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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 08/03/2007 : 13:02:50
it annoys me when people ALWAYS leave out the s after a possessive apostrophe just because the name they're adding it to ends in s. although it can be quite acceptable to do that in some cases (e.g. mrs jones' cat) there are other cases where it just doesn't sound right when you read it back (e.g. mr thomas' cat).
add an s if you think you can say it without sounding like homer simpson trying to say the flanders's (another example of a name that's fine without an extra s).
yours?
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 06:15:27
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| coastline |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 05:14:47
You guys might find this amusing. I was so proud of myself a couple days ago, because I wrote a headline for the paper that said, "Whatever happened to American patriotism?" (It was on a letter to the editor. I'm the editor of that section.) It was the first time I've intentionally worked a Frank Black reference into the paper.
And then I got the dreaded e-mail I hate the worst in my job: the one that points out that today's young editors don't know the first thing about grammar anymore. The guy pointed out -- and he's right -- that there's a difference between "whatever" and "what ever." In this case, it should be "what ever." The Frank Black song title got it wrong, and I never realized it. So yeah, the guy's right, although the one-word form in this case is starting to become acceptable. And I'm a moron. But I guess you guys knew that already.
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 14:20:18
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
"Vinyl" is a word like "fish" or "rice". You don't add an "s" when pluralizing it.
I say "fishies". a lot easier to remember than all those stupid rules about pluralizing.
 "How do you like that, Sir Harold?
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| coastline |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 12:28:28
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
Vinyls.
"I have some Beatles vinyls."
I see this a lot on music forums.
"Vinyl" is a word like "fish" or "rice". You don't add an "s" when pluralizing it.
"I have some Beatles vinyl." Much better.
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| Jason |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 10:14:07
Vinyls.
"I have some Beatles vinyls."
I see this a lot on music forums.
"Vinyl" is a word like "fish" or "rice". You don't add an "s" when pluralizing it.
"I have some Beatles vinyl." Much better.
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| Supersumomegafrankfan |
Posted - 09/12/2007 : 15:25:51
When I was little and my parents had a typewriter, I remember learning that after every period you were supposed to space twice. So I got in the habit of doing it that way, and it carried over when I got a computer. But, somewhere recently I read that that was incorrect, and you were only supposed to space once.
I also hate l33t. Maybe I'm just old and cantankerous but it just annoys the crap out of me.
I also hate how seldom-used in everyday textual correspondence the semicolon has become. It's still a valid character in the English language; why not use it?
Into the dust we struggled...and yet we couldn't make coffee |
| jimmy |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 21:34:10
shine, #1 is correct, #2 & #3 are wrong, and #3 is especially wrong
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 18:55:52
i believe 1 is more correct but is is awkward seeing 3 of the same letter in a row, even if there is an apostrophe.
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| Erebus |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 13:41:29
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
I use #1.
Me too. I try to follow the pronunciation, though sometimes that guide isn't completely clear.
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| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 13:27:52
JesusJonas would be a good band name, except for the fact that it reminds me of Jonas Brothers, some gay disney-channel whatever band, if you didn't know.
 "How do you like that, Sir Harold?"
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| hammerhands |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 12:45:37
My local professionals contribute.
"...afar you spend an hour or so..."
"...doing more walking then they expected." |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 04:58:01
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
I always thought JesusJonas would be a cool band name.
It occured to me after about the 500th time I said it.
JesusJonas don't touch that. JesusJonas get down from there and so on....
__________
Fuck off I got work to do.
Well there was the band Jesus Jones.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| hammerhands |
Posted - 09/11/2007 : 00:50:59
different than
I don't know, I can't hear it as incorrect, although 'different from' does sound solid. I also remember being taught not to use contractions when writing except in dialogue. That was a different era.
My mother was telling me the other day about a teacher she had who would confiscate American dictionaries!
Where would 'these kind' and 'this kind' be used interchangeably? A facecloth and a bar of soap, her ass was to these kind. |
| darwin |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 23:42:25
#2 is clearly wrong. #1 and #3 are different styles. I use #1. |
| shineoftheever |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 23:17:59
which is correct, i need to know.
the boss's car
the bosses car
the boss' car
The waxworks were an immensely eloquent dissertation on the wonderful ordinariness of mankind. |
| Erebus |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 22:48:19
I'm a guy who cringes when people say "different than" rather than "different from" and "these kind" rather than "this kind", but then I also find myself saying "I am him", not "I am he". Me was raised by wolves.
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| Carolynanna |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 06:22:03
I always thought JesusJonas would be a cool band name.
It occured to me after about the 500th time I said it.
JesusJonas don't touch that. JesusJonas get down from there and so on....
That reminds me of an old Bill Cosby comedy.
He says; Until I was 15 I thought my name was Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ get in here! Jesus Christ go mow the lawn! And my brother was Goddamnit!
hehe.
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Fuck off I got work to do. |
| VoVat |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 05:27:14
I think it's "WITH a band name."
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
| danjersey |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 21:00:11
Jonas'Cat is catchy as a band name.
or is it, for a band's name?
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| VoVat |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 04:59:57
quote:
it annoys me when people ALWAYS leave out the s after a possessive apostrophe just because the name they're adding it to ends in s. although it can be quite acceptable to do that in some cases (e.g. mrs jones' cat) there are other cases where it just doesn't sound right when you read it back (e.g. mr thomas' cat).
I remember hearing somewhere that you should use just the apostrophe if the word is more than one syllable long, but add the S for one-syllable words ("Jonas' cat," "James's cat"). I don't know how accurate this is, but it's what I generally do now.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
| Jefrey |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 16:08:42
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
quote:
Originally posted by Jefrey
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
Speaking of sports ...
1. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBI.
2. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBIs.
I prefer the latter, but the real sticklers out there will tell you it's the former, since the spelled-out term is "runs batted in."
There's a perfect explanation for the shit that I've been in. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know.
Damn coastline, you're an editor? It's painfully obvious that the correct grammatical way to say this is R'sBI :)
== jeffamerica ==
You know nothing, Jefrey. You don't even have a full complement of F's in your name. I shall bomb you with W'sMD.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Hey, at least it's not Geofrey.
== jeffamerica == |
| coastline |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 15:53:35
quote:
Originally posted by Jefrey
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
Speaking of sports ...
1. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBI.
2. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBIs.
I prefer the latter, but the real sticklers out there will tell you it's the former, since the spelled-out term is "runs batted in."
There's a perfect explanation for the shit that I've been in. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know.
Damn coastline, you're an editor? It's painfully obvious that the correct grammatical way to say this is R'sBI :)
== jeffamerica ==
You know nothing, Jefrey. You don't even have a full complement of F's in your name. I shall bomb you with W'sMD.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| Jefrey |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 15:44:50
quote:
Originally posted by kfs
You know what bothers me?
It bothers me when people misuse your vs. you're.
My boss used to do that a lot in emails.
Actually, it was just the other day that some forum member did that. Hmm...who WAS that?
Yeah, a boss doing that would annoy me too. Makes you wonder why they're not working for you instead.
I think the general consensus is that language is used for communication, and that grammatical mistakes that don't destroy the meaning of what the person is trying to convey are OK.
However, mistaking "your" for "you're" says something about your education level, attention to detail, and whether you actually understand language. If you get it wrong and don't give a shit, or give the other person shit for correcting you and being a grammar nazi, you've found out a lot about that person, IMO.
It distressing to me when someone I work for or look up to in professional life gets these things wrong because it implies a lot of things, that's for sure. When someone sends an email with egregious grammar mistakes, I wonder how the hell they got hired for one thing, and it also makes be a bit wary of their quality as a professional.
== jeffamerica == |
| Jefrey |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 15:38:13
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
Speaking of sports ...
1. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBI.
2. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBIs.
I prefer the latter, but the real sticklers out there will tell you it's the former, since the spelled-out term is "runs batted in."
There's a perfect explanation for the shit that I've been in. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know.
Damn coastline, you're an editor? It's painfully obvious that the correct grammatical way to say this is R'sBI :)
== jeffamerica == |
| hammerhands |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 11:28:02
Gotten is an abrasive word.
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| coastline |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 11:18:24
You're mama.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| kfs |
Posted - 09/06/2007 : 10:51:33
You know what bothers me?
It bothers me when people misuse your vs. you're.
My boss used to do that a lot in emails.
Actually, it was just the other day that some forum member did that. Hmm...who WAS that? |
| debaserrr |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 19:59:51
heiy dun you guys wanna read the book i write, reel quick?/
"The arc of triumph!" |
| coastline |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 10:21:36
Speaking of sports ...
1. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBI.
2. Alex Rodriguez leads the league in RBIs.
I prefer the latter, but the real sticklers out there will tell you it's the former, since the spelled-out term is "runs batted in."
There's a perfect explanation for the shit that I've been in. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 10:01:14
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
One thing someone might be able to tell me is about acronyms. Let's use the example:
"David Beckham plays for a MLS club".
Is that correct because the M stands for Major, therefore it reads as:
"David Beckham plays for a Major League Soccer club". Nothing wrong with that.
Or is it wrong because you pronounce M with a vowel 'E' sound, so it should be:
"David Beckham plays for an MLS club"? That's much easier to say.
I don't know if I've expressed that as well as someone else might but I'm basically asking whether you should read the full name of something, or just the acronym. If so, should this make any difference to the preceding word?
"The arc of triumph"
We discussed this recently at work. In this case you would use 'an', because as you say, you pronounce MLS with a vowel sound first.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Carolynanna |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 08:06:52
Too funny, in all honesty I was not sure how to do the possessive for my son Jonas.
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Fuck off I got work to do. |
| PixieSteve |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 06:40:06
maybe you're meant to read out major league soccer club every time you come across MLS, just like darwin suggested that perhaps you're meant to put the "s" in yourself when you come across, say, "thomas' cat". but i have a tendency to read things how they are written, which i don't think is a crime. i would write "an MLS" but i'd be interested to know what's proper.
it's down to using this forum too much that i know refer to teenager of the year as "totty" :(
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| pixiestu |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 06:33:48
One thing someone might be able to tell me is about acronyms. Let's use the example:
"David Beckham plays for a MLS club".
Is that correct because the M stands for Major, therefore it reads as:
"David Beckham plays for a Major League Soccer club". Nothing wrong with that.
Or is it wrong because you pronounce M with a vowel 'E' sound, so it should be:
"David Beckham plays for an MLS club"? That's much easier to say.
I don't know if I've expressed that as well as someone else might but I'm basically asking whether you should read the full name of something, or just the acronym. If so, should this make any difference to the preceding word?
"The arc of triumph" |
| PixieSteve |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 06:13:28
sounds like west country dialect
"Idiot" is just her sig. |
| coastline |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 05:56:00
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
Also the incorrent use of "that" instead of "who" is annoying ("The person that hit me.")
Hear! Hear! That's the one I correct people most for. I even do that one in the middle of conversation, it bugs me so much. I do have a friend who charmingly says it this way, though:
"The person what hit me."
There's a perfect explanation for the shit that I've been in. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know. |
