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| Jose Jones |
Posted - 07/14/2007 : 05:54:21
do any of you have a preference?
i myself am unbelievably excited about Ron Paul. i've spent almost every free moment i've had in the last 48 hours reading his articles and watching his interviews. he's the guy i've always dreamed of having in politics.
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 07:08:27
The derailment of this topic is why I sarted my own thread.
And yes, Go Ron Paul!
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ |
| Jose Jones |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 05:56:05
it's supposed to be about the 2008 candidates. go ron paul!
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| starmekitten |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 04:24:13
KOK, stop posting after yourself over and over again. If you want people to take you even half way seriously try writing an argument, yourself, with supporting links to articles rather than you tube link after article after you tube link. Do you expect people to honestly stop what they're doing and check all this guff out because you said so?
What on earth is this thread about?
Idiot. |
| Visiting Sasquatch |
Posted - 07/24/2007 : 16:32:33
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Sorry I'm not going to be spending my time watching conspiracy videos about 911 (or aliens, Sasquatch, or the Federal Reserve).
But I do exist! I am here! Believe! |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 20:32:10
You've got the globalists pushing the "man made" theory because it helps them progress their plan for one world governance. The globalists as in "New World Order" own the media. So which theory do you think will prevail? If they decide to say solar activity is down, it's down. But realizing that solar activity can affect the seismic activity on earth and hearing eight years ago that we will see this in the form of more earthquakes I have to wonder if it really has subsided. I'm no expert but I know how controlled the media is.
Comprende?
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 20:17:33
If you say so. Enjoy your governemt issued reality. You deserve it. |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 20:15:41
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
So, you've apparently never heard the theory that the solar storms effect the earth's seismic activity. Is this really so hard to fathom? The moon effects the tides for Pete's sake!
Give me some links supporting your belief or some refuting mine. All you did was come back with some psuedo-intellectual bullsihit. At least I provided something to back up what I was saying. All you did was make yourself sound like a pompas ass. I can imagine you "If 'Darwin' has never heard of this then it's not true." It's time to evolve brother.
I mean if Harvard is researching it can it be that fucking crazy?
And you're too dumb to realize that even if solar storms affect seismic activity (which they may, not my field) that an increase earthquakes is not a good indication of higher solar storm activity. And certainly isn't good evidence that global warming isn't caused by humans.
You don't even know what pseudo-intellectual means. What I presented was YOUR line of argument. Perhaps you didn't recognize it. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 19:59:38
Paul Craig Roberts: A Wake-up Call
by Paul Craig Roberts
This is a wake-up call that we are about to have another 9/11-WMD experience.
The wake-up call is unlikely to be effective, because the American attitude toward government changed fundamentally seventy-odd years ago. Prior to the 1930s, Americans were suspicious of government, but with the arrival of the Great Depression, Tojo, and Hitler, President Franklin D. Roosevelt convinced Americans that government existed to protect them from rapacious private interests and foreign threats. Today, Americans are more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to government than they are to family members, friends, and those who would warn them about the government’s protection.
Intelligent observers are puzzled that President Bush is persisting in a futile and unpopular war at the obvious expense of his party’s electoral chances in 2008.
In the July 18 Los Angeles Times (”Bush the Albatross”), Ronald Brownstein reminds us that Bush’s behavior is disastrous for his political party. Unpopular presidents “have consistently undercut their party in the next election.” Brownstein reports that “88% of voters who disapproved of the retiring president’s job performance voted against his party’s nominee in past elections . . . . On average, 80% of voters who disapproved of a president’s performance have voted against his party’s candidates even in House races since 1986.”
Brownstein notes that with Bush’s dismal approval rating, this implies a total wipeout of the Republicans in 2008.
A number of pundits have concluded that the reason the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush’s follies is that they expect Bush’s unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory next year.
There is a problem with this reasoning. It assumes that Cheney, Rove, and the Republicans are ignorant of these facts or are content for the Republican Party to be destroyed after Bush has his warmonger-police state fling. “After me, the deluge.”
Isn’t it more likely that Cheney and Rove have in mind events that will, once again, rally the people behind President Bush and the Republican Party that is fighting the “war on terror” that the Democrats “want to lose”?
Such events could take a number of forms. As even diehard Republican Patrick J. Buchanan observed on July 17, with three US aircraft carrier battle groups in congested waters off Iran, another Tonkin Gulf incident could easily be engineered to set us at war with Iran. If Bush’s intentions were merely to bomb a nuclear reactor, he would not need three carrier strike forces.
Lately, the administration has switched to blaming Iran for the war in Iraq. The US Senate has already lined up behind the latest lie with a 97-0 vote to condemn Iran.
Alternatively, false flag “terrorist” strikes could be orchestrated in the US. The Bush administration has already infiltrated some dissident groups and encouraged them to participate in terrorist talk, for which they were arrested. It is possible that the administration could provoke some groups to actual acts of violence.
Many Americans dismiss suspicion of their government as treasonous, and most believe conspiracy to be impossible “because someone would talk.”
There is no basis in any known fact for this opinion.
According to polls, 36% of the American people disbelieve the 9/11 Commission Report. Despite this lack of confidence, and despite the numerous omissions and errors in the report, it has proven impossible to have an independent investigation of 9/11 or to examine the official explanation in public debate. Even experts and people with a lifetime of distinguished public service are dismissed as “conspiracy theorists,” “kooks,” and “traitors” if they question the official explanation of 9/11. This despite the fact that war in the Middle East, a long-planned goal of Bush’s neoconservative administration, could not have been initiated without a “new Pearl Harbor.”
That powerfully constructed steel buildings could suddenly turn to dust because they were struck by two flimsy aluminum airliners and experienced small fires on a few floors that burned for a short time appears unexceptionable to a majority of Americans.
Moreover, people have talked. Hundreds of them. Firefighters, police, janitors, and others report hearing and experiencing a series of explosions in upper floors and massive explosions in the underground basements. This eyewitness testimony was kept under wraps for three or more years until the official explanation had taken root. The oral histories were finally forced loose by freedom of information act suits. The eyewitness reports of explosion after explosion had no effect.
Larry Silverstein, who received billions of dollars in insurance payments for the destroyed buildings, talked. He said on public television that the order was given “to pull” building 7. His stunning admission had no effect.
The Bush administration is preparing us for more terrorist attacks. The latest intelligence report says that Al Qaeda has regrouped, rebuilt, and has the ability to come after us again. “Al Qaeda will intensify its efforts to put operatives here,” says the report.
Security operatives, such as Michael Chertoff, and various instruments of administration propaganda have warned that we will be attacked before next year’s election. Chertoff is not a person who wants to be known as Chicken Little for telling us that the sky is falling.
Bush has the Republican Party in such a mess that it cannot survive without another 9/11. Whether authentic or orchestrated, an attack will activate Bush’s new executive orders, which create a dictatorial police state in event of “national emergency.” [Read]
The UK government is hand-in-glove with the Bush administration and will provide cover or verification for whatever claim the Bush administration advances. So will the right-wing governments in Canada and Australia. That takes care of the English-speaking world from which contrary explanations might reach the American people.
It is possible that Bush is now too weak, that suspicion is too great, and that there is too much internal resistance in the federal bureaucracy and military for any such scenario. If so, then my prediction prior to the invasion that the US invasion of Iraq will destroy Bush, the Republican Party, and the conservative movement will be proven true. The Democrats’ strategy of doing nothing except making sure Bush gets his way will produce the landslide that they expect.
However, this assumes that Cheney, Rove, and their neoconservative allies have lost their cunning and their manipulative skills. It is difficult to imagine a more dangerous assumption for Democrats and the American people to make.
Once the US experiences new attacks, Bush will be vindicated. His voice will be confident as he speaks to the nation: “My administration knew that there would be more attacks from these terrorists who hate us and our way of life and are determined to destroy every one of us. If only more of you had believed me and supported my war on terror these new attacks would not have happened. Our security efforts were impaired by the Democrats’ determined attempts to surrender to the terrorists by forcing our withdrawal from Iraq and by civil libertarian assaults on our necessary security measures. If only more Americans had trusted their government, this would not have happened.” And so on. Anyone should be able to write the script.
Paul Craig Roberts wrote the Kemp-Roth bill and was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is author or coauthor of eight books, including The Supply-Side Revolution (Harvard University Press). He has held numerous academic appointments, including the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University and Senior Research Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 19:13:57
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
All I'm trying to show you is that it's bigger than what you are aware of. If you want to fight the good fight I think it's imporatant that you know your enemy.
Otherwise you are just treading water.
Why don't you give it 30 minutes?
You ever consider that you might not know what you're talking about?
I gave a rational listing of your argument about solar cycles and earthquakes (and I believe showed what a bunch of foeey it was) and you don't respond. You just call me closed minded and post another link to another YouTube video. It's pointless. Your enemies have nothing to fear.
“It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory,
mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the
World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics.”
— Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret), Former Political-Military Affairs
Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director
of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 18:27:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgoSOQ2xrbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgoSOQ2xrbI |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 18:09:23
You act as if you are the first person I've ever tried to convince of this crazy theory. Concerning the subject of 9/11 I've done my homework. If I was going to present this crazy conspiracy theory as actually being true I needed to know as much as I could about it. I gave out 450 dvd's last year (each of which contained two movies), emails, phone, calls, flyers, bumperstickers, Myspace postings, etc, etc.. I've changed many, many minds and lives. Many that thought that I was "losing it" have turned around, appologized and thanked me. My Oreilly loving best friend being one. I would much rather believe what the government is telling me, life would be a whole lot easier. You think it's easy realizing everything you've been told your whole life is a lie? I want to go back to fearing AlQaeda, the problem is, I tend to take TRUTH as the authroity, not AUTHORITY as the truth. I've had way too many question from the get go.
I suppose you for a while feared the "Evildoers"?
You have unknowingly become a good citizen of George Orwells - not so fictitious - world of "1984"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgoSOQ2xrbI
So, you've apparently never heard the theory that the solar storms affect the earth's seismic activity. Is this really so hard to fathom? Do you believe the moon eafects the tides? The earth is round?
Give me some links supporting your belief or some refuting mine. All you did was come back with some psuedo-intellectual bullshit. At least I provided something to back up my statements. All you accomplished was to make yourself sound like a pompas ass. Hey Darwin, it's time to evolve brother, natural selction is about to wipe your stagnant ass out.
If Harvard is researching and writing on it, can it be that fucking crazy? |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 14:54:52
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
All I'm trying to show you is that it's bigger than what you are aware of. If you want to fight the good fight I think it's imporatant that you know your enemy.
Otherwise you are just treading water.
Why don't you give it 30 minutes?
You ever consider that you might not know what you're talking about?
I gave a rational listing of your argument about solar cycles and earthquakes (and I believe showed what a bunch of foeey it was) and you don't respond. You just call me closed minded and post another link to another YouTube video. It's pointless. Your enemies have nothing to fear. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 14:35:59
In fact, I'm playing into their hands by arguing with you. Divide and conquer. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 14:22:52
All I'm trying to show you is that it's bigger than what you are aware of. If you want to fight the good fight I think it's imporatant that you know your enemy.
Otherwise you are just treading water.
Why don't you give it 30 minutes? |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 14:08:29
Sorry I'm not going to be spending my time watching conspiracy videos about 911 (or aliens, Sasquatch, or the Federal Reserve).
Why? Because in my experience the makers of those videos make wild claims that aren't supported by facts, and I believe that most cases the energy devoted to conspiracies only subtracts from the energy that could be devoted to real causes that will make a real difference. It's a circus that diverts the focus off the real issues. You want a real conspiracy focus on Bush's use of executive privledge to shield himself from Congress's investigations. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 13:45:54
Darwin, how did the film "911 mysteries" work for you?
Do you think there are some good points in it? |
| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 11:17:34
hmmmm... i'll give it some thought.
ummm... salad? |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 11:16:23
How about trying to not be an idiot? That's something you could do. |
| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 11:10:50
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Mitt Romney holding up a sign linking Obama and Osama (and misspelling Momma)
Ahh, the image isn't working. it's not that good anyways. Here's a link.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/07/0720_brookshire_obama.jpg
PS biscuithead give it a fucking rest, alright.
sorry, there's nothing else to do around here.
ummm... salad? |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 11:06:56
Apparently 'delete' isn't working for me. |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 11:05:17
Mitt Romney holding up a sign linking Obama and Osama (and misspelling Momma)
Ahh, the image isn't working. It's not that good anyways. Here's a link.
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/21/mitt-catches-s-t-over-hillary-bashing-sign/
PS biscuithead give it a fucking rest, alright. |
| Visiting Sasquatch |
Posted - 07/21/2007 : 10:07:57
This thread's title is misleading. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 21:14:07
Follow that documentary from point to point then get back to me. Solar storms and their apparent relationship to siesmic activity on earth are not my forte' I'll admit. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 21:10:41
Not lazy, just disinterested in trying to save the world any longer. I had these same types of debates over Iraq four years ago. No one would listen to my crazy talk then either. I offer you this (again): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries+full+length&total=37&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Then I call it a night.
Now for something completely different.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jojNzvtP6LY&mode=related&search= |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 21:05:11
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
Either it's because you scientific types fit the same closed minded stereotype or...
Following an argument from point to point makes one closed minded?
Believing every conspiracy theory doesn't make you a free thinker, just lazy. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 20:53:14
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Your analysis:
1) There's been more earthquake [no evidence for this given]
2) Solar cycles contribute to more earthquakes [a paper in a USSR journal and some clippings support]
3) Therefore, point 1) and 2) show that there has been more solar activity [i.e. A tends to lead to more B, you think you've seen more B so there MUST be more A; an awe-inspiring leap in logic]
4) Therefore, there's no man caused increase in global temperatures [despite the signal for global warming being much longer than the 11 year solar cycle]
5) Therefore, Gore is whiny globalist
6) Therefore, everyone needs to "Wake Up!", vote for Ron Paul, and buy some YouTube stock
Brilliant!
This is something my good friend would write. I call him "The Scientist"
In fact this answer resembles something he would write way too closely. Either it's because you scientific types fit the same closed minded stereotype or... Mike is this you? I told you before, just because you live a few miles from MIT that doesn't make you a scientist.
I suppose you don't believe in Sasquatch either. |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 20:42:29
Your analysis:
1) There's been more earthquake [no evidence for this given]
2) Solar cycles contribute to more earthquakes [a paper in a USSR journal and some clippings support]
3) Therefore, point 1) and 2) show that there has been more solar activity [i.e. A tends to lead to more B, you think you've seen more B so there MUST be more A; an awe-inspiring leap in logic]
4) Therefore, there's no man caused increase in global temperatures [despite the signal for global warming being much longer than the 11 year solar cycle]
5) Therefore, Gore is whiny globalist
6) Therefore, everyone needs to "Wake Up!", vote for Ron Paul, and buy some YouTube stock
Brilliant! |
| coastline |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 20:12:38
Awesome, King of Karaoke. You quadruple-posted, with the fourth being, simply, "Douche." You deserve some kind of award, for sure.
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:59:26
Douche |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:58:46
EARTHQUAKE TRIGGERING,
EARTHQUAKE PRECURSOR SIGNAL GENERATION,
AND EARTHQUAKE SENSITIVITY THEORY PICTURES
Latest Update: May 20, 2004
Earthquake Triggering Earthquake Precursor Signal Generation
Earthquake Sensitive Humans, Animals, And Plants
Earthquake Triggering Forcess Reference Information
Site visitors are invited to make suggestions regarding additions to or corrections to these general theory pictures. Please send the suggestions to: seismic@ix.netcom.com.
Many of the individual theories outlined here have been proposed by and discussed by researchers around the world over the years. And one goal is to try to locate and include references to as many of those researchers’ publications as possible.
EARTHQUAKE TRIGGERING
The following theory pictures propose how earthquakes are being triggered. Just a few of the most important earthquake triggering forces and phenomena are being discussed. A number of others are listed in the following report: Earthquake Triggering Processes.
A - 1 The movement of tectonic plates relative to one another and other processes cause strain to build in earthquake fault zones around the world.
A - 2 Various obstacles such as the resistance of rock layers to smoothly slip past one another cause that strain energy to build to dangerously high levels in some fault zones.
A - 3 Enough strain eventually accumulates in the fault zone rock layers to overcome those obstacles. And some of that stored energy is released in the form of a powerful earthquake.
A - 4 Two groups of forces, phenomena, and factors which can affect earthquake triggering are ones related to the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon on the Earth, and fault zone environmental factors such as it north and south or east and west orientation.
A - 5 External forces or phenomena such as atmospheric storm related wind drag on continents and fault zone rock layer heating associated with solar and geomagnetic storms can temporarily or permanently add or subtract sufficient amounts of strain energy to or from the fault zone to move an earthquake occurrence time forward or backwards hours, days, or weeks in time.
A - 6 Forces or phenomena such as shockwaves from powerful earthquakes occurring around the world or nuclear tests can produce permanent instabilities in a fault zone and move the earthquake occurrence time forward or backwards days, weeks, months, decades, and even centuries in time.
A - 7 The actual earthquake occurrence time window is often finally determined by strain which is temporarily or permanently added to the fault zone by forces or phenomena which are directly and/or indirectly associated with the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon. Some of those phenomena would be ocean tides and the Solid Earth Tide.
The following drawing shows how forces related to the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon on the Earth's crust can trigger an earthquake. A fault zone running east and west (EW) may fracture when the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon pull it towards the north and the south at the same time. And a fault zone running north and south (NS) may fracture when the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon pull it towards the east and the west at the same time.
A - 8 Two specific earthquake triggering force related theories are presently being considered. The first (see D – 1) involves earthquake triggering pressure being directly exerted on the Earth’s crust by the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon. The second (see D – 2) involves earthquake triggering pressure being exerted on the crust by the Earth’s solid core as it attempts to move away from the sun – Earth – moon barycenter or center of mass which the core, the crust, the Earth as a whole, and the moon rotate around once each month.
A - 9 When forces or phenomena such as atmospheric and earthquake related shockwaves move the earthquake occurrence time forward or backwards in time from when it would have ordinarily occurred then the occurrence time shifts to another distinct time window which is controlled by the gravity related forces. Shift like that do not involve arbitrary amounts of time.
A - 10 Sun and moon gravity related forces and phenomena can reach high and low strength points in a number of different time cycles. Several of the most important cycles are multiples of roughly 6.25 hours (including 24 hours and 50 minutes) and multiples of about 7 days (including 28 days).
A - 11 A number of cycles having the same time length can be active at a given time. For example, one 6 hour cycle may be controlled by the position of the moon in the sky while at the same time another 6 hour cycle is controlled by the location of ocean tide crests and troughs.
A - 12 Which time cycles control occurrence times for earthquakes in a given fault zone system is strongly related to how forces and phenomena related to the cycles cause different rock layer sections in the fault zone system to be bent, stretched, or compressed in relation to one another. Another way of saying that is to state that what might be described as time cycle controlled Pressure Waves within the Earth's crust are actually triggering most earthquakes.
A - 13 It has been proposed by at least one researcher that in most cases earthquake occurrence times are linked with points of high and low strain in the time cycles while a smaller percentage of earthquake occurrence times are linked with the times when time cycle related earthquake triggering forces are experiencing their most rapid change in strength.
A - 14 Earthquake aftershocks are often not random events as far as their occurrence times are concerned. Those times are frequently controlled in part by those sun and moon gravity related time cycles. In fact, the aftershocks are even more likely to be controlled by them than the original earthquake.
EARTHQUAKE PRECURSOR SIGNAL GENERATION
Only a few earthquake precursor signal generation related processes are being discussed here.
B - 1 Phenomena such as the piezoelectric effect cause different types of electromagnetic energy field fluctuations to be generated in fault zones in the days, weeks, months, and years before earthquakes occur.
B - 2 Geomagnetic storm energy (which often has its origins in solar storms) can interact with fault zones and in the process contribute to or amplify certain fault zone activity related electromagnetic energy field fluctuations.
B - 3 Solar storm activity is associated with events taking place in and around the sun. Interactions between solar storms and the Earth's geomagnetic field and earthquake fault zones are affected by the nature of the solar storm and also the orientation of the sun's magnetic field lines relative to those of the Earth. About every 7 days the sun magnetic field lines orientation can shift from being in the same direction as those of the Earth to being in the opposite direction.
B - 4 Earthquake fault zone activity related electromagnetic energy fields can be focused in specific directions by a variety of phenomena. As a result before an earthquake a sensor located a certain distance on one side of the fault zone might be detecting strong energy field fluctuations while another one an equal distance away on the fault zone's other side might not detect anything. This is one of the important reasons that some energy field detectors give the appearance of not producing consistent results.
B - 5 The geomagnetic storm - earthquake fault zone interactions take place most often during the days and weeks just before an earthquake occurs when the fault zone’s rock layer's physical, chemical, and electrical properties change as it gets close to fracturing. But they can also take place months and perhaps years before the earthquake occurs.
B - 6 Phenomena such as lighting strikes and I believe geomagnetic storms can cause low frequency radio waves to be generated. I expect that events taking place within fault zones can also cause them to be generated.
Those radio waves can travel around the world with relatively little loss in signal strength. Air is a reasonably good conductor for them. Water is better. And metal is best.
As they interact with fault zones and/or when they are generated as the result of fault zone activities, information regarding fault zone events can be superimposed on them and then be carried by them around the world.
B - 7 Some fault zone event related electromagnetic energy field fluctuations range in time from 0.25 seconds to perhaps 30 seconds in duration. Others may persist for hours, days, and even weeks.
B - 8 Because the times when those energy field fluctuations occur can be controlled by forces or phenomena related to the gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon and also forces or phenomena related to geomagnetic storms etc., the fluctuations can occur at high strain level times etc. in the same time cycles which control earthquake occurrence times. Or they can occur at somewhat random looking times which may be days, weeks, or months apart.
B - 9 Other earthquake precursors possibly related to electromagnetic energy field fluctuations have been reported over the years. They would include Earthquake Lights which are a type of temporary, local luminescence, glowing balls of light which may be suspended in the air, and static noise on radio, television, and telephone transmissions.
B - 10 Interactions taking place between earthquake fault zones located even great distances apart can result in signals being generated which are stronger than they might otherwise be. For a hypothetical example, an approaching 8.0 magnitude earthquake in one fault zone might cause a signal associated with a 4.0 magnitude earthquake which is about to occur in another, distant fault zone to be amplified to a point where it appears to be for a 6.0 magnitude earthquake.
EARTHQUAKE SENSITIVE HUMANS, ANIMALS, AND PLANTS
C - 1 Electromagnetic energy field fluctuations linked with fault zone events and in some cases also with low frequency radio waves which are affected by or generated as a result of fault zone events, can produce strong reactions in humans, animals, and perhaps some plants.
C - 2 Various groups of organisms such as dogs and catfish will have different types of and different levels of sensitivity to those energy field fluctuations. And within a single group of organisms such as dogs different members will experience different types of and different levels of sensitivity to those energy field fluctuations.
C - 3 The responses of different organisms to the energy field fluctuations can result from basic energy field - biological system interactions. Those types of interactions would be similar to having water heated by the energy field of a microwave oven.
C - 4 They can result as side effects of energy field - biological system interactions which the evolutionary process has deliberately built into the members of a specific group of organisms for some reason such as to provide them with an ability to detect light or to sense the orientation of the Earth's magnetic field.
C - 5 They can result from energy field - biological system interactions which result from a deliberate effort by the evolutionary process to provide the members of a specific group of organisms with an ability to detect the approach of an earthquake.
C - 6 I have never heard about any research being done on plant sensitivity to those energy field fluctuations and am simply assuming that such effects probably exist.
C - 7 Earthquake sensitive animals may become temporarily agitated and/or disoriented by those energy field fluctuations. Some pet animals may wander away from home and become lost.
C - 8 Animals respond mostly to energy field fluctuations which are linked with events taking place in local earthquake fault zones. However, an occasional animal will be able to sense those fluctuations when they are associated with fault zones which are hundreds of miles away.
C - 9 Some pet animals which might behave as though they are earthquake sensitive are actually responding to fault zone activity related behavioral changes etc. which they are observing in their earthquake sensitive human owners.
C - 10 All humans are probably earthquake sensitive to some degree. Some fraction of the population is sufficiently sensitive to be able to clearly tell when a local earthquake is going to occur. A small fraction are sufficiently sensitive to be able to detect signals associated with earthquakes occurring around the world.
C - 11 Earthquake sensitive humans may experience physical, random or monthly type hormonal, emotional, and brain activity related responses to those energy field fluctuations. Headaches are among the most common responses. Nausea and dizziness can occur. Some people may experience abrupt, strong, and temporary or even somewhat longer lasting mood swings. High or low frequency tones may be heard in one ear or the other or in both ears at the same time. Short duration muscle jolts are common. Physical pain or some other type of sensation in a hand or foot and in extreme cases actual physical injury can occur. Dreams may be influenced by those energy field fluctuations. Especially sensitive people may begin hearing voices or seeing ghostly images. I believe that some people might begin seeing auras of different colors surrounding other people.
C - 12 Some earthquake sensitives can determine from which hand or foot is being affected by those energy field fluctuations etc. roughly where on the planet an approaching earthquake is likely to occur.
C - 13 Because water is a good conductor for the low frequency radio waves, earthquake sensitive humans will sometimes experience stronger reactions to the fault zone activity related energy field fluctuations when they stand near a large body of water such as on the ocean shore. Their reactions may get abruptly stronger when they stand near metal water pipes in a house and even when they begin running tap water into the kitchen sink.
C - 14 People who have water dowsing abilities are probably often detecting those energy field fluctuations as the signals travel through underground sources of water. I understand that dowsers are not usually able to detect the presence of electrically isolated bodies of water such as water present in a plastic swimming pool.
C - 15 Diet modification and dietary supplements can at times be used to control painful headaches or other undesired responses to those fault zone activity related electromagnetic energy field fluctuations. Common pain control medications such as aspirin may help. People who are strongly earthquake sensitive may need to rely on prescription drugs. Certain types of medications and foods can temporarily increase a person's sensitivity to the energy field fluctuations.
Biofeedback can reportedly help reduce earthquake sensitivity. And I would expect that hypnosis might also work for some people.
Some earthquake sensitives have reportedly been able to reduce the number and severity of their headaches or mood shifts etc. by moving to some other part of the country where fault zone activity related electromagnetic energy field fluctuations are weaker or at least different. After such a move it might require several weeks for the undesired energy field related responses to be reduced in strength.
C - 16 An inexpensive and effective way to detect approaching earthquakes might involve having a number of people who are earthquake sensitive contact some central facility when they were having earthquake warning experiences such as headaches. If 100 in some area were reporting in and only few in surrounding areas were doing the same then that might be a sign that an earthquake was about to occur near that first area. Additionally, earthquake forecasters and researchers could always ask them for more information when desired. That is obviously not possible with earthquake sensitive animals or conventional radio signal receivers or seismic activity monitors. See: A Demonstration Earthquake Prediction Program
EARTHQUAKE TRIGGERING FORCES
D - 1 An External Source Of Earthquake Triggering Pressure On The Earth’s Crust
As the following drawing shows, the Gravity Point is the location on the surface of the Earth where the combined gravitational pulls of the sun and the moon are strongest.
As the Earth rotates each day on its North and South Pole axis, its crust on the side which is rotating towards the Gravity Point is accelerated by the sun and moon gravity while the side moving away from the Gravity Point is decelerated or slowed. That creates strain within the crust. And earthquakes are triggered at locations where that strain causes the crust to be bent, stretched, or compressed in just the right directions.
D - 2 An Internal Source Of Earthquake Triggering Pressure On The Earth’s Crust
As that previous drawing shows, once each month the Earth and the moon rotate around a sun – Earth – moon barycenter or center of mass which is a certain distance down beneath the surface of the Earth. The location of that barycenter is constantly moving towards and away from the center of the Earth depending upon the location of the sun relative to the moon. And it is constantly moving around the location of a line drawn between the center of the Earth and the center of the moon.
The solidified iron believed to be the major component of the Earth’s core is roughly 5 times as heavy or dense as the material in the Earth’s crust. As both the core and the crust rotate around that barycenter once each month the mass of the Earth in general attempts to assume the shape of an egg with its ends pointing away from the barycenter. And the solid core tries to move in a direction almost directly away from both that barycenter and from the location of the moon.
The Earth’s gravity, rotation, and its somewhat rigid structure prevent it from undergoing rapid, appreciable changes in shape. And the core is kept from moving within the Earth by those factors. That results in the solid core exerting earthquake triggering pressure at different locations or pressure points in the crust from inside the Earth. Where those pressure points are located is determined by factors such as the location of center of mass of the core relative to the sun – Earth – moon rotation barycenter and the rotational orientation of the Earth as it revolves once each day on its North and South Pole axis.
REFERENCE INFORMATION
How Earthquake Sensitives Predict Earthquakes, GeoMonitor: Earthquake Prediction News; April, 1996
Breathing of the seafloor: Tidal correlations of seismicity at Axial volcano, Geology; June 2002; v. 30; no. 6; p. 503-506 (See especially Figure 4A.) (Also, that paper contains a helpful list of references.)
'Restless Earth' May Give Advance Notice Of Large Earthquakes (NASA News)
Prediction of Destructive Earthquake by the MDCB-Method, Wang, Wen-xiang and Yang, Wu-yang, Xian Sub-Institute, Coal Science Research Institute of China MDCB Web Site
Earthquake Triggering Processes
Earthquake Forecasting Resources Web Page
Earthquake Triggering Data For 1990 Through 2005, Wave Charts, Earthquake Data Fingerprints
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:55:51
Magnetic Storms And Earthquakes
For years scientists have been studying the impact of different geophysical fields on the earthquakes occurrence. It has been assumed that the fields, generated due to the solar activity, earth flows fluctuations, the Earth`s speed of rotation and even the launch of magnetohydrodynamic generators affect the strained state of the earth`s crust, these fields `pumping` additional energy into the crust. Normally the aroused earthquakes are recorded several days after the provoking key event.
Specialists from the Shmidt United Institute for Physics of the Earth, Russian Academy of Sciences, assume that magnetic storms are also powerful enough to quake the earth`s crust. To verify the hypothesis, the researchers compared more than 14,000 earth`s crust vibrations of sufficient power recorded since 1975 in Kazakhstan and Kirgizia, and approximately 350 sudden magnetic storms recorded within the same period by the world geomagnetic observations network.
Geomagnetic storms usually arise due to the high-speed plasma streams ejection on the Sun which accompany the solar flares activity. The air-blast produced by the high-speed plasma streams ejection hits the Earth magnetosphere causing the vibrations. The beginning of the storm which lasts from several hours to several days can be sensed almost simultaneously all over the Earth. Then the storm is replaced by a longer recovery stage, when the Earth magnetic field is gradually restored. At this stage the magnetic field characteristics vary considerably in different latitudes.
The calculations have proved that the greatest number of earthquakes in Kazakhstan and Kirghizia occurs within a several-day period after the beginning of the magnetic storm. Normally the number of earthquakes increases noticeably after a magnetic storm takes place. Nevertheless, in some areas the opposite regularity has been observed. In order to account for other factors (possibly of no less importance), the scientists have tried to trace a connection between the above earthquakes and the tidal fluctuations. However, according to the statistical analysis the tidal fluctuations, unlike geomagnetic storms, have no impact on the earthquakes.
The scientists have also tried to estimate whether the magnetic storm energy is sufficient to provoke an earthquake. In general, the seismic activity releases the energy amount comparable with that carried over by the magnetic storm. However, an earth shock consumes only the hundredth part of the involved resilient energy which triggers the process. Besides, the electromagnetic energy of the storm is being converted into mechanical one through complicated effects in the rocks, for instance piezoelectric effect. The efficiency factor of this conversion makes as little as the hundredth parts of a percent. Therefore, the scientists tend to believe that the magnetic storm acts as the earthquake trigger. The geophysics hope to understand better the physical nature of the trigger effect in the course of the future fieldwork and laboratory experiments.
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| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:52:28
Analysis of planetary seismic characteristics (annual values of total earthquake energy and annual numbers of strong earthquakes) has revealed a dependence of the earth's seismicity on the 11-year solar cycle, the influence of solar activity on seismic processes occurring via atmospheric processes. In the present paper, a thorough analysis of some of the strongest earthquakes is carried out to gain insight into the physical aspects of the relationship between seismicity, solar activity, and atmospheric processes.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979DoSSR.245.1337S |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:10:38
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
Ask yourself this, "If the sun has been less active the last four years why are we experiencing all of these earthquakes?" You do realize there is a connection right? Solar storms effect our planet's molten core.
The US educational system at its finest. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 17:43:21
Oh Pixie you're from the UK. Well, Western control is creeping your way.
7/7 was a set up too. http://youtube.com/results?search_query=7%2F7+bombings+conspiracy&search= |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 17:41:45
Also, if some mainstream media piece is claiming global warming (from carbon emmisions) is real because of this, or that, I won't necessarily believe it. The mainstream media is completely controlled to report whatever the elites instruct them to. Why do you think we Americans are so ignorant about anything other than American Idol. No? How did we come to believe Saddam Hussein was responsible for the attacks of 9/11? Ask yourself this, "If the sun has been less active the last four years why are we experiencing all of these earthquakes?" You do realize there is a connection right? Solar storms effect our planet's molten core.
Watch any of these videos for an example of how much of a sham the mainstrem media is: http://youtube.com/results?search_query=bbc+9%2F11&search= |
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