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| edbanky |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 10:04:44
In the states it changes; right now I think it's either African American or Afro-American or People of Color. I have always wondered if they're called African British or African Britons or African Belgians or Afro-Dutch or Afro-Luxembourgers or whatever in other locales. Also, I have an American friend from South Africa; she's white as Frank's palms, but I still think of her as African American. Should I refer to her black if that's how I refer to other people of African heritage?
Anyway, non-Americans, what term do you use when referring to individuals of African descent? Just curious?
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| jtjcp88 |
Posted - 07/14/2006 : 03:59:22
Well, yes obviously, you can tell from the tone and context in which it was said if its humurous or actually being used in a derogatory way. But still, I would feel very uncomfortable around this woman if she constantly used the word Paki.
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/14/2006 : 01:25:16
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Originally posted by jtjcp88
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
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Originally posted by jtjcp88
Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.
"Dance at my party."
I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.
She's a classy bird.
 I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid
Lol. That's nuts. I eman my best friend is Pakistani and as a joke between the both of us I often call him Paki, but to think that would entitle me to call Asians Pakis is ludacris. Does the husband with what she does?
"Dance at my party."
I think Mo actively encourages it, to be honest. I think usually its fairly clearcut if you're using this in a derogatory way, and to assume everyone'll jump to offence is not always true.
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| s_wrenn |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 18:00:08
Ali G:
"It is important never to forget where u all came from — becoz black, white, brown or pakistani we all come from de same place — de punani."
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| El Loco |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 17:53:47
racism really is horrible. i just try to make light of it all. we're all the same color from the inside. well my heart is blacker than some |
| Carl |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 17:12:11
I'm sick of those damn honkies.
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| El Loco |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 16:15:22
off topic people, this is about nigs not pakis |
| jtjcp88 |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 15:49:28
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
quote:
Originally posted by jtjcp88
Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.
"Dance at my party."
I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.
She's a classy bird.
I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid
Lol. That's nuts. I eman my best friend is Pakistani and as a joke between the both of us I often call him Paki, but to think that would entitle me to call Asians Pakis is ludacris. Does the husband with what she does?
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| Erebus |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 15:45:47
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Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai
I remember when my friend came strolling into class one time quietly singing, "There was a man from Pakistan-" and the teacher just interrupted him right there and said, "If you're going to be racist you can get out."
He told me later that he didn't even know what he was going to sing for the second line.
Sounds like it was the teacher who was prejudiced, in that it was he/she that "prejudged".
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| s_wrenn |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 14:51:56
Two of my friends were hanging out in the park once. One has Pakistani parents, but he was born and raised in Ireland. He's a typical Irish fella and see's himself that way, as an Irishman (He even learned Gaelic in school, which is a pain in the balls people). The other guy is a lanky white dude.
Someone passing by yelled in their direction "Packie". The guy with Pakistani parents got pissed of and started to hurl abuse back at him. A short shouting match began between the two and after a while the passer-by walked away, As he did so he turned around to the two and said "See ya around man"
Turns out he was a friend of the lanky dude, who's nickname was Packie Bonner, the lanky Irish goalie.
True story.
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| Suicide_Samurai |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 14:49:30
I remember when my friend came strolling into class one time quietly singing, "There was a man from Pakistan-" and the teacher just interrupted him right there and said, "If you're going to be racist you can get out."
He told me later that he didn't even know what he was going to sing for the second line. |
| speedy_m |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 14:26:18
"This guy does the best Ali G impression... aiight. I can't do it but..."
"I don't..."
"Oh! Sorry, it's the other one..."
"The other... Paki?"
Tsk. "That's racist."
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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| starmekitten |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 14:21:21
It's used to describe anyone Asian, it's turned into a nasty insult. Brown skin - must be a paki. It's ridiculous, it's not even older folks who have the generation gap to blame. My friend who was born in Wales but her parents are from India has had it shouted at her. Not in my hearing I might add or I would have beaten them to within an inch of their worthless lives. |
| edbanky |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 13:32:10
I have a feeling that there are relatively more people from Pakistan in the UK and Europe at large, but I never had any idea that Paki was considered a derogatory term.
My not racist step dad would always use the term in/outside of the company of his Pakistani(?) acquaintences in Saudi Arabia. I grew up assuming that was The word that meant "someone from Pakistan."
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| Erebus |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 13:22:46
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by Erebus
A classic case may be the “N-word”, which was derived from "niger", which is Latin for black. I don’t know my history but I would guess that somewhere classically educated white people applied the term in a non-racist fashion
I think you're being charitable. My guess that way when the "N word" was being coined educated white people thought Africans weren't even the same species as themselves.
You're probably correct.
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| darwin |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 12:59:06
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
A classic case may be the “N-word”, which was derived from "niger", which is Latin for black. I don’t know my history but I would guess that somewhere classically educated white people applied the term in a non-racist fashion
I think you're being charitable. My guess that way when the "N word" was being coined educated white people thought Africans weren't even the same species as themselves.
I tend to think "black" is an acceptable term, but some contexts I stick to "African American". |
| El Loco |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 12:48:08
down with whitey |
| Erebus |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 11:15:58
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Originally posted by ScottP
What I would like to know is who is the person or group responsible for changing what is the oppropriate term. They seem to stay one step ahead of the general population to keep us all guessing, or in many ways, feeling insensitive.
I hope at their next name changing meeting some one stands up and says, "OK, this one is final, final, final. This term is THE one we will stand by and accept for all eternity. And no do-overs."
I think what happens is that after a term becomes accepted it is then used in a derogatory manner and tone by those so inclined, until those who are offended protest that the term is an insult. So a new label is born and adopted by people of good intent. Then the process begins again. Racists use the new term derogatorily until those insulted insist upon a new label that lacks the racist baggage. A classic case may be the “N-word”, which was derived from "niger", which is Latin for black. I don’t know my history but I would guess that somewhere classically educated white people applied the term in a non-racist fashion, much as we would use “black” today, but then the term quickly became a racist insult. My guess is that as racism slowly recedes, eventually a term will stick, though remaining racists will continue to use the term insultingly.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 11:11:43
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
quote:
Originally posted by jtjcp88
Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.
"Dance at my party."
I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.
I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid
That reminds me of an episode of Seinfeld. The one where Elaine thinks she's dating a black man.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 10:53:01
quote:
Originally posted by jtjcp88
Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.
"Dance at my party."
I know a girl who's married to a Pakistani guy, and she refers to people as Pakis. She always follows it by saying, it's ok, I can say that because I'm banging one.
She's a classy bird.
I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 10:33:29
quote:
Originally posted by ScottP
What I would like to know is who is the person or group responsible for changing what is the oppropriate term.
Snoop Dog!
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| ScottP |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 10:14:33
What I would like to know is who is the person or group responsible for changing what is the oppropriate term. They seem to stay one step ahead of the general population to keep us all guessing, or in many ways, feeling insensitive.
I hope at their next name changing meeting some one stands up and says, "OK, this one is final, final, final. This term is THE one we will stand by and accept for all eternity. And no do-overs." |
| lonely persuader |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 08:58:57
black is fine, never was wrong to use it? or am i wrong. |
| jtjcp88 |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 08:32:11
Have you ever been in a situation, usually with older people, who still use words such as Paki, and coloureds? It's very uncomfortable.
"Dance at my party." |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 07:31:22
Reminds me of Gangs Of New York.
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 07:30:27
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Originally posted by Thomas
It’s settled then. Everyone must now call us Native Americans. That should reduce all uncertainty from this point forward.
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Originally posted by s_wrenn
I never understood the phrases "African-American", "Italian-American", "Irish-American", etc. If your born in America, your American, and that's it.
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
Actually, that's another one I don't really like, "native".
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| edbanky |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 07:24:59
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
We're all just passengers on spaceship earth people!
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Wait a minute, strike that. Reverse it.
Passengers
On
Spaceship
Earth
We should call each other Pose(s).
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| HeywoodJablome |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 07:17:24
We're all just passengers on spaceship earth people!
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Wait a minute, strike that. Reverse it. |
| Carl |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 06:48:48
And Native-Americans should be referred to as Native-American Americans. ;)
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| Thomas |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 05:53:15
It’s settled then. Everyone must now call us Native Americans. That should reduce all uncertainty from this point forward.
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Originally posted by s_wrenn
I never understood the phrases "African-American", "Italian-American", "Irish-American", etc. If your born in America, your American, and that's it.
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| pixiestu |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 05:27:11
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Originally posted by Carl
Gareth: "My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrasing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'."
Ha. I knew it. I was just waiting for that exact quote from Carl!
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| a guy in a rover |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 05:24:48
Ask Ron Atkinson.
I heard he was au fait with all this political corectness mumbo jumbo.
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| Carl |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 18:08:36
Gareth: "My dad, for example, he's not as cosmopolitan or as educated as me and it can be embarrasing you know. He doesn't understand all the new trendy words - like he'll say 'poofs' instead of 'gays', 'birds' instead of 'women', 'darkies' instead of 'coloureds'."
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| El Loco |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 16:26:24
The real question is how do you address a wigga.
noe wat i'm sayin' yo |
| edbanky |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 15:31:59
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
quote:
Originally posted by edbanky
In the states it changes; right now I think it's either African American or Afro-American or People of Color.
I've never heard anyone say People of Color. Even racists don't say that. You're wrong about that one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p61mD558egA
Hmmm . . .
I've read/observed black leaders and/or so-called advocates use terms like "people of color" on numerous occasions--too numerous to consider listing.
Here's a few examples though (from the first page of Google results):
http://www.pocc.org/
http://katrina.mayfirst.org/
http://www.nopcas.com/
Granted, the term is used both to refer to blacks specifically and "minorities" in-general but it's used profusely.
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| s_wrenn |
Posted - 07/12/2006 : 14:09:38
I never understood the phrases "African-American", "Italian-American", "Irish-American", etc. If your born in America, your American, and that's it. There's no need to add on more to the title. It just makes it sound like segregation within nationality.
I don't think i ever refer to someone as "that black guy/girl". "guy" or "girl" on it's own seems to suffice. But i can see how it is more precise when in a crowded place.
And "People Of Colour" sounds like some kind of Hippy cult who take acid for breakfast.
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