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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 17:25:54
The following questions are directed at those living in a country with Universal Health Care.
1) Are you satisfied with how your country's system is set up?
1a) Do you think it's a fair system? Do you think the people in charge of it are competent?
2) Do you have older relatives/friends and are they satisfied with their experiences?
3) If you could have the current U.S. system replace yours, would you?
The few Canadians I've spoken to, in the 20-30 age range have all seemed pleased with their system. A common criticism of socialized medicine (perhaps the most common) I've heard is that there are long waits for treatment and the quality of said treatment can be poor and that some wealthier Canadians will pay for their own treatment to get better care.
I thought I'd toss the questions out here and see what happens.
Thanks. |
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Posted - 11/09/2012 : 09:19:43
Yes hemp is the most versatile, nutritious, sustainable plant we know about. It has almost exactly the correct balance of fatty acids required for a healthy diet, closer than any other source and contains every amino acid required to sustain human life.
On top of that it's very very good for the soil unlike a lot of modern agriculture that is heavily dependent upon upon fertiliser that is derived from fossil fuels, which depletes the soil and eventually makes farming on the land dependant upon them.
The first ever car, the ford model T was built from hemp and ran on hemp, until the oil industry began to lobby against it. So they are largely responsible for the fact cannabis is illegal today.
Crazy to think that even hemp is illegal to cultivate in America these days. The powers at be just can't be told though, it's utter madness, especially when you consider that everyone and everything would benefit from both cannabis and hemp being legal.
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 09:12:38
Interesting. If it's legal, I'm assuming the quality would go up. You'd think the taxable income alone would have it be legal. If it wasn't for the profit to be had keeping it illegal. Doesn't hemp have a lot of uses as well. I'm really not that knowledgeable about marijuana, but think it should be legal on the basis of adults having the right to ingest what they choose, etc. as long as they're not harming anyone else. I've known quite a few people over the years who use it socially.
I think pot will eventually be legal. |
| pot |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 08:53:36
The problem is armx3 is that it's illegal which results in a reduction in the quality people are using. It's all about the balance of compounds in the plant, too high THC can had an adverse effect in some people, and that's what is happening with a lot of the cannabis being produced at the moment. It's too high in THC and not enough CBD, the anti-psychotic compound, to balance out the effect of the THC.
These negative effects are being researched and published as evidence that it's bad for you without acknowledging the full picture. very convenient for the governments with their war on drugs.
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 08:48:49
I think marijuana should be legal, and I certainly don't think people should be thrown in jail for having it on them, though as with anything, educating people on the effects would be necessary.
I've known two people that think that their massive use of the drug resulted in...I don't know...let's say a softening of their minds. One guy was really sharp, still is, but feels he did lose something over time from an excessive use of the drug. Anecdotal, yes, but it does give me pause as to the potential consequences. Still, there are all sorts of substances that are legal and can be damaging, we haven't outlawed candy bars, so legalize marijuana and educate people on its effects. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 08:35:55
Thanks for your answers.
A system where all contribute a fair and affordable amount in taxes (relative to their income) makes sense to me. I'm amazed that people in Europe are able to procure prescription drugs without having to pay anything or having a minimal fee attached. Government incompetency is a concern, but could be monitored/altered by a vigilant citizenry and seems preferable to the big insurance companies. |
| pot |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 04:28:38
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders
Everyone knows that!
Cannabis might get legalised quicker if people like you got out of the way of it.
How the fuck am I in the way of cannabis legalisation?
You are delusional.
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| trobrianders |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 04:18:04
Everyone knows that!
Cannabis might get legalised quicker if people like you got out of the way of it.
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| pot |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 04:09:04
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders
Paying for national health is becoming increasingly difficult in the developed world so the debate can't really be settled.
All the more reason for ending cannabis prohibition. Too much money is wasted on ineffective pharmaceutical drugs with too many side effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bffpN876Q
Cannabis + taxation = universal health maintenance + lots of money that would otherwise be going into the hands of criminal going into health care.
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| trobrianders |
Posted - 11/09/2012 : 04:08:33
I wouldn't blame any American for feeling a little apprehensive when they hear the term "socialized" but that doesn't excuse the fanatical knee-jerk reaction that so many Americans have to Universal Health Care.
UK
1) It's far from perfect but way better than any alternative I know of
1a) It's fair in the sense that it's civilised. The people in charge are more competant than I could reasonably expect from a large institution. But again far from perfect.
2) Yes they find it invaluable. Any free nation with an aging population would find it invaluable I'm sure.
3) Absolutely not.
Long waits for treatment and variable quality of treatment for an essentially free or cheap system is tolerable. Finding yourself left uncovered would be intolerable I'd have thought.
Paying for national health is becoming increasingly difficult in the developed world so the debate can't really be settled. Nothing beats putting yourself in a position where you can afford to rely on yourself. That's probably the most relevant lesson to learn in the debate. Cruel winds blowing.
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