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| Malax |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 09:38:34
I'd like to know why the retard post was locked? Deleted I can understand but to leave it there for people to keep being 'offended' just says to me "Im a mod look what I can do". Why does it matter? Retard is a broad term, the thread was not picking on a particular set of people. Its harmless. I had a friend who was a retard he was normal but he was a retard its hard to explain. I was always interested if he knew he was one.
Why is this worse than starting a thread entitled "I hate....."
Are there any farmers on here? Any gay people? Any black people? Any retards? Any girls? Any nerds? Any religious people?
Is there an odd one out?
DONT CENSOR ME! 
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| TheCroutonFuton |
Posted - 06/21/2004 : 17:13:07
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123199,00.html
June 21, 2004
That's Just So ...
The New York Daily News' Lloyd Grove reports that teen actress Lindsay Lohan (search) is in trouble with advocates for the mentally disabled for her wanton use of the term "retarded" to describe something ridiculous or absurd.
The starlet was informed by the ARC of the United States, a group that claims to be "the nation's largest group devoted to issues concerning people with mental retardation and related developmental disabilities," that "there are few more deeply wounding words than these, which are painful reminders that people with disabilities are still not fully welcome in our society."
Lohan has used the expression for everything from rumors of breast implants ("That's retarded") to a spat with Hilary Duff (search) ("retarded") to an unpleasant encounter with paparazzi ("So retarded!").
That's retarded. 
Hahaha...sorry, it was just sitting there waiting for me.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
| Erebus |
Posted - 06/21/2004 : 17:02:24
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123199,00.html
June 21, 2004
That's Just So ...
The New York Daily News' Lloyd Grove reports that teen actress Lindsay Lohan (search) is in trouble with advocates for the mentally disabled for her wanton use of the term "retarded" to describe something ridiculous or absurd.
The starlet was informed by the ARC of the United States, a group that claims to be "the nation's largest group devoted to issues concerning people with mental retardation and related developmental disabilities," that "there are few more deeply wounding words than these, which are painful reminders that people with disabilities are still not fully welcome in our society."
Lohan has used the expression for everything from rumors of breast implants ("That's retarded") to a spat with Hilary Duff (search) ("retarded") to an unpleasant encounter with paparazzi ("So retarded!").
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| Malax |
Posted - 06/18/2004 : 09:59:06
You never knew this?
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/18/2004 : 02:31:46
You put racist literature on the internet!? You sell child porn!?
Sicko!
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
| Malax |
Posted - 06/16/2004 : 17:09:33
Im also tired so I can't be bothered contesting this anymore.
BUT
The internet is one of the very few places you can practice freedom of speech. I couldn't put out a racist newsletter or broadcast my hatred in public cos it just wouldn't work. Like trying to sell child porn on the street, cant be done, but on here it can. Here Im pretty much free to write whatever I like. Wether it be here or on a personal website.
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 06/16/2004 : 07:33:49
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
I think the thing that perhaps needs to be considered, to be fair, is what I think Mel was getting at. If a 'retard' came on here and saw that topic, they would probably be pretty upset. More so than someone coming on here and finding someone taking the piss out of their favourite band/film etc. If people really wanted to take the piss out of 'retards', they could create their own website. This is someone else's website and they can do what they like with it. Simple as. Like it or lump it.
Listen to Nine Black Alps.
I thank you. The man knows what im talking about.
It wasnt unnessesasary slur any way. you had tried my patience. I got fed up, and anyway, as i said, not every post has to contribute something positive, but a conduct yourself in the same manner you wuld in real life. you wouldnt go screaming down the streets about retards, would you?
And yeah, any way, a internet forum isnt really the place to preach freedom of speech. heh. Especially one like this. I mean if a kid who loved westlife came on here, and started going on about west life, wed slaughter them. simple as. its a very specific site
Ive actually lost the point i was going to make., it may be under the table. im tired.
I bet you never thought your movie would turn out this way
You crossed the other way, youd hope i wouldnt see you, you say youre doing fine, but thats not what it looks like, your undercovers on...
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| The Calistanian |
Posted - 06/16/2004 : 06:33:14
That was a pretty good one Tre.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
| This_Guy |
Posted - 06/16/2004 : 00:04:59
quote:
Originally posted by Tre
maniacal kitty bum-fucker
ladies an gents.....my new band name. |
| The Calistanian |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:27:24
Seriously, I don't think it's that big of an issue.
I mean, the "What are you eating right now?" thread is a much more timely topic.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:21:51
hmmm mocking me you are now hmmm? I just didn't see where anything offensive was in the original thread, it wasn't saying that the individuals in question were funny or stupid or sub standard, and if it was so offensive then why leave it there in full view of anyone who can be offended by it? I can understand why people feel the need to stop a line of conversation that is getting nasty. I'm just not sure that I agree with the way the whole thing was handled. ... but is not my website...
can't get into anything these days. Always on the peripheral. Always terrified, exhausted, annoyed, pissed, anxious, out of it-out of the loop, out of my mind, out of time.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:11:27
I think the thing that perhaps needs to be considered, to be fair, is what I think Mel was getting at. If a 'retard' came on here and saw that topic, they would probably be pretty upset. More so than someone coming on here and finding someone taking the piss out of their favourite band/film etc. If people really wanted to take the piss out of 'retards', they could create their own website. This is someone else's website and they can do what they like with it. Simple as. Like it or lump it.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:09:20
I want to rage rage rage against the dying of the light.....
or I at least reserve the right to grump a bit
and all threads have the potential to be ugly.. you could start a how cute are kittens thread and have some maniacal kitty bum-fucker post all sorts of nasty porny dirty wrongness. The thread was obvious in it's title, it said the word RETARD in it, which if people find offensive they shouldn't read the darned thread and upset their heads! As simple as! |
| The Calistanian |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:05:01
Heh, an internet forum is the last place I would go if I was concerned about exercising my freedom of speech to the full...typed dialogue is too restraining.
Plus, I don't think COF had the whole issue of "freedom of speech" in mind when locking the topic, he was just eliminating a potentially ugly thread, which is what moderators have a right to do.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:04:43
Let go of your hate Luke.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:02:05
I hate cotton wool. And censorship and war. And the new fanta man. he totally sucks. I hate UKIP and I hate pretentiousness and ignorance I hate assumption and I hate having other peoples ideology forced onto me. I hate people deciding what I can and cannot hear, I hate people deciding what will be offensive to me. Westlife offend me. Paegent queen mothers offend me. Stupidity and banality offend me. Gee I hate lots of stuff.
can't get into anything these days. Always on the peripheral. Always terrified, exhausted, annoyed, pissed, anxious, out of it-out of the loop, out of my mind, out of time.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 13:48:31
I hate adverts.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 13:47:21
ya ya ya
wrap me up in cotton wool, give me a crown of marshmallows tell me lovely things then set me loose
bah humbug to censorship. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 13:43:16
Another rubbish advert.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 13:25:49
you don't have to pay to talk anymore
can't get into anything these days. Always on the peripheral. Always terrified, exhausted, annoyed, pissed, anxious, out of it-out of the loop, out of my mind, out of time.
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| Malax |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 11:30:49
What I read:
not necessarily every post contributes something positive no, but again, i was referring to using a little common sense, UNECESSARY PERSONAL SLUR.
Look I start a post about 'freedom of speech' and it starts an argument. tsk tsk
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 06:47:04
not necessarily every post contributes something positive no, but again, i was referring to using a little common sense, which you seem to be incapable of.
In The End We Will Look Back And Laugh
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| Malax |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 06:44:30
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath
I agree with CoF. It wasnt going to contribute any thing positive towards the forum, rather it was going to create negative feelings, and arguements
Ha sorry that just made me laugh. To think that most of the posts do contribute something positive and don't create some form of negative feeling and or argument, is like eating dvds, it don't taste like cake.
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| GypsyDeath |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 06:39:51
Not so much freedom of speech being the issue, but common sense.
I was very taken back by the 'retard' post...I am admittedly incredibly PC (in most cases..)
This is an open forum where everyone should feel welcome. It may not have started as a offensive post, but it soon escalated to one.
Obviously people shouldnt feel that they need to be typing on eggshells, as it were, but using a little common sense to not out rightly offend minority groups.
Clearly there are minorities no matter what, but as i said, just a little common sense and intelligence.
I agree with CoF. It wasnt going to contribute any thing positive towards the forum, rather it was going to create negative feelings, and arguements
In The End We Will Look Back And Laugh
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| This_Guy |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 05:35:49
quote:
Originally posted by fudd
quote:
Originally posted by This_Guy
freedom is illusory anyway.
Not even that, it is blatantly restricted. For instance there are substances I am not allowed to ingest, and others that I can't buy without a permission slip from a member of an elite class.
i was thinking more in the sense that we are owned and maipulated by faceless corporations and have lost touch so compeletely with self identity that freedom is just a buzz word used to describe the right to purchase material forced upon us.
now that right there is a prize winning run on scentence. |
| fudd |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 05:29:44
quote:
Originally posted by This_Guy
freedom is illusory anyway.
Not even that, it is blatantly restricted. For instance there are substances I am not allowed to ingest, and others that I can't buy without a permission slip from a member of an elite class. |
| This_Guy |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 01:14:10
hey i see what you did there, very clever.
your parents must be proud. |
| TarTar |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 01:10:41
Hey, This Guy. Where's your evil twin, That Guy?
"You gotta watch the mota, Thurston. Yr fuckin memory just goes out the window." |
| This_Guy |
Posted - 06/15/2004 : 01:06:42
freedom is illusory anyway. |
| Malax |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 17:30:41
Har har. Im lost in a web of sarcasm and twisted humour. Its of my own creation.
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 15:21:15
How do you know he is mainstream? You think he's Bernard Matthews.
She said "I'm a virgin" I said "Which version"? |
| Malax |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 15:12:11
He the guy who makes the ham?
*->(not the mainstream ones so much)<-*
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna* |
| BLT |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 15:11:29
To paraphrase cheeseman and DEVO...
Freedom of speech is what you got
Freedom from speech is what you want |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 13:55:17
quote:
Originally posted by Malax
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Society is reflected closely here. Comedians make jokes about disabled people alot (not the mainstream ones so much) but they won't make jokes about the 'colourly challenged' or 'ass farmers'.
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
*Adapted By Carolynanna*
You never heard Bernard Manning?
She said "I'm a virgin" I said "Which version"? |
| cvanepps |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 13:25:35
Besides, the server this content is a part of is physically located in Canada, where there is no constitution to amend. 
Just kidding, obviously.
-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
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| frank_black_francis |
Posted - 06/14/2004 : 13:04:12
I had the impression that the forum's General Chat that said, 'talk about anything else here' meant we could wonder aloud without fear of being shunned....well, well, apparently not! oh well. who cares. |
