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hickster9 Posted - 04/27/2007 : 09:53:54
With apologies to the recent Early REM vs. Late REM offered by Simon, I have recently decided that I want to delve into REM more.

Of course I have heard the standard radio fare and like most of that, but I wondered if Tre, Simon, anyone, has a suggestion for where to begin.

I'm the kind of fellow that when I get into something I steer towards completist (though, certainly I can't do that with every band...I've yet to find the forest with all the currency fruits). Should I start at the beginning, a best of, their most commercially successful?

In the past, like with Radiohead, I decided I would start at the beginning and "grow" with the band. But I'm open to suggestions.




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hammerhands Posted - 03/14/2010 : 09:49:39
Here's the glitch for iPods.
http://members.shaw.ca/anyuser9000/RFE.m4a
It's immediately after the first P sound of what
could be interpreted as "People"
coastline Posted - 03/14/2010 : 06:59:09
No glitch on my copy.


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hammerhands Posted - 03/14/2010 : 02:47:36
On my copy of Murmur at 2:06 of Radio Free Europe I
hear a glitch. Can someone confirm this glitch is
not just on my copy? I assume this is either on the
master or this transfer. The UPC is 0-4479-70014-2.

Thanks!
Srisaket Posted - 05/25/2007 : 10:34:46
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Interesting. I've never once heard them compared to the Smiths. Why do you think there's a connection, Srisaket?


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The comparison to the Smiths was made a lot during the 80’s.

Peter Buck and Johnny Marr had a similar style of playing – a strong classic era Byrds influenced ‘jingly-jangly’ thing

Both bands were fronted by whimsical, charismatic singers who wrote cryptic lyrics as well as being ‘sexually ambiguous’

Apart from the musical comparisons, The Smiths and REM made the breakthrough from the independent sector to the mainstream one in the UK and the other in the US at similar times and on their own terms.
pixiestu Posted - 05/25/2007 : 08:37:18
When listening Murmur for the first time I thought there was a definite Smiths sound, and I don't even listen to The Smiths.


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SPEEDYMARIEGONZALES Posted - 05/25/2007 : 07:43:05
I just wanted to mention the song nightswimming
i think that song is great

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coastline Posted - 05/25/2007 : 04:27:29
Interesting. I've never once heard them compared to the Smiths. Why do you think there's a connection, Srisaket?


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Srisaket Posted - 05/25/2007 : 04:04:13
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Srisaket

‘Murmur’ is my personal favourite, I don’t think they ever topped it.

I love "Murmur," too, and consider it among the great rock albums by anyone, but I do think they topped it with "Automatic for the People." For me, that was one of those special, once-in-a-decade albums. And it's just as good today as the day I bought it.


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‘AFTP’ also suffers the curse of being too popular, so many of the tracks were done to death on MTV and of course the bloody Corrs did ‘that’ version of ‘Everybody Hurts’ – if you go to any department store in Bangkok where they are selling home theatre systems, you can guarantee that they will have ‘Everybody Hurts’ by the Corrs or ‘Hotel California’ by the Eagles (acoustic version) being shown on DVD.

I am not sure about the classic tag, for me a lot of the songs are not that good.

‘Murmur’ is, for me anyway, a much stronger album with a distinct ‘vibe’ – after listening to it you can understand why early REM was compared to The Smiths
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 05/25/2007 : 01:44:31
quote:
Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

Like many, I came to REM when Out Of Time came out and for some reason never got round to trying the earlier stuff. I gather this is not cool. Anyway, I think Country Feedback off OOT is amazing. Others I love are Try Not To Breathe (AFTP), What's The Frequency Kenneth & Let Me In (Monster), E-bow The Letter (NAIHF) and All The Way To Reno/Imitation Of Life (Reveal).

Godspeed

You have chosen... well.

Having come to everything all at once with REM, I like different albums for different reasons. However, I'd certainly recommend getting Murmur or Life's Rich Pageant next.


OLDMANOTY Posted - 05/25/2007 : 01:35:32
Like many, I came to REM when Out Of Time came out and for some reason never got round to trying the earlier stuff. I gather this is not cool. Anyway, I think Country Feedback off OOT is amazing. Others I love are Try Not To Breathe (AFTP), What's The Frequency Kenneth & Let Me In (Monster), E-bow The Letter (NAIHF) and All The Way To Reno/Imitation Of Life (Reveal).

Godspeed
pixiestu Posted - 05/24/2007 : 15:24:59
I haven't been this into a band since I first started listening to the Pixies. I got Monster and love it, 'Tongue' especially.

However, I listened to 'Murmur' and was quite disappointed. It just didn't grab me. That is only after one listen though.

Next on the list is 'Up'. The songs I've heard from it seem to be really good. 'At My Most Beautiful' is a lovely song.


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Czar Posted - 05/22/2007 : 09:02:36
Life's Rich Pageant is a must for anybody who wants to understand what REM was all about.

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coastline Posted - 05/22/2007 : 08:57:16
quote:
Originally posted by Srisaket

‘Murmur’ is my personal favourite, I don’t think they ever topped it.

I love "Murmur," too, and consider it among the great rock albums by anyone, but I do think they topped it with "Automatic for the People." For me, that was one of those special, once-in-a-decade albums. And it's just as good today as the day I bought it.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Srisaket Posted - 05/22/2007 : 08:10:02
I haven’t got all that REM did, sort of gave up listening after ‘New Adventures in Hi-Fi’.

‘Murmur’ is my personal favourite, I don’t think they ever topped it. ‘Reckonings’ is also pretty good, very much in the same vein as ‘Murmur’ but the songs are not quite up to the same standard. ‘Document’ is good.

I can still listen to ‘Out of Time’ and ‘AFTP’, but skip quite a few tracks on both. One is a bit cheesy in parts and the other plain maudlin.

‘Monster’ polarizes the opinions of many REM fans, some see it as a return to a more basic rock sound, and for others it shamelessly copied grunge to make a fast buck. I think its unfairly maligned, it has a few good songs, but overall it is probably not REM’s best work.
pixiestu Posted - 05/18/2007 : 17:10:50
I think me mam might have "Green" on a tape somewhere. I'll have to try dig it out. Listening to R.E.M now I can't understand why I never bothered to check them out properly before.


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SPEEDYMARIEGONZALES Posted - 05/18/2007 : 08:16:40

i first saw rem
9/30/84 University of Florida, Gainesville, FL
i think i like the early stuff

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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/18/2007 : 04:39:20
That's one of my favourite REM songs Stu. Check the album out, I think you'd like it, and Green.


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pixiestu Posted - 05/17/2007 : 16:50:32
Ahh, this thread is relevant to me at the moment. I've only just started listening to R.E.M properly. I'd heard "Automatic for the People" and loved it.
I've got that one, plus "New Adventures in HiFi", "Out of Time", "Reveal" and "Around the Sun". I've only really listened to "Out of Time" out of those and think it's great.

Also, I've got "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?" from "Monster" on my ipod. I must've listened to that one song alone literally about a hundred times in the last week. I get really obsessive when I find a song I like. I just can't stop listening to it. It's fantastic!

Looks like I'll try to get hold of "Murmur" next.


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hickster9 Posted - 05/07/2007 : 09:13:39
Well, I went with Murmur to begin (again) with. Now that I listen though, I swear I had this on tape way back when. Anywho, it's great and I plan to go chronologically. Thanks all!




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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/30/2007 : 05:48:58
Murmur.


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yingguoguizi Posted - 04/29/2007 : 09:10:52
probably going to be shot down here, but I think the newer stuff is pretty interesting. UP is one of my best albums, and it was the one that made them relevant again. Reveal is a perfect summer album. The earlier stuff is great but I liked the newer stuff first so I guess that's why it remains the best for me.
Daisy Girl Posted - 04/28/2007 : 12:48:47
I agree with Jeffrey Eponymous is a good place to start. I started being familiar with their work. I bought Green because when that came out I was at the age I was first getting into alternative rock. I then bought Epynomous which was like a pre green best of and was a great way to get into their earlier stuff...

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Cheeseman1000 Posted - 04/28/2007 : 03:42:59
Another vote for Murmur here - from my experimentations, I think starting at the beginning with REM is a very good idea. You can really trace the progression, whether or not you like their later material.


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Jefrey Posted - 04/27/2007 : 12:29:49
The weird thing is that I prefer the early to middle stuff, but if I started from scratch today I probably wouldn't like it. It think at the time it came out, it was vital and new alternative college radio, and it was one of the distinctive sounds of the day. But does it hold up if you weren't there at the time? I don't know, maybe not. It;s more of a nostalgic thing more me.

I'd get "Eponymous" if it still exists and start from there.

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coastline Posted - 04/27/2007 : 10:24:05
Starting at the beginning and moving forward chronologically makes the most sense to me. Let us know where you stop and get off the R.E.M. train. For me, it was "Automatic for the People," in 1992. That one's my favorite -- and I liked all the ones before it -- but me an' R.E.M. lost touch after that. ("Around the Sun" intrigued me, though. Maybe they'll be great again.)


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TRANSMARINE Posted - 04/27/2007 : 10:01:58
I would suggest steering clear altogether.

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darwin Posted - 04/27/2007 : 10:01:35
I would say start with Murmur (their first LP), but then I substantially prefer early REM. Alternatively, you could start more in the middle with Life's Rich Pageant, on which they've branched out more but still have their college radio vibe (pre-Losing My Religion).

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