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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/17/2007 : 23:07:45
Watch The Limo Driver - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8

Secret Service Standdown - http://youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

Yes, I only come here for create turmoil.


MUUUAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 09/01/2007 : 23:23:26
I suggest that everyone interested in this thread rent this movie. It contains the truth.

The patsy strikes back


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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:47:35
No, that's why I welcome her with open arms. We need to be stubborn. I don't know if you've noticed but I've been getting quite a bit of resistence to this type of stuff.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
BANNED Pres. Bush Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
Dallas Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:36:26
"Binoche's stubborn insistence that everything presented in this (wholly fictional) film is true is in many ways unsurprising."

KOK you must have missed the part in the parentheses.
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:28:01
Yes! http://youtube.com/watch?v=B4hacmvSPaI

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CIA Mind Control Operation MK-ULTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
BANNED Pres. Bush Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:26:17
I could have said "you" but you don't quite qualify. I think you just strive to make sure both sides are seen.

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CIA Mind Control Operation MK-ULTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
BANNED Pres. Bush Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
PixieSteve Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:22:43
my guys?


We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
- Richard Dawkins
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:15:59
Don't get mad because we're getting all the babes.

Your guys still have this harpy. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIsvMSEYiK4

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
BANNED Pres. Bush Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
PixieSteve Posted - 08/31/2007 : 18:10:54
if you're gonna appeal to authority, at least pick someone with... authority. :)


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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/31/2007 : 17:52:37
I would like to welcome this incredibly intelligent and beautiful woman into the world of the "crazy, conspiracy nut."

Juliette Binoche: Femme fatale

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=YS2Y0UVBI0A3BQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/arts/2007/09/01/sm_juliettebinoche01.xml&page=1

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 01/09/2007
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The luminous and fragrant Juliette Binoche is not above tooling up for an action movie - as long as it's shot in the French arthouse style and directed by her boyfriend. By Viv Groskop

Juliette Binoche has spent her career turning down action roles. She told Steven Spielberg 'no' to Jurassic Park and refused a part opposite Tom Cruise in Mission: Impossible. 'I have said no to Hollywood roles where I've been asked to play a secret agent - always small roles where they are seductive stereotypes,' she says. Now finally, at the age of 43, she is playing the part she has always wanted: a female James Bond. 'This one was unusual for me. I am always trying to find something that is challenging and enlightening.'


Bond girl: Juliette Binoche is set to play a 007 role
In A Few Days in September she plays Irene, a tough-cookie French agent protecting an American colleague (Nick Nolte) from a CIA assassin (John Turturro). This, however, is the French arthouse version of an action movie. It is a fast-paced, violent, edge-of-your-seat thriller - but it also has lots of long silences and characters with bizarre quirks (Irene has a pet tortoise and Turturro's character phones his psychoanalyst between shoot-outs). It is the directorial debut of the Argentine-born screenwriter Santiago Amigorena, who also happens to be Binoche's partner. Reviews have compared it to Pulp Fiction and praised Binoche's performance as 'bad-ass but charmingly funny'.

It is an interesting move for the Paris-based actress, who could choose any role she wanted. Best known for her 1996 Oscar-winning performance as the grief-stricken nurse in Anthony Minghella's The English Patient, she was nominated for a second Academy Award for the commercially successful Chocolat, in which she starred alongside Johnny Depp, in 2000. Since then, Binoche has consciously taken more sober, intellectual roles: the frumpy, restrained wife in the word-of-mouth surprise hit of last year, Hidden, and a Bosnian war widow in her second Minghella film, Breaking and Entering.

A Few Days in September is witty and clever, but there is a serious point behind it - with which Binoche is more than a little obsessed. She describes it as a dramatised version of the events depicted in Michael Moore's documentary Fahrenheit 9/11. It alleges that various vested interests - including state security services around the world - knew what was about to happen on September 11, 2001.

While preparing for the role Binoche had long conversations with a secret agent, who consulted on the film and on whom she modelled her character. 'Of course he could not reveal everything to me, but he said a lot,' she says. 'Some things I forgot because it was just too much. Certain things I was very amazed by and when I told people close to me about them they just wouldn't believe it. Everything in there is true,' she adds, her eyes blazing with the fervour of a conspiracy theorist.

So is she saying the film is a dramatisation of real events? 'Absolutely,' she says. 'I went to see the Iranian ambassador at the time and he said of course it's true. Things that I thought were hidden and private… they were very open about it.' So she means the CIA and other agencies knew 9/11 was going to happen? 'Of course.' So is she saying it was an inside job? Or that al-Qa'eda was responsible? 'Everybody is responsible for it. If you only knew more, it's even more depressing.' She suddenly realises this is all getting a bit implausible and explodes into laughter. 'Humour is the only way we can deal with it.'

Binoche's stubborn insistence that everything presented in this (wholly fictional) film is true is in many ways unsurprising. In the past as an interviewee she has had a reputation as difficult, tense and moody. In her twenties she gave up talking to journalists for several years, describing the press as a form of pollution. Ten years after The English Patient, she does seem to have mellowed considerably - conspiracy theories notwithstanding.


The woman the French call 'La Binoche' has an effortless charm. Her nickname as a little girl was Juliette Brioche - supposedly she smelt as delicious as freshly baked bread. She still has a sort of fragrant, goddess-like aura. When we meet at the Dorchester Hotel in London, a favourite haunt, I almost have to stop myself from breathing her in. And she is trying hard not to intimidate: bitten fingernails, barely any make-up, messy hair, ripped jeans, a flesh-coloured bra strap peeping out from a creased camisole. But to no avail: the overall effect is luscious, radiant, ageless beauty.

She comes across as sweet but dangerously unpredictable, wearing her emotions very close to the surface. Minghella once said of her, 'She has no skin, so tears and laughter are never far away.' Any past misunderstandings almost certainly stem from her strange, transatlantic therapy-speak. We start in French but she quickly expresses a preference for English. A lot is lost in translation and many of the phrases she uses are harmless in her native language but comes across as harsh in English.

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CIA Mind Control Operation MK-ULTRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
BANNED Pres. Bush Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is
Srisaket Posted - 08/31/2007 : 02:33:36
quote:
Originally posted by Scarla O


Srisaket this discussion clearly could go on forever - it doesn't sound to me like I'm going to change your mind about the assassination and vice versa i think the same goes for me at the moment...thanks for the chat though :)



Fair enough, thanks to you as well.

Cheers.
Scarla O Posted - 08/31/2007 : 01:18:40

Srisaket this discussion clearly could go on forever - it doesn't sound to me like I'm going to change your mind about the assassination and vice versa i think the same goes for me at the moment...thanks for the chat though :)
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/30/2007 : 22:09:08
quote:
Originally posted by Srisaket

[quote]Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

It's been determined oswald could not have made the shots as described using the gun he supposedly used.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/wkennedy101.xml

But your article also says that earlier tests prove he could have made the shots in time



Yeah, I meant to comment on that but I got side tracked. Some say it's possible some say it's not. More conspiracy I guess. Take that article for what it is, another layer of confusion.

I gather you have the governement approved sources saying it is and others saying it isn't. i don't know.
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Srisaket Posted - 08/30/2007 : 21:49:47
[quote]Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

It's been determined oswald could not have made the shots as described using the gun he supposedly used.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/wkennedy101.xml

But your article also says that earlier tests prove he could have made the shots in time
mixedbizz Posted - 08/30/2007 : 17:55:13
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

JFK assin is gay lol



If by that you mean Clay Shaw, then probably yes....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_Shaw
Carl Posted - 08/30/2007 : 10:53:35
JFK assin is gay lol

"I hate how the reptile dreams it's a mammal. Scaley monster: be what you are!!" - Erebus.
floop Posted - 08/30/2007 : 09:27:19
i especially liked the cinematography in APOCALYPTO. i wonder how much of that is Mel Gibson or if he just lets his cinematograhper do his thing...


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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/30/2007 : 09:21:15
It's been determined oswald could not have made the shots as described using the gun he supposedly used.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/wkennedy101.xml

Oswald 'had no time to fire all Kennedy bullets'

By Tim Shipman in Washington, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 2:01am BST 02/07/2007

Lee Harvey Oswald could not have acted alone in assassinating President John F Kennedy, according to a new study by Italian weapons experts of the type of rifle Oswald used in the shootings.


The new findings will encourage conspiracy theorists
In fresh tests of the Mannlicher-Carcano bolt-action weapon, supervised by the Italian army, it was found to be impossible for even an accomplished marksman to fire the shots quickly enough.

The findings will fuel continuing theories that Oswald was part of a larger conspiracy to murder the 35th American president on 22 November 1963.

The official Warren Commission inquiry into the shooting concluded the following year that Oswald was a lone gunman who fired three shots with a Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle in 8.3 seconds.

But when the Italian team test-fired the identical model of gun, they were unable to load and fire three shots in less than 19 seconds - suggesting that a second gunman must have been present in Dealey Plaza, central Dallas, that day.

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Two of the bullets hit Kennedy, with the first - the so called "magic bullet", ridiculed by conspiracy theorists - also wounding the governor of Texas, John B Connally, after it had struck the president.

In a further challenge to the official conclusions, the Italian team conducted two other tests at the former Carcano factory in Terni, north of Rome, where the murder weapon was made in 1940.

They fired bullets through two large pieces of meat, in an attempt to simulate the assumed path of the magic bullet. In their test, the bullet was deformed, unlike the first bullet in the Kennedy assassination, which remained largely intact.

The second bullet is thought to have missed its target. According to the commission, the third disintegrated when it hit Kennedy's head. The new research suggests, however, that this is incompatible with the fact that Oswald was only 80 yards away, in a book depository, when he fired. The Italian tests suggest that a bullet fired from that distance would have emerged intact from Kennedy's head, implying that the third shot must instead have come from a more distant location.

The findings will encourage conspiracy theorists who hold that Oswald could not have fired three shots in time. For each shot, he would have had to push up the gun's bolt handle, pull the bolt backwards to eject the spent cartridge case and then forward to slide the next round into the chamber, before turning down the bolt handle to lock it in place.

Nearly seven out of 10 Americans believe that Kennedy was murdered as a result of a plot. Depending on which theory they back, the participants supposedly included any or all of the CIA, the Mafia, the Cubans, the FBI chief J Edgar Hoover, the military-industrial complex and Vice-President Lyndon B Johnson.

It is the second challenge in two months to the view of the Warren Commission that Oswald acted alone. In May, researchers at Texas A&M University argued that the ballistics evidence used to rule out a second gunman had been misinterpreted.

The findings will be a frustration to Vincent Bugliosi, the author of a 1,600-page book, also published in May, which claimed to put to rest all the conspiracy theories of the past 44 years.

The Italian findings will be hotly contested by those who believe that Oswald was a lone gunman - not least because they contradict firing tests previously conducted, using Oswald's actual rifle, by the FBI and the US Marines, and another study by Washington police marksmen using an identical gun.

Oswald would only have needed to reload the weapon twice in the eight seconds to get off all three shots, since the time was measured only from the moment he fired the first shot. The FBI concluded that a marksman could have fired a shot at least every 2.3 seconds.

In his book, Mr Bugliosi details how after just two or three minutes' practice with the gun in 1979, three police marksmen aiming at three targets representing Kennedy at the same distance from Oswald, got away three shots in less than eight seconds.

One marksman hit the targets twice and missed the third shot by an inch. A second shooter scored a "kill" with his second shot.

Mr Bugliosi recounts three separate ballistics tests that found that the magic bullet could have wounded Kennedy and Connally and emerged in similar condition to the real bullet. But that is unlikely to stop the Italian research fuelling another generation of conspiracy writers.

More - http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&hl=en&ned=us&q=oswald%20gun%20shots%20fired


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Srisaket Posted - 08/30/2007 : 08:39:52
‘Some people have claimed the fourth shot erroneous - however given that at least four bullets were found at the crime scene i think it reasonable to assume at least four shors were fired. One bullet to JFK's neck, one to the head, one clipping the side of the car and another grazing a police officer at the curb further along the road.’

If you accept that 3 bullets were found by the Dallas PD on the 6th floor of the Book Depository Building (actual physical evidence), then this would also mean that 3 of the 4 shots must have been fired by Oswald. I say Oswald because it was his rifle that was found.

Where is the physical proof of the fourth bullet or indeed other bullets that may have been fired by other shooters? Based on what I have read there is no record of any other bullets (or fragments of bullets) being found at the scene. The 1978 committee that accepted the dictabelt evidence stated that the fourth shot (later discredited by others) supposedly shot from the ‘grassy knoll’ was a miss – probably due (and here I am guessing) due to a lack of physical evidence. In addition the pdf link you pasted only records the presence of four shots as a maximum.

You say that two shots hit JFK, then which shot of the two shots accounted for the injuries to Connally? If it was the neck shot then this would indicate acceptance of the so-called ‘Magic Bullet Theory’ as the entry wounds in JFK’s neck and his position in the limousine would mean this would have to be from the rear and emanating from the TSBD.

I have never read of shots that hit the car. The one by-stander who was injured by a bullet fragment was standing in front of the motorcade.

’The head wound was described by the president's coroner as having come from the front and to the right - inconsistent with a shot from the book depository - afterwards they changed the results of the autopsy to indicate that the front right was in actual fact an exit wound! The trajectory of debris from the president's head clearly indicates the direction of the blow.’

I have to confess that I don’t know enough about the autopsy and what the results were to comment here. I will try to read up on this.

’Yes it was a libel case which was being defended on the basis that the original newspaper article was correct - ie, that he was involved in the assassination of JFK. That withstanding, the various depositions given by senior CIA offiers produced information previously not known (Oswald having visited the Russian Embassy in Mexico for example).’

Oswald’s visit to the Cuban embassy in Mexico City was known about when the Warren Commission compiled its evidence in the 1960’s - this was not new knowledge.

All the appeal court case proved was ‘malice’ – not that Hunt was involved with the assassination.

’Of course i've been there - it's an interesting site but that's not the last word on it. In McAdams' opinion, anyone who defends the conspiracy position is a "conspiracy buff." McAdams frequently refers to those who reject the lone-gunman theory as "buffs." McAdams even applies this label to experts who speak about aspects of the assassination that involve their field of expertise.

For example, when McAdams learned that a professor of neuroscience at a Canadian university rejected the lone-gunman view that Kennedy's backward head snap was the result of a neuromuscular reaction, he opined that the professor was either a "buff" or had been spoon fed erroneous information by a critic of the lone-gunman theory.

Yes - and he calls into question the reliability of anybody else that
he hasn't got a decent answer to. Character assassination (if you'll excuse the pun) is standard intelligence practice! Funny how news that Charlie Sheen downloaded pornography became public as soon as he started talking about 9/11. Funny how various academics have been tarred with the anti-semitism brush when they do the very same...

There are endless more examples.’

On the one hand you have the dyed in the wool Skeptic and the other a proven fabricator of conspiracy evidence (McAdams and Lane).

If you want to use the phrase ‘character assassination’ then you must also add the names of the people who were wrongly implicated by advocates of conspiracy theories (Clay Shaw, David Ferrie and others for example) - it cuts both ways.

I used to believe in all the conspiracy stuff associated with JFK, I read some of the many books (though none by Mark Lane). But now I don’t believe in it.

The lone shooter (Oswald) theory makes most sense to me given what I now know.

The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/30/2007 : 08:29:00
quote:
Yes - and he calls into question the reliability of anybody else that
he hasn't got a decent answer to. Character assassination (if you'll excuse the pun) is standard intelligence practice! Funny how news that Charlie Sheen downloaded pornography became public as soon as he started talking about 9/11. Funny how various academics have been tarred with the anti-semitism brush when they do the very same...

There are endless more examples.

Check out the article 'Twenty Five Ways To Suppress The Truth'...http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html


Funny how KOK got reamed from here to eternity for daring to ask questions about 9/11 on FrankBlack.net


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Scarla O Posted - 08/30/2007 : 05:27:50
thanks srisaket - you could look at this whilst you're at it:

http://www.forensic-science-society.org.uk/Thomas.pdf
Srisaket Posted - 08/30/2007 : 04:38:11
quote:
Originally posted by Scarla O

Point-by-point to Srisaket's post:

"However, the evidence of the fourth shot was based on acoustic evidence later proven to be erroneous"

Some people have claimed the fourth shot erroneous - however given that at least four bullets were found at the crime scene i think it reasonable to assume at least four shors were fired. One bullet to JFK's neck, one to the head, one clipping the side of the car and another grazing a police officer at the curb further along the road.

The head wound was described by the president's coroner as having come from the front and to the right - inconsistent with a shot from the book depository - afterwards they changed the results of the autopsy to indicate that the front right was in actual fact an exit wound! The trajectory of debris from the president's head clearly indicates the direction of the blow.

‘Mark Lane defended journalist Victor Marchetti's JFK assassination article in a libel court case in the early 80s at which various members of the CIA were called to witness and at which the jury came to the conclusion that E Howard Hunt - a CIA contract - was also involved in the assassination. I think you are referring to a libel case in Miami. E Howard Hunt was found guilty of ‘malice’ in the context of a libel conviction, not that he was involved in the assassination of JFK."

Yes it was a libel case which was being defended on the basis that the original newspaper article was correct - ie, that he was involved in the assassination of JFK. That withstanding, the various depositions given by senior CIA offiers produced information previously not known (Oswald having visited the Russian Embassy in Mexico for example).

‘So much of the evidence regarding Oswald had been tampered with - regardless of his culpability he didn't stand a snowball in hell's chance of a fair trial and the very fact that you state with such certainty that he was the killer just goes to prove the same.’
You might want to take a look at this link to a JFK assassination website regarding the subject of bogus evidence; http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bogus.htm. "

Of course i've been there - it's an interesting site but that's not the last word on it. In McAdams' opinion, anyone who defends the conspiracy position is a "conspiracy buff." McAdams frequently refers to those who reject the lone-gunman theory as "buffs." McAdams even applies this label to experts who speak about aspects of the assassination that involve their field of expertise.

For example, when McAdams learned that a professor of neuroscience at a Canadian university rejected the lone-gunman view that Kennedy's backward head snap was the result of a neuromuscular reaction, he opined that the professor was either a "buff" or had been spoon fed erroneous information by a critic of the lone-gunman theory.

"You will also see that Mark Lane’s name is mentioned and his reliability as a proponent of JFK assassination theories is also called into question."

Yes - and he calls into question the reliability of anybody else that
he hasn't got a decent answer to. Character assassination (if you'll excuse the pun) is standard intelligence practice! Funny how news that Charlie Sheen downloaded pornography became public as soon as he started talking about 9/11. Funny how various academics have been tarred with the anti-semitism brush when they do the very same...

There are endless more examples.

Check out the article 'Twenty Five Ways To Suppress The Truth'...http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html



Thanks for the resposne - I will try to respond later on today.
Scarla O Posted - 08/30/2007 : 01:41:42
Point-by-point to Srisaket's post:

"However, the evidence of the fourth shot was based on acoustic evidence later proven to be erroneous"

Some people have claimed the fourth shot erroneous - however given that at least four bullets were found at the crime scene i think it reasonable to assume at least four shors were fired. One bullet to JFK's neck, one to the head, one clipping the side of the car and another grazing a police officer at the curb further along the road.

The head wound was described by the president's coroner as having come from the front and to the right - inconsistent with a shot from the book depository - afterwards they changed the results of the autopsy to indicate that the front right was in actual fact an exit wound! The trajectory of debris from the president's head clearly indicates the direction of the blow.

‘Mark Lane defended journalist Victor Marchetti's JFK assassination article in a libel court case in the early 80s at which various members of the CIA were called to witness and at which the jury came to the conclusion that E Howard Hunt - a CIA contract - was also involved in the assassination. I think you are referring to a libel case in Miami. E Howard Hunt was found guilty of ‘malice’ in the context of a libel conviction, not that he was involved in the assassination of JFK."

Yes it was a libel case which was being defended on the basis that the original newspaper article was correct - ie, that he was involved in the assassination of JFK. That withstanding, the various depositions given by senior CIA offiers produced information previously not known (Oswald having visited the Russian Embassy in Mexico for example).

‘So much of the evidence regarding Oswald had been tampered with - regardless of his culpability he didn't stand a snowball in hell's chance of a fair trial and the very fact that you state with such certainty that he was the killer just goes to prove the same.’
You might want to take a look at this link to a JFK assassination website regarding the subject of bogus evidence; http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bogus.htm. "

Of course i've been there - it's an interesting site but that's not the last word on it. In McAdams' opinion, anyone who defends the conspiracy position is a "conspiracy buff." McAdams frequently refers to those who reject the lone-gunman theory as "buffs." McAdams even applies this label to experts who speak about aspects of the assassination that involve their field of expertise.

For example, when McAdams learned that a professor of neuroscience at a Canadian university rejected the lone-gunman view that Kennedy's backward head snap was the result of a neuromuscular reaction, he opined that the professor was either a "buff" or had been spoon fed erroneous information by a critic of the lone-gunman theory.

"You will also see that Mark Lane’s name is mentioned and his reliability as a proponent of JFK assassination theories is also called into question."

Yes - and he calls into question the reliability of anybody else that
he hasn't got a decent answer to. Character assassination (if you'll excuse the pun) is standard intelligence practice! Funny how news that Charlie Sheen downloaded pornography became public as soon as he started talking about 9/11. Funny how various academics have been tarred with the anti-semitism brush when they do the very same...

There are endless more examples.

Check out the article 'Twenty Five Ways To Suppress The Truth'...http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:45:44
Kathryn has posted a picture of her from when she herself admits she was not taking care of herself very well. I have to admit she was too skinny for my tastes back then but she looks much better today.

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Srisaket Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:41:22
PJ Harvey is strangely attractive and I don’t mean that in a derogatory sense.
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:38:06
I mean these two! Sorry wrong vid. These two!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MH8wrM0NARo

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kathryn Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:37:57
I can't figure out what you see in her, KOK.







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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:37:13
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

It damned well should, knowing how big a boner KOK's had for her all these years.


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These two together gives me an even bigger boner!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ypyq0fCoDrg


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kathryn Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:28:12
It damned well should, knowing how big a boner KOK's had for her all these years.


the cure make me want to die, but in a good way -- mr.biscuitdoughhead

mr.biscuitdoughhead Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:25:10
does that say "p.j. harvey"?


Into the sea, you and me, all these years and no one heard.
Srisaket Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:23:47
Yeah right
The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:14:09
With the discovery of this startling new piece of evidence, I can now say with the utmost confidence that the mystery behind JFK's untimely death has been solved!



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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 20:10:42
Saint John Hunt (the son) website - http://www.saintjohnhunt.com/

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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 19:32:42
Photo's in link.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/jfk_hunt_son_drops_new_bombshell_revelations.htm


Son Of JFK Conspirator Drops New Bombshell Revelations
Costner was set to make documentary on Hunt's confession, before Miami mafia stepped in, E. Howard believed government had sabotaged his wife's plane

Prison Planet | May 3, 2007
Paul Joseph Watson

As the explosive revelation of E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession, in which the former CIA agent and Watergate conspirator admits that he was part of a CIA conspiracy to assassinate JFK, continues to rage across the Internet, the establishment media remains almost mute on what is undoubtedly one of the biggest stories of the decade.

Saint John Hunt, E. Howard Hunt's oldest son, joined Alex Jones yesterday to drop new bombshells about his father's story. Click here to listen. http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/020507hunt.mp3

Hunt was first made aware of what his father knew about the events of November 22nd 1963 when he came into receipt of hand-written memos that outlined the birth of the plot to kill JFK in Miami where it was discussed that a coup needed to take place in order to topple Kennedy and save the CIA from being splintered into a thousand pieces, as JFK had promised.

Saint John then opened his mailbox one January morning in 2004 to discover an unlabeled cassette tape on which his father details the identity of the individuals that were involved in the actual assassination of JFK.

E. Howard Hunt names numerous individuals with both direct and indirect CIA connections as having played a role in the assassination of Kennedy, while describing himself as a "bench warmer" in the plot. Saint John Hunt agreed that the use of this term indicates that Hunt was willing to play a larger role in the murder conspiracy had he been required, but was primarily used in an oversight role.

Hunt alleges on the tape that then Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the planning of the assassination and in the cover-up, stating that LBJ, "Had an almost maniacal urge to become president, he regarded JFK as an obstacle to achieving that."


Saint John Hunt.
In the Alex Jones Show interview, Hunt reveals how Kevin Costner, star of the JFK movie, had shared a mutual friend with E. Howard Hunt and had subsequently visited Hunt in Miami in the interests of producing a documentary film based on Hunt's knowledge of the plot.

"Kevin Costner flies down and is introduced to my father by this mutual friend and Kevin just blurted out, 'so who killed JFK'? My father's jaw dropped and he turned around and looked at his wife and said, 'what did he say'?"

"So the whole thing just kind of blew up in its face and that was the end of that," said Hunt.

Hunt said that Costner had become "somewhat of a conspiracy enthusiast" after having made the JFK movie and was very interested in starting a project based on E. Howard Hunt's revelations.

"What my father devised was a code and a key to give Mr. Costner the relevant information without naming the names," said Hunt, "He listed out a chain of command and a timeline series of events and things that took place along with the most important players in the plot."

Costner considered the information to be "dynamite stuff," but elements of the "Miami mafia" derailed the project and the documentary never got off the ground.

Saint John Hunt also revealed for the first time that E. Howard Hunt thought that the Chicago plane crash that killed his wife in 1972 was not an accident. Investigators discovered at least $10,000 dollars in Dorothy Hunt's luggage, money that Saint John Hunt alleges was Nixon campaign funds used to payoff the families of the Watergate burglars to keep them quiet about the involvement of the Nixon White House in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.

"Later on in his life at one of these bedside confessions....tears started welling up in his eyes and he said, 'you know Saint I was so deeply concerned that what they did to your mother they could have done to you children' and that caused the hair on my neck to stand up - that was the first disclosure from my father that he thought there was something else going on besides sheer pilot error," said Hunt.

Eyewitnesses reported that the plane exploded above treetop level before it had even hit the runway.

Hunt said that "at least 20-25 FBI members," as well as numerous DIA agents were at the scene of the crash within minutes before rescue personnel had even arrived, and that this fact was attested to in a letter sent by the head of the Chicago FBI to investigator Sherman Skolnick.

Hunt cited numerous coincidences surrounding the aftermath of the crash, including Nixon's appointment of his henchman, Egil Krough, to the National Transportation Safety Board which investigates plane crashes, the very day after the incident.

When asked about the photos of the "three tramps" that were arrested on the scene of the JFK murder but were later ordered released, Hunt agreed that they likely showed his father and the two other key conspirators.



"As my father's son, every time I look at that comparison photo between the tramps and my father - it looks like my father to me," said Hunt.

Hunt also said that he was reasonably confident that one of the other tramps was CIA operative Frank Sturgis, who his father had also named as a key member of the murder plot.



Hunt said that his father was not one of the shooters but was more of a manager of the plot on a command level, but was later "hung out to dry" by the CIA and the government.

Asked why Hunt became a willing conspirator in the plot to murder JFK, Hunt responded,"Within intelligence circles, he felt that it was an imperative situation that President Kennedy not be allowed to serve in that office for any longer because there was a lot of crucial things coming down, there was the Vietnam war, there was also the anger and the threats Kennedy had made to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces."

Hunt also said that his father eventually desired to become the director of the CIA and Kennedy was a direct obstacle to that goal.

Hunt concluded by agreeing that his father's legacy was that of a patriotic American who was manipulated and twisted by people like LBJ and Nixon, later to be deserted and have his family torn apart by these same criminals.

E. Howard Hunt finally redeemed himself shortly before his death by blowing the whistle on the JFK murder plot, but now there is a fresh attempt to bury this information on behalf of the compromised and cowardly establishment media, who have afforded this bombshell story almost no attention at all while lavishly devoting coverage to the mindlessness of Britney Spears' comeback and radio host Don Imus' off-hand comments.

Once again the responsibility lies with alternative media and the Internet to make sure E. Howard Hunt's story is heard.

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The King Of Karaoke Posted - 08/29/2007 : 19:26:17
Well, I didn't post it earlier because it's pretty crazy sounding but he basically says LBJ hated JFK and didn't want to wait eight years to become president. yada yada

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Orwell 1984 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940
Srisaket Posted - 08/29/2007 : 19:23:49
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

Deathbed Confession of E. Howard Hunt http://youtube.com/watch?v=fHZl91gN63g

Okay MKULTRA from Apocalypto thread.

Sandoz isolated LSD from ergot. It made it's way into the publics hands because of the MKULTRA program. It was synthasized by other scientists from LSD recieved from the O.S.S. basically.

The mushrooms were given to the growers by the CIA to see if they can be cultivated in greenhouses. From the growers they made their way into the publics hands.

Soemthing like that.

Hence justification of the statement "Mushrooms and LSD became available to the public via the CIA because of their MKULTRA program".

Don't doubt it.

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Network - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
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KOK - What does E.Howard Hunt say in that clip?

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