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Ebb Vicious Posted - 08/13/2004 : 18:07:48

anybody else listen to music at "inappropriate volumes"? aka, really fucking loud? every CD i listen to i try to play at a volume that makes me feel like i'm listening to it being performed.

for a lot of it that means way louder than most people are comfortable with.

right now i'm listening to KMFDM at the highest volume that these puny speakers can handle, and it's quite short of what i'd like it to be at.

if you don't listen to music loud, why not? something wrong with you?

btw, it's a lot harder to damage your ears than you've been lead to believe by your grandmother. my hearing is very, very good.
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Jason Posted - 08/15/2004 : 19:17:48
angry, angry, angry...
Ebb Vicious Posted - 08/15/2004 : 16:02:25
jason, that is kind of amusing because it is utterly retarded.

if you don't realize that's not what i meant, then there's no point in explaining it to you because you'll just get lost on some other little detail that isn't illustrated in crayon.
Sir Rockabye Posted - 08/15/2004 : 15:36:08
The only time that I really listen to my music at top volumes is when I'm listening on my walkman or discman. This is usually walking to or from school. I have a pretty good idea that it's causing damage to my ears, my friends and parents are constantly telling me to turn it down. I've had people across the street from me walk across and tell me to turn the volume down. I really ought to listen at lower volumes, but I can't enjoy my music if I can hear other sounds, i.e. conversations of other people, traffic, or a radio.


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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 08/15/2004 : 14:28:54
I have mine on 11.

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n/a Posted - 08/15/2004 : 13:40:15
I get told off at work for cranking up the stereo in my "office" music is meant to be loud, it sounds wrong quiet just not the same, whenever I had to look for a new house/flat I try to make sure it's at least semi detached and that the neighbours look like the type who can cope with top volume no means no throughout the night

I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

Jason Posted - 08/15/2004 : 11:56:17
The image of you going around measuring the ability to hear quiet detail of everyone you know is right amusing.

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Atheist4Catholics Posted - 08/15/2004 : 08:06:13
If you have tinnitus, stay away from aspirin because it makes it worse.

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BLT Posted - 08/15/2004 : 00:10:12
My hearing has decayed slightly in my right ear. I believe it's from listening to music at loud volume in my car for the past 20 years (when you sit on the left side of the car, the right ear takes the brunt of the sound).
Ebb Vicious Posted - 08/14/2004 : 16:32:33
i'll be 26 next month.

yes hearing damage is permanent, but actual hearing damage is hard to do for the average person.

if you are pete townshend and you are playing with the loudest rock band in history every couple days, then yeah, it's gonna happen pretty fast.

but unless you have a 12,000 watt stereo in your car, even listening to it at high volume on the way to work and on the way back is not going to cause permanent damage.

your ears will, however, adjust to the volume and then you may have trouble hearing detail at low volume levels. but this is temporary.

of course, each person is different as well, and will have different tolerances and resilliance.

i can hear more detail at quiet volume than anyone i know. i only go to rock concerts a couple times a year. i don't wear ear plugs, but because they're separated by months usually, it's not a problem.

tinnitus and loss of detail perception are two separate, though often related, things.
Jason Posted - 08/14/2004 : 13:05:25
This is like smoking. The damage happens over time. I used to like playing music really loud through my headphones, but then I read about tinnitus and realized that I have a mild case of it so I started turning the volume down a bit. Lots of musicians have tinnitus.

It's also easy to have damaged hearing and not know it. Hearing is different from the other senses. If your eyes are going bad, you'll know it because you can't read the newspaper anymore without glasses. If your hearing is deteriorating, the only clues you may have are other people telling you that your stereo or TV is turned up loud. To them, it's too loud. To you, it's a reasonable volume and you don't realize how loud it really is to those around you whose ears are in better shape.
Atheist4Catholics Posted - 08/14/2004 : 11:24:46
How old are you Ebb? The damage will show up later, I promise.

Actually, if you have no plans to be an audio professional, blast away. I on the other hand value my ears as part of my livlihood and wear earplugs at every show, on airplanes, on the subway, and even in the car during long road trips. I'm also one of those douche bags who covers his ears when an ambulance passes by.

The problem with ear damage is that it's permanent. If the tiny hair cells that pick-up vibrations in your ear are destroyed, they won't grow back.

Call me a pussy, but I find I can hear more detail at reasonable volumes than when I'm pushing the speakers, amp, and my ears to the limit. Your ears will actually close up in an attempt to protect your hearing, but can only stay closed for so long. I put headphones on and sit in a quiet room when I want to hear those subtle, satanic messages.

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VoVat Posted - 08/14/2004 : 10:06:36
I probably generally don't play music as loudly as a lot of my peers do. It depends on the song, though. There are some things that just need to be cranked up. I do have a bad habit of singing along (badly) with what I'm listening to, though, and I think that often bothers the people around me more than the music itself.



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fudd Posted - 08/14/2004 : 06:43:40
My mom used to yell at me to turn it down. Now my kids do.
frank_black_francis Posted - 08/14/2004 : 06:28:49
I would listen to music loud --screw the neighbors--except the 'Cult of Ray' concert left my ears ringing for 8 months. Then it was 2 years of loud rocking until Jon Spencer Blues Explosion came to town.....that made em ring for about 6 months. Then two years later, I insisted that the Melvins should be watched without earplugs (they wouldve wanted it that way - teardrop)....ouch, the ringing was so bad, I could understand why Van Gogh cut his ear off...now I wear earplugs to most concerts so that I can listen to music loud at home...I'd hate to have a noisy neighbor, and this is a case where the Golden Rule applies, I can play music loud and nobody else cant.
WolfManMikeLonely Posted - 08/13/2004 : 23:18:21
Same here, I like everything extremely loud and that bothers a lot of people. I just enjoy sounds and I want to hear every bit as clearly as possible. The odd thing is that for all the extremely loud music and playing in a band for years that practices way too loud and just plays too loud in general I still have pretty decent hearing, then again I reckon Pete Townsends ears held up for awhile too.

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glacial906 Posted - 08/13/2004 : 23:14:15
I like listening to music loud in the car especially, but I have to tone it down some when my daughter is in the back seat. Usually when my wife gets in the car after I've been driving it she's blown away by the level of whatever CD I have in the CD player.

But, all we have are factory speakers (6x9's). So if I have the volume up way loud I have to moderate the bass a bit or else I get some hellacious rattling.

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