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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 11:07:52
Ok, so what's the deal with parental advisory labels on CDs?
Why are some printed on the CD cover, and some are only stickers outside the case? Does an embedded label mean it's more explicit? I don't like when it's printed on the cover.
Do these fucking labels even work? Some pre-teen kid was buying some awful rap CD at best buy the other day and his dad noticed the sticker. He pointed it out to his wife but the wife says, "It's alright. let him get it." And then she proceeded to buy it for him. Parental advisory should just be assumed on all rap albums (except maybe Will Smith). But why are some of my albums parental advisory when they only have 2 swear words and maybe a few indirect references to drugs and sex?
Maybe one family somewhere in America has successfully made use of these warning labels, but I don't see the use.
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/13/2004 : 19:10:19
Well, now 'Wave of Mutilation' has something in common with an Enimen CD so maybe little rap kids will buy the Pixies instead.
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| benji |
Posted - 07/13/2004 : 03:59:29
it seems pretty random regarding which cd's get it and which don't.
i'm sure there are rules, but they don't seem easily understandable in the slightest.
but yes the wave of mutilation comp has got such a sticker which is rather mind boggling....
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| VoVat |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 08:29:42
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Maybe because they're getting so realistic or something, whereas music doesn't get better graphics overtime.
What about enchanced CDs?
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| Jason |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 23:34:27
One prominent rap CD of recent years I can think of with no Advisory sticker is Kool Keith's Lost in Space, which indeed has no expletives on it. Which is weird considering what his other stuff is like, such as his porn-rap album Sex Style. But then he's all about being weird.
Outside the rap world, the sticker usually only ends up on major label releases. If it isn't something Wal-Mart might potentially carry, then it likely flies below any watchdog group's radar. Which is why Show Me Your Tears (or any Spinart release) wouldn't get one. I think a Nick Cave CD is the only non-rap album I have with the Advisory box on it.
Some towns -- usually small towns -- do have laws against selling albums with Parental Advisory notices to unaccompanied minors. So, good or bad, someone's making use of the sticker. |
| Skatealex1 |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 23:00:01
Its so gay the whole video game 18+ thing I read in a video game magazine that the rating companys are trying to get more stores to id anyone trying to be mature games
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 21:14:43
For some reason Best Buy now cards for video games that are rated +18. A thing will actually pop up when you scan it: "Is customers b-day on ...?"
Why it only does it for video games, I'm not sure. Maybe because they're getting so realistic or something, whereas music doesn't get better graphics overtime. (Music certainly is getting shittier)
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| rockmusic84 |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 20:49:24
I know how you feel, Derek. When I first started working at Best Buy I was a cashier. It was when Eminem's "The Eminem Show" album came out (2002). This little kid (and I mean little; he could barely see over the counter) came to the register and put the album on the counter and handed me the money. I looked to see if there was an adult with him, but he was alone.
I called my manager and asked if I should sell it, and she said that I could. I explained the situation further, saying that he was only a little kid, and she gave me some crap about how "Best Buy doesn't decide what's good or bad, and that we just sell the stuff, but we don't tell people if it's good or bad for them, etc...".
So needless to say, the kid got the C.D.. He must have only been 7 or 8 years old. I felt like shit for selling it to him (and the countless other people under 18 that I sold it to), but I just put it down to being one of those "Where were the parents?" situations.
On a more positive note, when I was working in the media dept. at Best Buy, an older lady came to me looking for D.V.D's. She was a school teacher (grade school, I think she said, can't quite remember). The D.V.D's she was looking for were South Park ones. I was a bit taken back by this, seeing as
Number 1: She was a woman
Number2: She was an older woman
and
Number 3: She was a school teacher.
But she said something that was extremely redeeming and made all the sense in the world. She said, "I love this show. It's so funny. It's too bad it get's a bad rap because kids watch it. But it's not South Park's fault, it's the kids' and the parents' fault. KIDS ARENT SUPPOSED TO WATCH THIS STUFF, THAT'S WHY THEY PUT IT ON LATE AT NIGHT." I literally wanted to give her a big hug for what she said, because it's so simple, but absolutely right and true. It's not about rules and regulations, or warning labels and disclaimers. It's about COMMON SENSE!!!
Now, if everyone thought like that, the world would be a smarter, safer, and overall better place. What it comes down to though, is some people just get it, and others, well...
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| TarTar |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 19:31:54
Ween have been given the parental advisory sticker several times when their record clearly didn't deserve one. "White Pepper" has one line on it that's vulgar ("sucking dicks under the promenade"), yet it was given the Parental Advisory sticker. Didn't "quebec" have one, too? I'm sure it did. There's only one line on "quebec" which is vulgar, ("I came in your mouth"). I think there is one "shit" on the album, too. I don't think that's nearly enough vulgarity and explicit content to earn a Parental Advisory sticker. I think it's just a given that Ween is offensive since their first 4 or 5 records were packed with profanity.
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| Malax |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:59:34
Yeah the wave thing confused me to. Specially considering that mcluskys do dallas album has the f-word from start to finish,including a song entitled fuck this band. But guess what? No sticker.I think it has alot to do with popularity. Who are mclusky? Kids don't need a warning cos its not a to the masses cd. Stupid
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| VoVat |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 16:35:20
So they picked the songs for Wave based on how dirty they were?
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 15:35:03
I too have seen the Pixies greatest hits CD with a parental advisory sticker. It confused me. But I guess a culmination of all the "dirty" songs warrants a PA sticker.
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| VoVat |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 15:30:07
That's such a good pastiche of those Religious Right reviews, it's scary. Nice work!
I think I've seen the "Wave of Mutilation" Pixies CD with an Parental Advisory sticker, yet I haven't seen one on any of the original Pixies albums. Kind of inconsistent, isn't it?
I actually seem to recall reading a review where someone wondered why Surfer Rosa didn't have an advisory slapped on it.
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 15:13:38
My fake Christian website review of Dog in the Sand
Dog in the Sand (2000) - Warning: Parental Advisory (for sex, violence, drug references, and language)
Right off the bat, this album implies dark images ("heading for the dark") and not ten seconds into the album Frank Black (his last name no doubt an ode to the Beast) manages to let out two "shits" in a row. In "St. Francis Dam Disaster" the lyrics metaphorically use water to say we should be reckless and careless in our lives and have sex with whomever we want, and whenever we want. The ex-Pixies frontman continues his satanic ritual in "Stupid Me" as he pratices "a black art." There is some redemptive value in this song as he prays his ex-lover finds true love.
"Llano Del Rio" blatantly states pearblossom will kill you just like possum. No doubt a reference to smoking weed. Perhaps the worse song on the album is "Hermaphroditos." Mr. Black tells the listener to worship him and his "mouth full of suicidal drugs." At least he condemns Eastern religious philosophy of the yin yang, but he innappropriately tells you to go fuck them.
The song "Dog in the Sand" suggests violent images of killing "it" with a shoe. Other songs talk about guns and riffles and sex.
We don't recommend letting your kids get ahold of this trash. Don't let the warped Catholicism of this band rub off on your children.
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| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 14:49:24
Some albums really don't deserve any sort of warning label though. I have an album (Year of the Rabbit) and it's parental advisory. I think the "F" word appears twice in one song, and maybe a "shit" in another song. The lyrics are pretty vague and there is nothing too "explicit" as far as drugs or sex. And there definitely isn't any violent imagery in the lyrics.
So, on these albums that don't suggest sex/drugs/violence, is it the context of curse words and how they are annunciated that causes an album to get a label? Because Frank says "fuck" once and "shit" twice on DiTS and there is no parental advisory. Though I imagine with an artist like Frank they don't worry about it because he isn't trendy and 13 year olds won't swarm FYE to pick up his latest album.
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| VoVat |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 14:30:44
Curse words don't necessarily indicate "explicit content." Some people seem not to know the difference, though.
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| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 13:43:21
On the way back from Chicago, we heard a "rock" station that had the worst radio edits. Imagine Limp Biscuit when you can't say F%&k, BullSH**, etc.?
They suck, but I wasn't allowed to play Pixies/FB anymore.
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| n/a |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 13:36:02
I think it was meant to be risque
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| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 13:17:44
no no no, youre talking about the sticky stuff they stick cds on to magazines with...im speaking of the mess left once a sticker (such as a parentla advisory) is peeled off.
Slightly more on topic...did any one ever understand the obsession with the posters made frm this sticker???
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
| n/a |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 13:13:11
but then you can roll it into a ball and stick it on someone and it looks like snot. The sticky bit I mean
My mum never minded me listening to guns n roses when i was a kid boot took great offence at terrorvisions how to make friends and influence people because it had the word shit in it.. that always mande me laugh
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| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 13:03:54
But then you got that horrible sticky bit? I think i dislike that more than the stickers themselves.
Just thought I'd throw that in there... |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 12:59:35
I don't like stickers on my CD's at all really. I near;y always peel them off.
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| El Barto |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 12:47:46
Ahh it's so ridiculous. Some albums with few swear words on them even have those labels...I think Nirvana's "Incesticide" has it. And yeah, it should be assumed on rap albums. It's implied. I can't wait till America is desensitized to profanity...moreso than it is now. It's fucking retarded.
On the subject of labels, have you seen the new FBI label on CDs? It's the most gaudy, godawful thing I've ever seen. A big ass label and BOLD print stating "FBI Anti-Piracy Warning: Unauthorized copying is punishable under federal law." Jesus Christ...it's on the newer CDs (Sonic Nurse has it). Do they actually think this is going to fucking change anything?
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| TheCroutonFuton |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 12:44:33
vs. Frank Zappa, Twisted Sister, John Denver, etc. etc. It was a big case. Of course, both sides "won". Artists weren't "censored" but they still had to put "warnings". Tipper Gore can go fuck herself, haha.
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| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 12:40:16
It all started with Tipper Gore (Al's wife) in the 80s vs. Frank Zappa. Tipper began a program calling for the censorship.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 11:10:00
Censorship gone mad I'm afraid. Well I suppose technically it's not censorship, but you know whatI mean.
To my knowledge though, I have only ever had stickers.
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