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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 01:55:13
"I couldn't care less" = I have no interest in this subject.
"I could care less" = I have some interest in this subject.
Apparently people can't work this out, so I thought I'd clarify. End of announcement.
 Numberwang? |
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 05:36:51
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
I've never heard anyone say "I could care less" but it just sounds wrong.
"The arc of triumph"
I've never heard anyone say it, but I have read it many times on here.
It's an American thing.
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| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 02/18/2007 : 13:55:33
Really? I hear it all the time. I've never heard anyone say "I couldn't care less", except me but I hardly say either anyway.
It does bother me, too.
"Am I the one you're thinking of
when the sun goes down into the water...?" |
| pixiestu |
Posted - 02/13/2007 : 05:42:51
I've never heard anyone say "I could care less" but it just sounds wrong.
"The arc of triumph" |
| jimmy |
Posted - 02/13/2007 : 01:58:17
I agree, "I could care less" is wrong, completely, and it used to bother me, but I've thought a lot about it and I think it's alright because "I could care less" just sounds better than "I couldn't care less", a lot better, for whatever reason. That's it. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 01:56:59
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu
"Could care less" annoys me but I'm sure most people say stuff that isn't right without even realsing. Like when the English (well, most of us) use 'me' instead of 'my', or 'us' instead of 'me'.
It's like Newo says, as long as people get what you mean from the context, it shouldn't really matter.
"The arc of triumph"
But then, it is a text-based internet forum...
Numberwang? |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 11:06:02
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
We look to Los Angeles,
For the language we use,
London is dead
London is dead
London is dead.
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea.
So too much then???
I know, they just come to mind sometimes.
C, you post lyrics like Carl posts articles.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea.
You quote badly too ; )
No of course not too much. I just noticed that you do it a lot. You must have a very good memory for such things. I'm crap at remembering quotes and lyrics. I believe it was....some...man that said....something.
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| pixiestu |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 09:00:32
"Could care less" annoys me but I'm sure most people say stuff that isn't right without even realsing. Like when the English (well, most of us) use 'me' instead of 'my', or 'us' instead of 'me'.
It's like Newo says, as long as people get what you mean from the context, it shouldn't really matter.
"The arc of triumph" |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 06:20:51
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
We look to Los Angeles,
For the language we use,
London is dead
London is dead
London is dead.
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea.
So too much then???
I know, they just come to mind sometimes.
C, you post lyrics like Carl posts articles.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 05:58:58
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
We look to Los Angeles,
For the language we use,
London is dead
London is dead
London is dead.
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea.
C, you post lyrics like Carl posts articles.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Newo |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 05:37:16
Simon in Spain, "discusión" means argument, so Pistols at dawn! ha just kidding...
these days they way I like to tell if comeone feels positive or negative about something is to listen to the tone, to me it carries a strong current of intention, being borne of feeling - literally making sense like you sez - rather than something cerebral. okay you got the guidelines going on, that's cool. who am I to say who is right or wrong¿
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 14:16:26
We look to Los Angeles,
For the language we use,
London is dead
London is dead
London is dead.
__________
For Chrissakes have a cup of tea. |
| BLT |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 12:53:02
Cheeseman is right. Best thread ever.
 Bolo beat up skinny white man. |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 10:42:25
quote:
Originally posted by Newo
quote:
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 02/08/2007 : 07:15:27
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quote:
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Originally posted by Newo
DICTIONARY, n.
A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
I'd also take the tone of "I could care less" into account, depending on what kind of current you use it can mean either I do or don't care.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now!
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But saying "I could care less" meaning "I couldn't care less" doesn't make sense. You're saying the opposite of what you mean, I'm not sure a language progressing or regressing has anything to do with it.
when I'd been writing a few years I came to feel that mostly folk use words to cover up how they feel, and since then I don't see language as this hard code that if you put certain words in a certain order it equals a certain meaning anymore so much as a slippery little thing entirely subject to the tone it is delivered in. Sometimes when talking to people I stop listening to their words and listen to the ondulation of their tone beneath it, the rhythm of their pauses, and I feel like I understand what they're trying to express much better. Maybe it's funny that I work as a writer and I have close to zero respect for words, just I find it much more revealing to listen to the music beneath them.
Scuse the longish post, I'll finish by saying I like these phrases we have that mean more than one thing, at first it irritated me that young Americans would refer to something desirable as "sick" and something not desirable as "sick" until I realised I was becoming more sensitised to the current of their feeling beneath the words.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now!
I think that's completely different. Terms for what people like and don't like have evolved as long as the English language has existed (I like one I heard recently, you can describe something as "book" if you like it, because it comes up when you enter "cool" on a phone with predictive typing). But certain hard and fast rules have remained and not changed, for example, conditionals like 'could', and the concept of positive and negative.
If one is trying to make a point to someone else, whether it be an an online message board (where you don't get the undulations and nuances to which you refer) or in real life, you're not going to make any sense unless you apply certain rules, surely?
(Sorry, btw, I don't want to make this an argument, more a discussion. I've seen this expression defended to the hilt with no real reason why ever given. Please don't get the impression that my grammar is by any means perfect...)
Numberwang? |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 10:28:12
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
quote:
Originally posted by Newo
DICTIONARY, n.
A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
I'd also take the tone of "I could care less" into account, depending on what kind of current you use it can mean either I do or don't care.
--
Gravy boat! Stay in the now!
But saying "I could care less" meaning "I couldn't care less" doesn't make sense. You're saying the opposite of what you mean, I'm not sure a language progressing or regressing has anything to do with it.
Numberwang?
I agree. It's the same with double negatives. Very annoying.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Newo |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 09:14:49
quote:
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 02/08/2007 : 07:15:27
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quote:
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Originally posted by Newo
DICTIONARY, n.
A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
I'd also take the tone of "I could care less" into account, depending on what kind of current you use it can mean either I do or don't care.
--
Gravy boat! Stay in the now!
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But saying "I could care less" meaning "I couldn't care less" doesn't make sense. You're saying the opposite of what you mean, I'm not sure a language progressing or regressing has anything to do with it.
when I'd been writing a few years I came to feel that mostly folk use words to cover up how they feel, and since then I don't see language as this hard code that if you put certain words in a certain order it equals a certain meaning anymore so much as a slippery little thing entirely subject to the tone it is delivered in. Sometimes when talking to people I stop listening to their words and listen to the ondulation of their tone beneath it, the rhythm of their pauses, and I feel like I understand what they're trying to express much better. Maybe it's funny that I work as a writer and I have close to zero respect for words, just I find it much more revealing to listen to the music beneath them.
Scuse the longish post, I'll finish by saying I like these phrases we have that mean more than one thing, at first it irritated me that young Americans would refer to something desirable as "sick" and something not desirable as "sick" until I realised I was becoming more sensitised to the current of their feeling beneath the words.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
| HeywoodJablome |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 07:53:19
While we're on the subject. How's about the difference between,
"Not giving a fuck"
&
"Not giving a rat's ass"?
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 07:15:27
quote:
Originally posted by Newo
DICTIONARY, n.
A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
I'd also take the tone of "I could care less" into account, depending on what kind of current you use it can mean either I do or don't care.
--
Gravy boat! Stay in the now!
But saying "I could care less" meaning "I couldn't care less" doesn't make sense. You're saying the opposite of what you mean, I'm not sure a language progressing or regressing has anything to do with it.
Numberwang? |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 06:42:33
This isn't growth, this is definitley a regression.
And wrong.
Idiot. |
| Newo |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 06:27:19
DICTIONARY, n.
A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
I'd also take the tone of "I could care less" into account, depending on what kind of current you use it can mean either I do or don't care.
--
Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 05:49:30
What's it all aboot eh?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| starmekitten |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 03:23:18
If there's one thing I've learned since working in Schools it's you don't make fun of the simple of brain. So Canada I mentally pat on the head and consider it's not their fault.
Idiot. |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 02:57:28
What about Canada?
Unicorns and brownies |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 02:26:02
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
"I couldn't care less" = I have no interest in this subject.
"I could care less" = I have some interest in this subject.
Apparently people can't work this out, so I thought I'd clarify. End of announcement.
Thank you! This irritates me more than it should. I used to wonder who on earth could mess up this fairly basic statement. Then I remembered America.
Idiot. |
| kelladwella |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 02:02:30
I could. |
| vilainde |
Posted - 02/08/2007 : 01:59:18
I couldn't care less.
(well, someone had to do it...)
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
