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| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 08:34:56
I'm going there for a few days. What's the best stuff to do besides the obvious museums, shopping? |
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| SpudBoy |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 20:07:11
Head to the Goose Island brewery in Chicago (1 block north of North Ave at Sheffield) to drink straight from the tap. They usually have a few excellent brews on tap in addition to the mediocre stuff they ship all over the place now.
*festoon* |
| floop |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 19:37:55
going to SheeeKaaaaago next week. friends and i are going to road trip from there to Germanfest in Milwaukee.
beer.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 16:41:22
Funny stuff. Poor liberals. Vote South Park. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:15:29
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris
I can't come to this thread anymore. It's making me damned homesick!
To be fair, its no Sunderland.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:14:53
OOPS! Sincere apology for that foot in mouth. Late in the day for me too.
Anyway, here's the onion article in its entirety:
WASHINGTON, DC—According to a study released Monday by the Hammond Political Research Group, many of the nation's liberals are suffering from a vastly diminished sense of outrage.
Above: Flauman has trouble mustering outrage over Republican policy.
"With so many right-wing shams to choose from, it's simply too daunting for the average, left-leaning citizen to maintain a sense of anger," said Rachel Neas, the study's director. "By our estimation, roughly 70 percent of liberals are experiencing some degree of lethargy resulting from a glut of civil-liberties abuses, education funding cuts, and exorbitant military expenditures."
San Francisco's Arthur Flauman is one liberal who has chosen to take a hiatus from his seething rage over Bush Administration policies.
"Every day, my friends send me e-mails exposing Bush's corrupt environmental policies," said Flauman, a member of both the Green Party and the Sierra Club. "I used to spend close to an hour following all the links, and I'd be shocked and outraged by the irreversible damage being done to our land. At some point, though, I got annoyed with the demanding tone of the e-mails. The Clear Skies Initiative is bogus, but I'm not going to forward a six-page e-mail to all my friends—especially one written by a man who signs his name 'Leaf.' Now, if a message's subject line contains the word 'Bush,' it goes straight into the trash."
Neas found that many survey participants who attended protests against the war in Iraq in 2003 could barely summon the energy to read newspaper articles about the subject in 2004.
Portland, OR resident Suzanne Marshal compared herself to an addict, needing increasingly large doses of perceived injustices to achieve a state of anger.
"Even though I know how seriously messed-up the situation is in Iraq, I've became inured to all but the most extreme levels of wrongdoing," Marshal said. "For months, no amount of civilian bombing could get me mad. Then those amazing photos of the tortured Iraqi prisoners hit the streets, and I got that old rush of overwhelming disgust with my government. Then more photos came out, and more officials were implicated, and now—I don't know. It's like a switch in my head turned off again."
Neas said that the danger of fatigue was greater among liberals who regularly seek cause for outrage.
"For a while, I wanted more fuel for the fire, to really get my blood boiling," said Madison, WI resident Dorothy Levine, a reproductive-rights activist and former Howard Dean campaign volunteer. "I read the policy papers on the Brookings web site. I subscribed to The Progressive. I clipped cartoons by Tom Tomorrow and Ted Rall. I listened to NPR all day. But then, it was like, while I was reading Molly Ivins' Bushwhacked, eight more must-read anti-Bush books came out. It was overwhelming. By the time they released Fahrenheit 9/11, I was too exhausted to drag myself to the theater."
"It used to be that I would turn on Pacifica Radio and be incensed at the top of every hour," Levine added. "Now, I could find out that Bush plans to execute every 10th citizen and I'd barely blink an eye, much less raise a finger."
Of the liberals afflicted with fatigue, many said they are still haunted by the specters of their former outrage.
"I can't even look at the back of my Volvo anymore," said one Syracuse, NY liberal who wished to remain anonymous. "My 'Lick Bush' and 'Four More Wars' bumper stickers just remind me of the angry feelings I can't sustain. I still have a MoveOn.org sign hanging up in my cubicle at work, but if someone starts to talk about Cheney, I can't take it. I'm like, 'Yes, we all hate Cheney. He's an evil puppet-master. Yes, Bush is dumb. This is obvious. How many times can we say it? Now, excuse me, will you let me through so I can microwave my burrito?'"
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So we've got our recruits and our green mohair suits, so please leave your ID at the door. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:11:26
Err, Kim, I can't open that link at work. I guess I should go home since it's 6pm here. Errr!!! No want go home. Errr. Errr. But must go home...no evil proxy server..errr...errr.
Anyway, don't say "schlepping" if you don't support the cause. (I'm really easy-going and tolerant, but lack sleep.) I usually don't say "errr" out loud or discuss politics either.
Your pal,
Bagel Girl
Save the whales, eat a shark. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 15:02:37
Oh, hell - we were just schlepping around hungover...happened to stumble across them.
Was incapable of agreeing or disagreeing that day. So many issues, so much bad shite going on I'm just tired - like this guy:
http://www.onion.com/news/index.php?issue=4027&n=3
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May the seed of your loin be fruitful in the belly of your woman. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 14:59:13
Ack, KimStanleyRobinson!
Can't agree with your anti-Israel demonstration pic! Well, I agree each group needs their own space and deserves it, but without bloodshed. First side who shoots loses. Otherwise, I support the democracy there.
Save the whales, eat a shark. |
| floop |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 09:50:33
that's a beautiful sight
img]http://www.loumalnatis.com/image/200.deepdish.jpg[/img]
die quesadillas von LBF lecken skrotum! hahahahahahahhahahaa! |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 08:32:20
I can't come to this thread anymore. It's making me damned homesick!
Agreed, some very nice pictures, pfeffa. Glad you guys had a good time. It's a lovely city if you don't live there. Well, if you don't live in the area we lived in. I hope you got a chance to drive/ride up and down Lake Shore Drive a few times. The view is impossibly beautiful -it made my heart ache -and Lake Michigan never looked the same from one day to the next, in the 5+ years I lived and worked there.
 RIP Little Bucharest: Yuppies. They don't eat goulash. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 08:08:36
Glad you got to go pfeff. One of my favorite things down near the end of Dearborn:
Good old fashioned war protest - downtown Chicago - day before Easter this year.
For apl: 
Oh, and a as far as pizza is concerned:
http://www.chicagos-pizza.com/
and of course,
http://www.loumalnatis.com/
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I'm a grit. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 19:11:34
Thanks, I'm trying to get back to creating art again. It's been awhile. |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 19:08:10
It's not just the paint (but I bet there is a lot of lead in there). It's also the craggy steps and the dog has the look of dogs that wander many streets throughout the world (except he looks well fed and has the collar). Nice pictures |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:55:06
Thanks, darwin. That was outside of a skate shop. I didn't notice how bad the paint was.
get your freon bingo here |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:42:33
Pfeffa,
I like the shot of the dog. I would never guess that's a shot from the US, except maybe for the collar. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:11:38
Floop,
Yes, I took those pics. I took about 200 more, too, but these were my favorites. The houses are all in the Oak Park district around the Frank Lloyd Wright home and studio. Let me know if you want any details or directions.
get your freon bingo here |
| floop |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:08:24
did you take those pictures pfeffa? nice. (what's that house in the bottom right?)
i might be going there in a few weeks to visit friends. still haven't decided.
die quesadillas von LBF lecken skrotum! hahahahahahahhahahaa! |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 18:00:21
Gee, I guess that was a long post. If you just want to see some pics, I posted them here:
http://www.dataminded.com/chicago/ |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/11/2004 : 07:45:38
I just got back last night. It was a fun trip and we didn't do any lame touristy stuff, thanks to everyone's great ideas.
I took so many pictures, I'll have to make a Chicago tribute photo page on my website. We walked 7-8 hours every day and saw some really different stuff. I picked up The Reader, too, but we did not go to any clubs.
I'll just give the highlights:
Wed night: stayed in an apartment-sized hotel room (great deal on Expedia) at the Belden-Stratford across from Lincoln Park. That evening, we explored the Belmont/N Clark area. There was a cool comic book store (Chicago Comics) on N Clark. Belmont Army Surplus was very Urban Outfitters with a skate shop. They had cute t-shirts. "The Alley" was creepy and too leathery and Taboo Taboo was lame. There were a LOT of shoe boutiques. We had dinner at an awesome Thai restaurant on Belmont, then drove downtown and I took night photos of the Commerce area.
Thurs: Lincoln Park Zoo (hey, it was free), then walked all over the area for two hours. There were more shoe boutiques in the N Division area and lots of artsy places. Walked and took photos all around there, then had lunch at a good Mexican-Guatemalan restaurant (Rudy's Place). Dude got a "jibarito"--a steak sandwich that has roasted, flattened plantains as the bread. It was really yummy.
We hit some foo-foo stores on Oak, then moved to the Burnham Hotel on Washington and State, which is also really nice. We finally ate pizza at Giordano's after walking three miles because *someone* did not trust my sense of direction.
Friday: I dragged Dude to Luke's on Jackson (which was next to Giordano's). I had the Italian Beef. He had a meatball sub WITH HOT. (I'm a weenie and avoid peppers.) Took the subway and got off at Chicago to shop, but walked all the way to OLD TOWN because *someone* did not believe my innate Bloomies radar. Old Town is a cool area, very much like German Village in Columbus. We walked back to the Miracle Mile and went into every store. Everything was either affordable and boring, or $6000 and ridiculous. (I think I'm becoming a Buddhist right now.) We hit Bloomingdales, Neiman Marcus, Saks, plus every skate shop along the way. We ate dinner at the Park Grill in Millenium Park.
Saturday: We went to a cool skate shop on Milwaukee that had the Nike Barcelona Futbol Club shoes Dude wanted. Then the rest of the day was "The Frank Lloyd Wright Day". We walked around and saw all of his houses in the Oak Park area. I realized that I really prefer Victorian architecture, but it was awesome to see 100 year old homes that still look very "contemporary".
We never found the Thai place apl and Spud mentioned, but there were a ton of great places to eat. I'm so glad I wallked my a$$ off to make up for the calories I consumed!
I had fun. Mapquest lies. I can't believe I have to go back to work tomorrow.
get your freon bingo here |
| TarTar |
Posted - 07/07/2004 : 12:06:00
This is what there is to do in Chi town. Get on I-94, head East for about 2 and a half hours. When you see the exit for 131, get on that and go North towards Grand Rapids for a few minutes. When you get the exit that says Kalamazoo, get off onto Stadium Drive and hell, you're practically in my backyard at that point.
"There is a new craze in the nation/ it is lamination/ we like to laminate/ we laminate our driver's license/ so cannot be changed" |
| floop |
Posted - 07/07/2004 : 01:17:27
quote:
Originally posted by Minky303
god bless las vegas
indeed. |
| Minky303 |
Posted - 07/07/2004 : 00:28:13
god bless las vegas |
| floop |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 21:55:50
have fun.
last call in Chicago bars is 4am. now that's a city i can respect. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 21:21:01
This should be a good trip...leaving tomorrow morning.
get your freon bingo here |
| floop |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 21:09:34
apl- Giordano's! that's it. went there twice. yum. |
| SpudBoy |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 20:09:53
Gino's East moved locations and reports from the field suggest a dramatic slacking in quality (and graffiti). You have been warned.
EDIT: Oh yeah and if you're a meateater and happen to be down by the Chicago Board of Trade/Sears Tower go to Luke's sandwich shop (On Jackson 1/2 block west of Wells) and order the Italian Beef, dipped, with hot on the side. Cheese is optional. Total Chicago sandwich. Freaking awesome. Man I want one now. Shit.
*festoon* |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 20:05:51
Yeah, lived there for a little over 5 years.
floop - is it Gino's East http://www.ginoseast.com/ you're thinking of? Or Giordano's http://www.giordanos.com/ ? Gino's was an awesome place to go -the grafitti (mostly in white) all over the place, and holes in the walls -true grit. Oh, and very decent pizza, but seemed more about the experience than the pizza. Giordano's wasn't my fave - they used to rock, but then they changed their crust recipe, and it was too oily and heavy/hard, and their sauce lost all of its complexity. blech!
Pizza Bubamara http://centerstagechicago.com/restaurants/pizza-bubamara.html
Eduardo's is very good for deep dish spinach pizza, as SpudBoy said. Gino's East is good too, but I don't know why it gets top billing most of the time.
RIP Little Bucharest: Yuppies. They don't eat goulash. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 16:11:10
Sweet! Sweet! Thank you all so much!
Apl, I didnt' know you were from there.
get your freon bingo here |
| floop |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 16:03:42
i can't remember the name of the Pizza place we went to (i'll find out) but my friends in Chicago say it's the best. i'll try and find out. and i'd be curious to see what apl and spudboy think.
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| apl4eris |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:54:17
OH! and La Creperie
2845 N. Clark St.
http://centerstage.net/restaurants/la-creperie.html - I have been missing the hell out of that place.
If it's nice weather, try a brunch outside in the back. It's wonderful, and the crepes are perfect and delicious. I recommend the seafood crepe.
RIP Little Bucharest: Yuppies. They don't eat goulash. |
| frank_black_francis |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:50:19
Might I suggest renting "Ferris Bueller's Day Off".... |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:45:17
Oh yeah -that Clark and Belmont area -there is a cigar shop (maybe still there) attached to the conglomeration of stores annexed by the Alley. It was called Blue Havana, and was very nice.
Some stuff coming back to me. I am getting really nostalgic now.
Duke of Perth (nice Irish pub, and very good food) on Clark 2 or 3 blocks south of Belmont
Smart Bar -under Metro (Clark 2 blocks north of Wrigley) if you check the schedule, sometimes they have good DJ nights (Scary Lady Sarah and such)
And coffee shops/diners:
Golden Pancake House (at Broadway and Racine - next to the Riviera, where Devo will be playing this fall!)
Salt and Pepper diner (2 of them: one is on Lincoln, more accessible one is two blocks south of Wrigley on Clark)
Golden Apple at Lincoln and Sheffield
Pick me up Cafe at Clark, 2 blocks north of Belmont (just north of the el tracks)
If you like plants -the Lincoln Park Conservatory is amazing! The fern room is worth the trip alone!
RIP Little Bucharest: Yuppies. They don't eat goulash. |
| SpudBoy |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 13:06:04
As for the pizza, don't fuck around. Go to Edwardo's and get the deep dish spinach pizza. best in the city, of that class. Also a favorite, different animal: Pizza Bubamara - never been inside (hell, never even seen the place) but the delivery menu has cherries, octopus, feta cheese, just about anything you want. They're nice enough that they would probably go to the store for ingredients off the menu. Best Thai food: Roong Petch. Still get cravings for the Phad Thai and it's been over 2 years since we moved away.
Clark and Belmont is ok, but have been seriously fad-commercialized by the Alley and related stores. Good prices, crappy stuff. As apl said, wicker park used to be a juggernaut of culture, some might still exist. Go to North and Milwaukee to find out (Damen blue line stop by train). Earwax is just south of that intersection on Milwaukee. Reckless Records should be a few doors further south.
The clubs on gothicchicago.com vary widely in style and enjoyability, depending on two things: what you're into and what night it is. Neo, Exit and Smart Bar can be fun, but it depends on the night. Exit is probably the most reliable for punk/industrial, as an example. Ask around or call ahead.
Have fun, don't give money to bums, keep an eye on your belongings, and watch your back.
*festoon* |
| The Calistanian |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 12:28:45
Head to the top of the Sears Tower. There is where you can see Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and Texas, or something, all at the same time.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
| pfeffa |
Posted - 07/06/2004 : 12:21:27
cool, I forgot about the pizza
get your freon bingo here |
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