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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 10:56:42
This is an excellent, very straight forward presentation by San Francisco architect Richard Gage, member of the AIA http://www.aia.org/ I had not seen this until last night. I found it very informative and free of conspiracy craziness.
We should all watch this very informative presentation and the discuss it in this thread. That would be fun and informative for people not familiar with the true events of 9/11.
http://blip.tv/file/306082/
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 11/05/2007 : 10:51:01
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
seen chomsky's rational comments on 9/11 conspiracies?
I like to complain
Chomsky's comments are just as rational as your's or Darwin's. In fact your comments are even more rational because you've dared to look at the evidence. That makes you more of an expert on the topic of the possible 9/11 conspiracy than Chomsky.
Chomsky is an authority on politics only when staying within the realm of the left/right paradigm. But guess what? It's all a scam.
Where Noam will not roam:
Chomsky manufactures consent,
supports the official stories of 9/11 and JFK
http://www.oilempire.us/chomsky.html
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 11/04/2007 : 14:37:22
seen chomsky's rational comments on 9/11 conspiracies?
I like to complain |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 12:10:15
Here we go, fake news being exposed as fake news but they'll just blame it on the terrorists. I guess they have a CGI studio up in their cave now.
PPPLLLBBB! I can't even get past the first line without blowing snot all over the place.
"When al-Qaida’s media arm"
MSNBC - Was Bin Laden's last video faked?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21530470
Of course it was like most of the news you guys believe.
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:55:34
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| lonely persuader |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:52:58
You're my Shut the Fuck Up !!!!
No comebacks..
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:50:37
You're my spelling bee champion.
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| lonely persuader |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:40:47
Your my hero. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:39:11
Okay.... Let me see if I've got this... KOK must remember he is talking nonce sense.
Got it thanks!
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| lonely persuader |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:25:09
Your first in command of all the nonsense KOK. Remember your talking nonce sense.
A nod to brass eye there. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 10:53:44
quote:
Originally posted by floop
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ydownload_ap/20071029/photos_net_ap_ts/1193702239
Oh hell yeah! *looking into this*
Have you seen any of this Sylvanic stuff? http://www.sylvanic.com/Media%20Page%2002.htm
Floop, you're my second in sasquatch nonsense command. Pull up my world famous Sasquatch thread so I can get these posted over there. My search function doesn't work with my browser for some reason, and it's pissing me off.
http://www.bfro.net/avevid/jacobs/jacobs_photos.asp
My official analysis: skinny, mangy bear.
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 10:50:06
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
They can't keep changing their stories as the lies get exposed.
"They" aren't all the same people. So, why are they all expected to have the same opinion? The 9/11 conspiracy theorist don't all have the same opinion.
Read that 176 page pdf and pass my pop quiz, and then I'll talk to you some more.
That's a very long read Darwin. What I'm saying is we have the official government report giving the official government explanation. Now as that is being exposed as a lie we get different explanations?
I have a three foot pile of books I'm dying to get through. I really can't imagine myself reading all of that. Is there a particular area I can concentrate on? And who is this guy?
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| BLT |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 09:56:32
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
They can't keep changing their stories as the lies get exposed.
"They" aren't all the same people. So, why are they all expected to have the same opinion? The 9/11 conspiracy theorist don't all have the same opinion.
Read that 176 page pdf and pass my pop quiz, and then I'll talk to you some more.
There are only two possible opinions:
a) fer 'em
b) agin 'em |
| darwin |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 09:20:06
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
They can't keep changing their stories as the lies get exposed.
"They" aren't all the same people. So, why are they all expected to have the same opinion? The 9/11 conspiracy theorist don't all have the same opinion.
Read that 176 page pdf and pass my pop quiz, and then I'll talk to you some more. |
| floop |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 08:34:41
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ydownload_ap/20071029/photos_net_ap_ts/1193702239 |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 06:27:04
The "author" doesn't say pancake collapse?
This FINAL report does. They can't keep changing their stories as the lies get exposed. People trying to say WTC7 fell because of this... are doing the same thing. WTC7 was not even mentioned in the official report.
“But the craziest, most truly unhinged conspiracy theory for the towers falling on 9/11?” Torin asks rhetorically. “Fire.” The official story cannot be recreated by any experiment. NIST is the government agency involved in attempting to model what happened to the world trade center on 9/11, and they fail horribly. NIST never models what happens after the collapse initiation, and even what they do model before that is easily debunked. NIST created 16 separate physics programs to simulate the WTC 1 & 2 collapses and only got 1 to collapse partially. Torin adds, “When they did, [in the computer model] they removed 40% of the structural support.” The cross trusses that the towers received a significant amount of their strength from had to be removed to have a collapse in the computer simulation. Torin then mocks the official story, “There’s no such thing as a ‘pancake’ collapse, but there is a progressive collapse”A few slides are shown of progressive collapses throughout the world. None of them are anything like what happened to the world trade center with its pulverized concrete 100 microns or smaller just seconds after the start of collapse, and then its complete destruction. Torin uses his expertise to explain to the audience how and why a real progressive collapse occurs and subsequently why the WTC was not a progressive collapse. “The biggest problem with the argument,” Torin explains. “Time.”
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 10:37:09
Yeah, thanks for this... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4162315283354424113&hl=en
Who is this obnoxious broad?
I'm convinced now.
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 10:22:20
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
lolz@vacuum
did you go through that website?
I like to complain
I just got up. I'll check it now.
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 10:17:23
lolz@vacuum
did you go through that website?
I like to complain |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 09:51:05
That's being generous in favor of the official version. Trying to get the pancake collapse explanation to fit in with how fast those towers actually fell. Floors collapsing onto one another and hence causing the next lower floor to collapse would take much more than one second per each collapse.
Where is the giant pile of floors at ground level? How come the top potion of the tower that leaned over then disintegrated into dust in mid air? That thing should have fallen over then down into the street below as one big chunk.
MIT Engineer Disputes 911 Theory of the WTC Collapse
Part 1 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg
Part 2 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=qW81Cd7nNH8
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| tisasawath |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 04:51:12
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
Even being generous and allowing one second per floor
you can't be generous, you have to be exact. just a general thought.(in general chat. heh... eh..)
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/30/2007 : 03:47:19
That 20 second reference may actually be correct. I have a quote from one of the many examples that states ten seconds, but I'm watching a video that shows closer to twenty of one of the main towers. If I'm seeing it correctly. (linked below).
Even twenty seconds is too fast for the pancake theory type collapse offered by the official explanation. One floor collapsing onto another and causing subsequent floor collapsing would not be free fall. Even being generous and allowing one second per floor you'd end up in the 90 - 110 second per tower time range. Don't you think?
And the clip still supports 7 seconds for wtc7
Also listen the the explosions recorded in the video.
Thanks D
Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? by Morgan Reynolds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Reynolds
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less).
WTC tower free fall http://youtube.com/watch?v=frLAntmGsFA
WTC 7 free fall speed http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_n5gJgQ_U
From 9/11 Mysteries http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6_znfgHbu4
One more http://youtube.com/watch?v=UUdhdTXHcn4
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| darwin |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 23:34:26
It took 15 to 20 seconds (page 42). Eight seconds is how long it took the first pieces that fell off the building to hit the ground. I haven't read all 179 pages, but Ryan Mackey is rational and qualified.
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Ryan_Mackey_Griffin_NIST_Review_1_1.pdf |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 23:22:48
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/wtc7videoincludingeastmechanicalpenthous
but you should read the whole lot. i did (well, i skimmed through some)
I like to complain
I will for sure. Thanks.
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 23:21:23
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/wtc7videoincludingeastmechanicalpenthous
but you should read the whole lot. i did (well, i skimmed through some)
I like to complain |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 23:03:18
I'll cheerily check this out but no amount of low budget websites can explain the towers falling at free fall speed. THE BUILDINGS TOOK THE PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE, AND FELL AS IF THERE WAS NO RESISTANCE. Comprende' slaves? Does no one have any fucking common sense? 110 story buildings do not fall to the ground in under ten seconds. What kind of fluoride sucking fool do you have to be to believe that?
Not you Steve, just ranting.
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 22:02:35
seen this kok?
I like to complain |
| HeywoodJablome |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 12:41:22
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OFFICIAL INTERNET TOUGH GUY |
| BLT |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 15:03:06
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
There we go. It just took some patience. There was no indication on my browser that anything was happening, so I was giving up too quickly.
For a while there I thought it had been blocked by the Knights Templar. |
| coastline |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 14:55:00
There we go. It just took some patience. There was no indication on my browser that anything was happening, so I was giving up too quickly.
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| BLT |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 14:47:44
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
I can't view the image, BLT. A new page comes up, but the image ain't there.
I can see it on 3 different computers here at work. I don't know what to tell you except that it takes a while to load. |
| coastline |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 14:29:03
I can't view the image, BLT. A new page comes up, but the image ain't there.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| BLT |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 14:08:52
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| Dallas |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 13:39:20
I just want everyone to notice the dementia. All the signs are there, but, the need to reinforce a sense of self importance and superiority is obvious in every post (SLAVES!).
This is about insecurity and self loathing. Conspiracy theorists don't like the part of themselves that isn't involved in the fight against world-wide domination...and Sasquatch...and women in the workplace for that matter.
The kicker is KOK doesn'r REALLY believe this stuff, but, he can't let go of the self rightousness that comes along with it. He can't even begin to address the NUMBER ONE issue that all conspiracy theories must overcome and is even more revealing in the 9/11 trash: Where are the conspirators? Not one of the thousands necessary (afterall, people at CNN and the BBC new in advance and reported it!) to pull off this tragedy have broken or even made a mistake?? Its absurd on its face. YOU GOTTA WANT TO BELIEVE it folks. BADLY. It doesn't make a bit of sense any other way. |
| Carl |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 08:13:46
How the mighty fell.
"A little bit of this, and a little bit of that....trade secrets!" |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 01:10:17
quote:
Originally posted by floop
poor KOK. you're the victim in all this.
Yes, I'm the victim. Haven't you ever seen "Dawn of the Dead"?
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