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Newo Posted - 07/21/2004 : 08:32:20
Anybody like listening them and reading him? I heard Radiohead played a song live about hunting alligators in the sewers, which is Benny Profane´s job in V. Too, their fanclub W.A.S.T.E. is named after the underground postal service in The Crying Of Lot 49, and Karma Police seems to echo Takeshi and DL´s Karmic Adjustments service in Vineland. Off the top of my head that´s all comes to mind, but if anyone else got more that´d be cool.

-Owen
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Newo Posted - 07/23/2004 : 11:24:29
Yeah have been quiet of late, moved to Barcelona so everything was upended for a time. Pynchon I´d recommend starting on is his first, V. I have destroyed my copy from rereading so another is called for soon I´d think. (To younger readers or people who like genre fiction I recommend Vineland for starters). The one I´ve read the most is The Crying Of Lot 49, praps 30 times as it is small enough to fit in pocket. And as for Gravity´s Rainbow, eh, 1 1/2 times, am looking forward to many rereads, best I can describe it is is Ulysses by way of Dr. Strangelove. (tho Pynchon perhaps has a larger parking space in my heart because Joyce is admittedly lacking on the custard-pie fight end of things) Pynchon remarked he was so screwed up at the time he doesn´t even know what he meant by some of it, but like Apl4eris said, difficult at times but tremendous fun.

-Owen
TarTar Posted - 07/22/2004 : 02:04:27
Who the hell is Radiohead?

Inna zany combination of Wayne's Pet Youngin'!
Opaque Posted - 07/22/2004 : 01:50:21
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

The last album is very uneven (as always with Radiohead) but songs like There There are worth the entire album!



Oh.. don't even get me started on some Hail To The Thief. "There There" gives me shivers in a most intense way... that and "Where I End And You Begin" drives me wild. *WHEW* I love that song. Intensely.

"My primitive words match my primitive heart..." - Mercury Rev
The Holiday Son Posted - 07/22/2004 : 01:47:08
quote:
Originally posted by Newo

I heard Radiohead played a song live about hunting alligators in the sewers


It's a b-side called Fog and it's a brilliant song (and I'm far from being a Radiohead fan!)
I saw it live on TV and it was even better (just Thom singing and playing the piano).

The last album is very uneven (as always with Radiohead) but songs like There There are worth the entire album!
Opaque Posted - 07/22/2004 : 01:44:21
Apparently you can watch Radiohead TV online here:

http://www.radiohead.tv/fullscreen.html

With broadcasts at different times and all.

"My primitive words match my primitive heart..." - Mercury Rev
n/a Posted - 07/21/2004 : 11:47:04
I like the most part of the album and I'd reccomend the crying of lot 49

Frank Black ate my Hamster

apl4eris Posted - 07/21/2004 : 11:04:28
I love Radiohead, but the latest release was too random and unfocused. Some of the songs are so good it is very sad they ended up how they did. I think the producer has something to do with all that though. I hope they pick up steam again next time. I have noticed references to Pynchon, but not many, as I haven't read all of his stuff, or even near it. From HTTT, the lines in "Scatterbrain" are formed/inspired from "V".

Scatterbrain http://www.greenplastic.com/lyrics/rh_songs/scatterbrain.php

I'm walking out in a force ten gale.
birds thrown around, bullets for hail.
the roof is pulling off by its fingernails.
your voice is rapping on my window sill

yesterday's headlines blown by the wind.
yesterday's people end up scatterbrain.
then any fool can easy pick a hole. (I only wish I could fall in)
a moving target in a firing range.

somewhere I'm not
scatterbrain.
somewhere I'm not
scatterbrain.
lightning fuse
powercut.
scatterbrain

SONG INFORMATION
Released:
June 2003
Found on:
Hail to the Thief

This song was premiered in Lisbon, Portugal on July 22, 2002. The lyrics above come from a lyric sheet that Thom typed up for one of the Portugal/Spain 2002 shows. Also included on the lyric sheet are what appear to be extended lyrics:

somewhere I'm not in a force ten gale
swimming in an oil slick
pulled out by the tide
broke over lines, tonadoes eye.
going out o fmy mind, bad fucking vibess.
somewhere I cant hear this noise.
wildlife dying somewher with sunshine.
poisoned or poor no sharp pains or lumps.
a rare species being wiped out scattered far and wide.
eyes open him confused at a loss.
avoiding your gaze were the voices stop.
lightning fuse.
power cut.
on black ice, under floorboards.
just keeping afloat.
somewhwer Im not
just keeping afloat.
fingers dead in the ice
skin burning
watching the growths.
somewhere I cant
just change sides
bumper to bumper
nose to tail
always in my face
tv ariels bendt double, ina force ten gale.
watching someopne elses lights on the gangplank.
ive lost my train of thought, it happens all the time.
dont kno how old iam, tumbling down.
dont recognize us, thinking the wrong thoughts.
shoulkd maybe grow up
somwhere I dont give a fuck.
somwhere Im not under breaking oaks.
pulling up asphalt pulling up rocks.
the roots dig up the road
a blobk of ice
not in a rash doing bad dance.
more rain,sticking rain.
there used to be a field, now thers a lake.
somewhere im not, sandbagging.

Also included on the sheet is this quote from V, by Thomas Pynchon:

"It was one in the morning, a wind had risen and something curious too had happened; as if everyone in the city, simultaneously, had become sick of news of any kind; for thousands of newspaper pages blew through the small park on the way crosstown, blundered like pale bats against the trees, tangled themselves around the feet of Rooney and Rachel, and of a bum sleeping across the way. Millions of unread and useless words had come to a kind of life in Sheridan Square; while the two on the bench wove cross-talk of their own, oblivious, among them."

This alternate title for this song is "As Dead As Leaves."


I used to frequent www.greenplastic.com, and played some games on WASTE that were very fun.

Have read V, The Crying of Lot 49, and 3/4 of Gravity's Rainbow, over and over and over again. Someday I will finish it and grok a sentence or two in the process. It's difficult, a serious workout for me, but very enjoyable.
offerw Posted - 07/21/2004 : 09:50:31
Good to see you're back Owen. You went quiet for a while.

I've never read Pynchon so cannot comment but I'd like to read some. Where is a good place to start?

wilhelm

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