole lord of the rings series, I think the third book slows down a notch for sure and the end is a bit long winded but it's a damned sight better than all that bloody Tom Bombadilling in the first book, eurk
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 09/28/2004 : 10:00:38
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat
Didn't Clarke actually use the film version of 2001 over his own novel when writing the sequels?
The only Clarke book I've ever read was Childhood's End, but I liked it.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
yeah i think so, been a while since i read them, but the only real differences are... (thinks about it as this normally confuses him)... ok the book goes to saturn, the film goes to jupiter... clarke then uses jupiter in the other books of the series, mainly (i believe) because of europa and the theory that jupiter's core may be an enourmous pure diamond... but yeah i think he also followed on from the film as more people were familiar with it and didn't want to confuse matters. there's no other major differences iirc. apparently it was a good job kubrick used jupiter as the image they were going to produce has since been found to be inacurate and it would have looked a bit naff now.
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
| VoVat |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 19:27:48
quote:
I'm still struggling with whether or not I want to read the third Lord of the Rings book. Feels like I should after reading the other two plus the hobbit, but I also know I should waste my time on something I don't enjoy that much anyway. There's so much else out there that I shouldn't waste my time on it
Yeah, but you might as well finish what you've started, right?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 10:13:11
Thanks cvan.
I will look around.
Poignantly, look what I bought!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6325256954&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
muahahahaha!!!! 
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| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 09:47:14
Hey vilainde, don't bother. You gave it a shot and it's not for you; don't waste your time trying to like it.
I'm still struggling with whether or not I want to read the third Lord of the Rings book. Feels like I should after reading the other two plus the hobbit, but I also know I should waste my time on something I don't enjoy that much anyway. There's so much else out there that I shouldn't waste my time on it.
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| cvanepps |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 09:39:59
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson
I'm no big movie buff, but the ones I like are usually more open-ended, or I think they are, anyway. If not open-ended, then just wierd enough and not too wierd or funny enough but not too funny.
Blade Runner (of course).
Denial - an old 80's thing, you'd have to see it - had RaeDawn Chong in it.
Alphaville: hell yeah. fucking strange.
Blowup
Whos' Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
2001
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Leaving Las Vegas.
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.
Slacker
The Big Lebowski.
Lost in Translation
Igby Goes Down.
Ok, I'm an idiot.
Thank you for asking for a partial list of my favorite movies. 
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the head catatonic from the roller rink
Pretty good list here, KSR. If you like these then you'll surely like my suggested additions:
May
Ghost World
Roadside Prophets
Down By Law (in fact, any Jarmusch film would probably suit you)
Way of the Gun
Storytelling (or Welcome to the Dollhouse or even Happiness)
-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
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| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 09:28:34
I'm no big movie buff, but the ones I like are usually more open-ended, or I think they are, anyway. If not open-ended, then just wierd enough and not too wierd or funny enough but not too funny.
Blade Runner (of course).
Denial - an old 80's thing, you'd have to see it - had RaeDawn Chong in it.
Alphaville: hell yeah. fucking strange.
Blowup
Whos' Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
2001
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Leaving Las Vegas.
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.
Slacker
The Big Lebowski.
Lost in Translation
Igby Goes Down.
Ok, I'm an idiot.
Thank you for asking for a partial list of my favorite movies.
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| vilainde |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 09:22:48
It's not because it's slow. I watched Barry Lyndon for the third time yesterday and never felt tired. And I saw Jackie Brown 3 times at the cinema (my fave Tarantino movie, hands down). I also love Brazil which you could call slow-paced and intellectual, and I totally love 2001. I just didn't get Blade Runner for some reason. Maybe I should give it yet another chance but I don't feel like spending another 2 hours watching it. I'll just accept the fact that I'm an idiot and watch Dude Where's My Car instead.
Denis
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| realmeanmotorscutor |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 09:02:05
Man, I love Blade Runner. It's one of my favorite movies. I can see falling asleep during it if you're very tired though. I fell asleep during Jackie Brown (actually every person I know fell asleep during Jackie Brown the first time they saw it), but when I finally saw it all I liked it. Well . . . I remember thinking it was ok at least. I need to watch it again before further comment. Anyway, Blade Runner is amazing.
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| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 08:58:44
ok let me break it down for you.
blade runner is slow-paced and intellectual. the problem is this: you are an idiot. |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/27/2004 : 08:51:41
Am I the only one who thinks Blade Runner is boring? I usually have pretty common tastes in movies, and everyone keeps raving about how BR is the best sci-fi movie ever and all, so I thought I would really enjoy it. I went to see it at the cinema a few years ago and fell asleep after 15 minutes. It was very late actually, I think the movie started at midnight. And then last year I downloaded it and tried to give it another chance, and guess what... fell asleep again. This time though I managed to wake up quickly and watched the whole movie, but I don't understand what's so great about it.
Denis
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| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 14:01:54
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2
Colonel Fitts killed kevin spacey, it showed the aftermath!
yeah i forgot. i had actually read somewhere not that long ago that was talking about the original version and said the theatrical release was 'ambiguous'. since my memory was fuzzy i trusted what i had read.
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 13:59:25
Having watched Episode IV after all the documentaries and background, it was almost like seeing it new again, not to mention the fact that the movie felt new. What a great film! It really was beautifully restored and looks and sounds better than I have EVER seen it. I could really do a marathon of them right now, and I may yet do just that today...
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| VoVat |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 12:10:46
Didn't Clarke actually use the film version of 2001 over his own novel when writing the sequels?
The only Clarke book I've ever read was Childhood's End, but I liked it.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 08:39:03
quote:
Originally posted by soundofataris
read the novel. Its very clear and boring. I feel that the film is better, cause you can come up with your own interpretation of how/why Bowman(was that the character's name?) becomes a cosmic entity.
Its full of stars.
and boring?!?!  well i admit 2001, the novel, doesn't end as well as the film, as the loose ends are tied up and you actually learn what bowman has become and what he can do, but it's a nice compliment to the film imo, adds to the story. 2010 the book is a whole, whole, whole lot better than it's film version.
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 08:29:05
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious
+ American Beauty (who killed kevin spacey?)
Colonel Fitts killed kevin spacey, it showed the aftermath!
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 08:25:23
2001 is a tricky one, and my favourite film of all time to boot... it's possible that the film can be understood/interpretted differently to how the actual space odyssey books go. if you read the books, all 4 of them, then it's pretty obvious what the whole thing is about, as clarke loves to explain everything he can... i don't know, i don't think it's too hard to interpret, you don't have to look too deep into. it's hard having read the books too, as they all kind of merge into 1 and you end up with clarke's story rather than the collaborative effort that was the film...
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 08:14:11
it's interesting that you assume that i cannot possibly understand everything in 2001.
how do you know how many times i've seen it?
how can you guess at my ability to unravel kubrick's symbolism?
the fact is, 2001 is not as complex as it seems. once you figure out kubrick's visual language, it becomes much easier. |
| TheCroutonFuton |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:34:25
Forget it. Didn't mean to offend you.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:13:47
NEVER SEEN BLADE RUNNER?
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the room smelled like cupids gym
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| VoVat |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 09:46:11
quote:
I got my favourite film quote of all time from blade runner home again, home again jiggedy jig
Too bad nobody would actually KNOW it was a Blade Runner reference unless you told them.
Or maybe they would. I've never actually seen Blade Runner. It isn't like the screenwriters made up that line, though.
As for the original subject of the thread, I have no intention of getting the Star Wars DVDs, but yeah, I think the alterations were a pretty dumb idea.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| glacial906 |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 20:21:27
My God.
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| soundofataris |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 15:33:35
read the novel. Its very clear and boring. I feel that the film is better, cause you can come up with your own interpretation of how/why Bowman(was that the character's name?) becomes a cosmic entity.
Its full of stars. |
| floop |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 12:26:01
you still haven't told me what your interpretation of the ending is, smart guy
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 12:20:43
like i said some movies are obviously ambiguous. 2001 is not.
just because a bunch of monkeys can't figure out the right answer to a calculus problem doesn't mean there isn't one.
edit: also for clarification, 2001 isn't a calculus problem. it's actually pretty obvious, imho. |
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 11:08:23
I was going to hold off on buying the star wars DVD until a few months, but thanks to this topic and reading the review on that website I have to buy it tonight. Agh.
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| floop |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:38:47
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious
quote:
Originally posted by floop
the point remains: the ending is ambiguous/open-ended/what have you.
well it's ambiguous to you because you haven't figured it out.
but if you were dumb enough, every movie would be ambiguous.
it's ambiguous because there are multiple multiple interpretations of it.
you may have yours, but other people have differing interpretations as well. i have my interpretation of the ending.. but i'm open-minded enough to understand that that's my interpretation. and that other interpretations are just as valid, since that's the nature of the work. it's not straightforward.
i'm glad you've figured it out for yourself though.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| floop |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:37:34
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son
quote:
Originally posted by floop
MULHOLLAND DRIVE - is she actually a fucked-up struggling actor living out some Hollywood delusion, or did some of that happen, or what the fuck?
First part is a dream that happens after the last half hour of the film (which is real).
quote:
MEMENTO - did he kill his wife or not?
Yes, he did.
i don't think either of those are that clear cut
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| Carl |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:16:53
Some movies/books/song lyrics, etc. are open to interpretation....by the way, DVD Review's site shows how access a 5 minute blooper-reel on the SW boxset:
www.dvdreview.com/html/hidden_features.shtml |
| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:02:17
quote:
Originally posted by floop
the point remains: the ending is ambiguous/open-ended/what have you.
well it's ambiguous to you because you haven't figured it out.
but if you were dumb enough, every movie would be ambiguous. |
| The Holiday Son |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 09:55:13
quote:
Originally posted by floop
MULHOLLAND DRIVE - is she actually a fucked-up struggling actor living out some Hollywood delusion, or did some of that happen, or what the fuck?
First part is a dream that happens after the last half hour of the film (which is real).
quote:
MEMENTO - did he kill his wife or not?
Yes, he did. |
