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| jimmy |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 04:32:30
None of this is breaking news, but...
At the age of 26, Tanya Donelly put out "Star"
after 4 albums w/ Throwing Muses & 1 album w/ the Breeders.
Kristin Hersh was 24 the year "The Real Ramona" came out
& 28 the year of "Hips & Makers".
FB was 28 when he put out his first solo record
& 29 for "Teenager of the Year".
Once you're in your twenties, 24 isn't some old person's age anymore, and you start to make some unpleasant comparisons.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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| Erebus |
Posted - 01/20/2007 : 23:38:02
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream
I think Nietzsche was a professor of Classical Philology at 24 years of age.
EDIT: Thanks, Erebus. Always appreciated.
Hope I didn't come off as a jerk. Nietzsche's one of my faves so his name caught my eye and then I got motivated.
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| Carl |
Posted - 01/20/2007 : 08:48:45
I'm not yet ten years older than that, and I've written a good few tunes. Why can't fame just fall into my lap? I have to work for it?!
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| pixiestu |
Posted - 01/20/2007 : 06:20:42
I've written hundreds of songs. I think I am due a good one.
"The arc of triumph" |
| coastline |
Posted - 01/20/2007 : 05:41:13
quote:
Originally posted by houstonguthrie
they (Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan, countless others) say that songwriting is like a muscle that you have to exercise. I sometimes think that I'm too hung up on writing my first great song - when what I should do is just write my first 20 bad songs - just get the ol juices flowing.
Great comment. It would also be appropriate in the Songwriters as Good as Frank thread. I don't think anybody's mentioned Woody Guthrie in that thread yet, but he definitely belongs. Woody was one of Dylan's hugest influences. I love Dylan's "Song to Woody" and "Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie." Here were some genius pieces that Dylan probably cranked out in one sitting, over two cups of coffee and a pack of cigarettes or whatever. By that point in his career (and it was really early on), his ol juices were definitely flowing.
 And aren't you havin' fun? |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 01/20/2007 : 04:15:08
quote:
Originally posted by houstonguthrie
I sometimes think that I'm too hung up on writing my first great song - when what I should do is just write my first 20 bad songs - just get the ol juices flowing.
I think you just hit the nail on the head.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| houstonguthrie |
Posted - 01/19/2007 : 16:50:29
to me it's songwriting that is the key
guitar players are a dime a dozen. I can rock it up with the best of them - but I can't write a song - or haven't yet anyways. and to me that is where the difference lies. I mean think of all those incredible Frank songs - or Dylan songs - or whoever - and you just thought it was so mind blowing when you heard it. What the hell is he playing there? and then you get the tab or whatever and find out the whole thing was just C - F - G.
I'm amazed at how so many great incredible songs are built around the same simple chords. And where do they come up with the melodies? how many times have I pulled up the tab to some incredible Frank tune that I always wanted to learn but never attempted and then found out the whole thing was built around a simple 2 or 3 chord progression
songwriting is something that just baffles me. That's why I hold Frank up in such high regard - cuz he just churns those great tunes out one after another after another and it seems so effortless - he just has the gift.
they (Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan, countless others) say that songwriting is like a muscle that you have to exercise. I sometimes think that I'm too hung up on writing my first great song - when what I should do is just write my first 20 bad songs - just get the ol juices flowing.
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 01/19/2007 : 05:01:40
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Oh well I tried. I guess you really do little.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Was that intended?
Yeah, what with him being in a Pixies tribute band n all. Nobody appreciates my genius.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| coastline |
Posted - 01/18/2007 : 21:10:27
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
Nietzsche is my candidate for possibly the most intelligent person who ever lived, especially in regard to insight into the human condition. He was also a lonely mofo who couldn't get laid if his life depended on it.
You're actually thinking of Morrissey.
And aren't you havin' fun? |
| Erebus |
Posted - 01/18/2007 : 20:47:42
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream
I think Nietzsche was a professor of physiology at 24 years of age.
"Nietzsche was considered to be a most particularly brilliant student and was appointed professor of classical philology at the University of Basel at the young age of 24 - at which time he had not yet been awarded a doctoral degree! When his doctoral degree was awarded it was actually awarded without examination!!!" http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/philosophy/nietzsche.html
"Philology, etymologically, is the love of words. It is most accurately defined as an affinity toward the learning of the backgrounds as well as the current usages of spoken or written methods of human communication." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology (I offer the definition because people hardly ever refer to philology nowadays.)
I hopped on this because I caught at a glance IceCream's post from last April, and knew it wasn't physiology. I like this resurrection of old topics that has been going on lately. Nietzsche is my candidate for possibly the most intelligent person who ever lived, especially in regard to insight into the human condition. He was also a lonely mofo who couldn't get laid if his life depended on it.
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| IceCream |
Posted - 01/18/2007 : 19:24:09
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Oh well I tried. I guess you really do little.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
Was that intended? |
| Carl |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:26:28
The guys a genius.
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| floop |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:18:11
Issac Hanson wrote "MMMBop" when he was 14
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
| IceCream |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:14:23
I think Nietzsche was a professor of Classical Philology at 24 years of age.
EDIT: Thanks, Erebus. Always appreciated. |
| Carl |
Posted - 03/25/2006 : 17:09:29
I'm sure there's an interview with Black on the Doolitte tour, and the writer points out that he's 'still only at the enviable age of 22', or something like that.
 pas de dutchie! |
| kathryn |
Posted - 03/25/2006 : 10:34:27
Frank: "I was 26 when the band broke up. We'd already made 5 records."
I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:28:30
Oh well I tried. I guess you really do little.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Doog |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:25:24
Haha. I've written some songs, it's not like I do it for a living.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 04:59:22
quote:
Originally posted by Doog
Depressing. I'm 24 in a few months and have done shit-all with my life.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo
I wouldn't say that. How about the music for starters?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 03:50:43
I like your songs doog
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God save the Noisies |
| Doog |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 03:18:16
Depressing. I'm 24 in a few months and have done shit-all with my life.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 14:13:31
I KNEW Dean would appreciate it.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 06:21:39
Homer-Carl-Homer = Dean laughing.
 "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| Cheeseman1000 |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 04:58:49
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Brian Wilson was 23 when he made Pet Sounds, regardless if you like the record (I fuckin' do)
that album was a great produtional achievement (a subtle wall of sound), plus the music is pretty complex.
The fact that Brian worked alone as a producer (unlike the beatles) makes it even more mindbreaking
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God save the Noisies
This is the most impressive one yet. I'm 23, I can barely tie my own shoelaces, let alone write, produce and perform one of the greatest albums of all time.
 I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 04:37:56
There is another?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Carl |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 23:23:52
What's with all the Star Wars qoutes lately?! :)
pas de dutchie! |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 13:15:52
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| VoVat |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 13:13:24
Well, it's good to know there's still hope for me, at 28! Too bad I can't sing or play any instruments.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 21:21:24
Heh heh, that confused me too. It would seem our forum clock is wrong - it's currently 9:30 Pacific, isn't it?
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
| Superabounder |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 21:07:03
Speaking of that former 24 year old: he is supposed to do a Q&A tonight according to his posts in the FB making noise board at 10PM pacific!
I tend to think of human beings as huge rubbery test tubes, too, with chemical reactions seething inside |
| Jason |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 20:23:35
Plenty of music folks hit their artistic peak later. And then the fact that they're older is sometimes a part of WHY people like them so much. They're older and sort of "above" the twentysomethings, sometimes attracting an older, less fickle, more appreciative audience. And they're often more down to earth (or seen as such, at least) because they didn't spend their 20s in a spotlight. They were WORKING at a JOB and maybe even had a family.
Johnny Dowd was in his 60s he became a full-time musician. I don't know what he was doing in his 20s.
Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices was 36 when he not only hit his stride artistically, but also when he got noticed.
One of my very favorite musicians, Stew (of the Negro Problem, but his solo work seems to have eclipsed that), was at least in his late 30s when he started putting out records in the late 90s.
A lot country music guys didn't get going professionally until at least their 30s. |
| MissMaceo |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 19:53:37
I can't believe it's been so long since that came out. It's been like a lifetime ago....man.......
"I find that on the internet, everyone's very tough in an anonymous, pussy sort of way'" - Josh Homme. March '05 |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 12:28:32
Brian Wilson was 23 when he made Pet Sounds, regardless if you like the record (I fuckin' do)
that album was a great produtional achievement (a subtle wall of sound), plus the music is pretty complex.
The fact that Brian worked alone as a producer (unlike the beatles) makes it even more mindbreaking
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God save the Noisies |
| Newo |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 05:22:55
Thanks Jimmy, glad you liked the story. Next time I have one out or feel it could use an edit I´ll let you know.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
| Carl |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 18:42:12
I'm gonna wait till I'm 90 and become famous.
pas de dutchie! |
| floop |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 17:06:07
Hal Ashby didn't start making films till he was 40. HAROLD AND MAUDE is better than CITIZEN KANE.
the moral of the story is, you've got plenty of time to slack off and do it later. have a beer |
