| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 03/01/2004 : 11:00:49
A couple of people here mentioned some of my art had racist overtones. Do you feel the maltese cross or cross like West Coast Choppers uses is racist? I carved the ring below last week. One of my friends just asked me if it was a German cross. I think it's a maltese cross and has nothing to do with racism but I really am interested in how other people feel about it. Check it out and please let me know what you think.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2693810334&category=11318 |
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| Slick |
Posted - 05/23/2004 : 18:15:09
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
your ideas are as important to you as Mine are to the masses and you have every right to think and express them.
That is really deep. |
| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 04/26/2004 : 10:33:45
I've made a swastikas rings. Was pretty uncomfortable with it but but made good money on them. I wouldn't wear one but I do wear the maltese cross and throw lightning bolts on stuff occassionaly (I LOVE the way lightning bolts look) A long time ago I got some grief from friends about the lightning blots so I switched to thunderbolts. Then someone said they were rascist, german, WHATEVER too. So F-it. I've NEVER bothered anyone (or really cared) about the way they dress or any symblol thay may wear. I'm a live and let live kind of guy that believes in free speech. (sometimes a hard concept for people of other than American ancestry to comprehend)
Although more noteworthy than most, your ideas are as important to you as Mine are to the masses and you have every right to think and express them. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 13:54:06
Is that like Dumb And Dumber??? I'll look out for it!!!
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 13:49:07
Nerd and Nerdier
 "I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens" |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 12:38:10
Hmmm!!! Interesting!!!
Mine's Predator!!!
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| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 12:26:50
2001: space odyssey.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 12:20:05
What is then??? Pray tell!!!
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| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 11:16:04
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Q. How do you make a Maltese Cross?
A. Stamp on his foot.
"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens"
hahaha! i was just reading through this wondering why it was still being replied too... being slightly confused... spotting a poster of my fave movie... and then that comment! lol!
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Nazi Love Camp is your favourite movie!?!?!?
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
not of all time...
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| LadyViper007 |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 10:51:35
Yes you can use this as a "canned response", and no you do not have to credit me. Yes, I am a Lady...and no I am not a fan of skulls. To the person that stated I signed up just to reply to this topic, you are absolutely right! Sometimes I just can't let sh*t go!
"Work is a necessary evil to be avoided."
-Mark Twain |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/25/2004 : 02:52:48
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Q. How do you make a Maltese Cross?
A. Stamp on his foot.
"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens"
hahaha! i was just reading through this wondering why it was still being replied too... being slightly confused... spotting a poster of my fave movie... and then that comment! lol!
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Nazi Love Camp is your favourite movie!?!?!?
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 04/24/2004 : 21:29:51
I SWEAR I don't have a clue who LadyViper is but I'm really stoked on the info!!!!
LadyViper do I have to credit you if I use that explaination as one of my canned responses for when people accuse me of making rascist jewelry?Two questions for you.
1. Are you a lady?
2. Do you like skulls? |
| ShakeyShake |
Posted - 04/24/2004 : 12:40:30
Wow we got people signing up just to reply to this topic......
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away |
| bumblebeeboy2 |
Posted - 04/24/2004 : 12:32:17
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Q. How do you make a Maltese Cross?
A. Stamp on his foot.
"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens"
hahaha! i was just reading through this wondering why it was still being replied too... being slightly confused... spotting a poster of my fave movie... and then that comment! lol!
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 04/24/2004 : 06:42:56
Q. How do you make a Maltese Cross?
A. Stamp on his foot.
"I joined the Cult Of Joey and Iggy/Cos they can hypnotise chickens" |
| LadyViper007 |
Posted - 04/24/2004 : 06:00:07
The Maltese Cross was is meant to be a heroic symbol not a racist symbol. That is why it is a medal for firefighters, and other such organizations. The cross is named the Maltese Cross because of a war that started against (pre-islamic Syrian-Arabians) Saracens people for the Holy Land nearly 4 centuries ago. The Saracens used glass bombs with a highly flammable liquid called naptha in them. They would throw the bombs and cover the knights and use a flaming torch to set them on fire. The other knights, trying to save their fellow man, made heroic attempts to save them from the fire. At the end of the war they surviving knights were awarded with a medal of honor, which was the Maltese Cross. The Knights of St John were from the island of Malta, and rightfully named the first firefighters. You can read about them on the net, just search the Knights of St John, or Knights of Malta. So, in Maddawg's defense, I do not believe it is a racial symbol either. You want communism and prejudice....get married.
"Work is a necessary evil to be avoided."
-Mark Twain |
| kirkclark |
Posted - 03/31/2004 : 15:25:17
heres some history for ya;
Since the Knights of Saint John became bound by the Augustinian rule which involved monastic vows of chastity, poverty and obedience the Knights are also expected to observe the eight obligations represented by the symbol of the eight-pointed cross. The Knights of Saint John are now know as the Knights of Malta and the eight-pointed cross became known as the Maltese cross.
The eight obligations are the Beatitudes given in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:3-10) were to:
1)Live in truth 2)Have faith 3)Repent of sins 4)Proof of humility
5)Love justice 6)Be merciful 7)Be sincere and whole-hearted
8) Endure persecution
The German award the Iron Cross is perhaps the most well known and historically significant use of the eight pointed cross . Its tradition began when, in 1813, King Friedrich Wilheim III of Prussia first instituted it during the War of Liberation against Napoleon. Though it was supposed to be a campaign medal, it was reinstituted in 1870 for the Franco-Prussian War, and again in 1914 for World War I. The defeat of Germany in that war did not diminish military pride in the long term, and the Cross continued to be a symbol of prestige in the inter-war years.
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| Slick |
Posted - 03/27/2004 : 17:37:30
quote:
Originally posted by astrology
Americans did not win WW2, Russians bore the heavy weight, and about the french they were in a kind of covert civil war as there was an interest of some extreme-right groups to have a nazi regime
Oh My God, they've taught an ape to type!!! |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 14:56:28
Come off it, you were in it. You're either Carl Sisti, Robert Post or Mike Morris. 
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| floop |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 14:53:05
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
No but it looks pretty bloody sexist. Is that a film?
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
i agree as well. i haven't seen the film.. i just wanted to be a part of the discussion. |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 14:31:22
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
No but it looks pretty bloody sexist.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
I agree!!! |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 14:25:34
No but it looks pretty bloody sexist. Is that a film?
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
| floop |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 14:05:11
is this poster racist?
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| Slick |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 13:52:50
maybe someone can show some of these peabrains what real racist symbols look like. |
| Gratefuljason3 |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 12:40:37
That's not a cross. It's a T, for tolerance. |
| MOY DO DIR |
Posted - 03/18/2004 : 11:23:37
Cool skulls Mad Dawg! Great jewelry. I would buy. Don't listen to these ass holes. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/13/2004 : 06:10:25
Yeah but was he an angry strawberry like this one. 
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| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 22:01:59
quote:
Originally posted by jujube
you sold a mediocre rap-metal album in the 90's after you saw Rage Against The Machine and thought this works, let's do this. I pity you, Mad Dawg. I really do.
Actually JuJuBe I was in the first punk band to sell out a major venue in Los Angeles. Once when I needed money I produced some rap demos for a baseball player nemed Daryl Strawberry and his friend Richie Rich. I was pretty imprssed that I would be meeting Richie Rich untill I found out he was not the guy from the cartoon. He got a record deal with the demos and a got a HUGE bonus. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 10:55:09
UGGH!!! Rap metal!?!?!?
What a horrid combination. 
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| jujube |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 03:26:46
I am soooo disappointed in you, Mad dawg. At first I thought you were a funny, clever guy, but you're just the kind of american who make people want to hate you and your country. Thankfully I know you're a just a pitiful exception. You probably went and spilled french wine during your glorious War in Irak Part II. Stupid sheep. You suck, Mad Dawg. And don't go and say Oh what did you do noteworthy in your life, just because you maybe recorded and sold a mediocre rap-metal album in the 90's after you saw Rage Against The Machine and thought this works, let's do this. I pity you, Mad Dawg. I really do. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 03/10/2004 : 15:23:57
The cross was a Roman method of execution, not Jewish. The traditional Jewish method was stoning. Sorry if this is a bit morbid, but you know what happens when one person gets something wrong... It snowballs and snowballs and some chimp gets elected.
 "Join the cult of scone/And succumb to the power of the cream tea" |
| astrology |
Posted - 03/10/2004 : 15:10:53
world will be a safer world the day tha an association of "american veteran of local wars" is set up
the cross is not nazi, the cross was a jewish mode of execution, dont know if they invented it possibly not, looks similar to celtic crosses and it was used by the germans of the hansa.
Americans did not win WW2, Russians bore the heavy weight, and about the french they were in a kind of covert civil war as there was an interest of some extreme-right groups to have a nazi regime
the ring is horrible, someone can get drowned if "it" tries to swim with it
true blue
i joined teh Blue oyster Cult
I 've found no pearl
but dig those toxines.... |
| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 12:36:20
Gracie did you look at the links? They use crosses like the ones I make as their symbol. I just posted a couple to make my detractors look/feel stupid. I could post DOZENS of similar links to Patriotic Americans that use the same cross featured in much of my jewelry as their symbol.
Nazis EVERYWHERE!
www.vfw.org
www.iaff.org |
| gracie |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 01:15:16
[quote]Originally posted by Mad Dawg
If you like I can provide you with MANY more links to racist that use similar crosses as their symbol.
Mad Dawg, why do you know these racist websites? do you use them as inspiration? i though the idea of your orginal post, (apart from to advertise your rings) was to ascertain whether people found them to be offensive. By showing us websites who use the crosses as a racist symbol you are just proving that they do have racist overtones.
Do you want us to think that you are a racist? as it really won't boost your sales, not on this site anyway. |
| mun chien andalusia |
Posted - 03/04/2004 : 06:28:43
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Lucy (Lusia?)You're lucky your in med school over there. I'm pretty sure you couldn't cut it here. Besides thinking backwards you play with the computer too much. You better study. Your Mommy and Daddy will be very upset if they spent all their money and you don't pass.
buahahahahahahahaha......the only thing that is sure is that YOU wouldn't enter a university even if your paid with your hard earned money.too many liberals in there they would never admit their inferiority to a true american genious.not to mention that you keep giving proof that your IQ is a bit lower than the IQ of a boiled egg.keep up with your mind stimulating posts and your redneck arrogance.that's the last reply that you'll get from me.
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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| Mad Dawg |
Posted - 03/04/2004 : 00:52:25
Adnan and Andalusia, bash the firefighters and Vets in the secret nazi links above if you want to make a difference. I am just the little guy. They spread the evils of that cross image to more eyes in a day than I will in a lifetime!!!
If you like I can provide you with MANY more links to racist that use similar crosses as their symbol.
Lucy (Lusia?)You're lucky your in med school over there. I'm pretty sure you couldn't cut it here. Besides thinking backwards you play with the computer too much. You better study. Your Mommy and Daddy will be very upset if they spent all their money and you don't pass. |
