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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 15:22:51 He's too far too modest to brag about it himself, but our own Llamadance took third in a 10k race today, setting a personal best by five minutes. That's huge. Everybody congratulate him.
Do we have any other runners here? I've recently taken it up, and had a rather disappointing first race a few weeks ago. But I'm really loving it. I'm training for a marathon next May. I can't run more than six miles at this point, and I'm not sure I can actually work my way up to 26, but I'm going to give it my best.
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 07:37:16 You know the saying, "You can't keep a good woman down." Our Madame lives by that.
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coastline |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 07:19:47 Way to go, Madame -- especially finishing after the injury.
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Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 05:49:47 Well done Madame. That's good going.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Carl |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 18:04:15 Hi Madame, well done. And hope your ankles' better.
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 11:33:12 Good for you, Mme. Sorry about the ankle. But good for you.
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Madame |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 11:15:37 not really, but it should be better tomorrow, i think. it is quite swollen. it happened between the 14th and the 15th km. the last 5 kms were really difficult, and i lost at least 3-4 minutes because of that.
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 11:02:09 Well done Madame - I was thinking about you yesterday, meant to say good luck. The ankle ok now?
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Madame |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 09:51:15 20k in 1.40 today. it could have been better but i hurt my ankle. |
VoVat |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 09:29:12 Running one mile was always difficult for me, and that was when I was younger and in much better shape. Running a marathon seems to me to be around the same difficulty level as walking to the Moon or conclusively proving the existence of God.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
coastline |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 18:52:47 Why can I no longer see Madame's profile pic? Damnit.
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PixieSteve |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 18:27:05 she runs with a tampon in her hand, because she's a woman. yes, a woman. she does all sorts of womanly things, definitely not a man.
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Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 14:53:58 I thought Madame only ran with a racket in hand.
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:57:37 Madame, make sure you wear a good bra. Support is so important for us lady runners.
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Madame |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:55:53 20km de Paris on Sunday!
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:40:43
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vilainde |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:34:30 Oh dear.
Denis
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:32:16 Plantar fasciitis
I went from 'right wing' to fascist to fasciitis (a common runner's injury)
ok, it wasn't funny.
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:29:45 if you start again and it comes back, gimme a shout. But generally, stretch your calves, pick up keys with your toes and roll ice under your foot.
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vilainde |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:28:21 Nevermind k, I didn't get it either (still don't get it btw)
Denis
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:26:42 Oh, sorry. I'm dense.
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:23:30 eh? I don't have PF, but it is a bugger of an injury to get. I was making a joke out of Denis' post.
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:16:51 Good luck with that, Llama. I had it for years and then it magically disappeared. Coincidentally when I stopped running. Hm.
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 13:11:01 nonono Denis, the injury is plantar fasciitis.
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vilainde |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:55:03 I stopped running the day I learned it was a right-wing sport.
Denis
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 12:34:31 What are trying to do to me?
my 10k PB was set on a course with a big bloody hill in the middle of it 17 months ago, I tend to run HM's so the PB was soft. Also, prior to the race - for the first time ever - I managed to do three months in a row of over 140 miles each - a fair part of which was running up big bloody hills, so I'm a lot stronger. Lastly, I ran through the pain and vomit feeling.
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Carolynanna |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 11:46:39 Congrats llama. 5 minutes is quite substantial. What do you attribute that to?
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Llamadance |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:58:33 you're right tisawath, after about 15 miles you start to get more muscle degradation. However, you still have fat reserves to burn.....even Paula Radcliffe has 10% body fat, less than that for a woman is unhealthy. Dean Karnazes typically has about 5-7% body fat, but for his recent 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days he had to increase that to give himself enough fuel. I sit at about 13-14% body fat, so plenty to work with.
You might be getting confused with glycogen which is needed to burn fat efficiently (iirc). The reason marathon runners hit the wall is there's no glycogen left, burning fat by itself is pretty hard, so no energy.
There's no doubt a marathon is harder on your body than a half marathon, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun, satisfying and injury free if you take the right training and recovery steps.
sheesh, listen to me, like I know it all. I've only run one marathon which I suffered repeated injuries prior to. Think I'm wiser now, we'll see, next marathon is April 2008.
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tisasawath |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 05:41:56 congrats, Llama!
as far as distance, i think half-marathons or less are healthier than full distance because after around 30K your energy reserves get depleted and you start burning your body to be able to continue (the fat reserves have probably already gone through training)
i have this now for stimulation
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Scarla O |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 01:16:48 good work llama! |
Jefrey |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 00:22:50 OK - well we're both wrong. Total of 280 km in all (doesn't say the amount of time between the 240 and the other 40, but I'd rank the 240 in 2 days as a "man's" run) So a mere Marathon is pretty much a distance for wussies:
The traditional story relates that Pheidippides (530 BC–490 BC), an Athenian herald, was sent to Sparta to request help when the Persians landed at Marathon, Greece. He ran 240 km (150 miles) in two days. He then ran the 40 km (26 miles) from the battlefield by the town of Marathon to Athens to announce the Greek victory over Persia in the Battle of Marathon (490 BC) with the word "Nenikékamen" (Nenikékamen, 'We have won' or 'We are victorious') and died on the spot.
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Jefrey |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 00:15:45 quote: Originally posted by Llamadance
quote: originally posted by Jefrey
If it's an accomplishment that you think will make you happy and feel like you've done something in your life to be proud of, go for it. Otherwise, really - it's not very good for your body to train for and run just one marathon.
[snip]......you can really do more damage than good if you don't have a very solid training plan.
Remember, the guy that the marathon distance was named for promptly died after running that far and delivering the message. That's what I think when someone tells me they ran a marathon. 10K is a much healthier distance and you can do it every 2-3 days. 5 miles is my perfect distance. You don't have to refuel or rehydrate or anything, and it only takes 30-40 minutes.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said.
you're quite negative about marathons.
A couple of things:
the sense of achievement is fantastic, it's a huge effort to get there. That achievement shouldn't be dependent on anyone else's reaction, if it does then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
Everyone who's training for any race ideally would have a training plan. Especially for a marathon. The general idea is build up slowly, don't run too fast and make sure you have the correct shoes for your running gait and replace them after 500 miles.
Most people get injured becasue of a failure in one or more of those three things.
10k isn't necessarily a 'healthier distance' and different people will react differently to training and mileage.
Also Pheidippides run seems to have been 250km, not 42km - which is probably why he died.
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I guess I need to check my facts.
Anyway, my point was that the people I talked to didn't have the sense of of achievement you describe. They went through all the pain and suffering and in the end not a one of them seemed to think it was worth it. And then people didn't seem to think it was that big of an achievement on top of that.
I don't they were doing it to impress anyone, but I think the point is that so many people have run marathons now that it's like climbing Everest or something. It's ridiculously hard, a lot of people fail, and then in the end nobody thinks it's a big deal.
I'm not trying to discourage people, really! I like running. Just passing on personal accounts from "casual" marathon runners that just wanted to do it as an acheivement.
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kathryn |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 17:26:35 Fuckin' A, Llama, that's awesome.
Since I stopped running several miles a week I have gained 23 pounds. Ain't that pretty at all. like the song goes.
Seriously, Steve, that's great.
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kfs |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 07:40:24 I run occasionally but I don't have the patience or motivation to do it consistently. I'm proud of you Llama! |
lonely persuader |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 06:38:42 quote: Originally posted by Llamadance
ha, it can be a bit boring at times I guess. However hill or fell running is where it's really at.
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ya, i find it a bit boring. good feeling afterward however, I guess i find it a means to an end at the moment. As i could run for hours after a ball etc... unfortunately I have a gilmore groin at the moment and finding hard to get rid of it via conservative treatment.... its quite literally a pain in the balls at times..... |
Llamadance |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 06:17:50 ha, it can be a bit boring at times I guess. However hill or fell running is where it's really at.
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