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| chickenwithtwoheads |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 03:37:02
Abu Ghraib was not an incident.
Read all 8 pages.
Man, this is disgusting
New York Times, today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html?hp&ex=1116648000&en=6cca0512a38427c3&ei=5094&partner=homepage
"One of the coroners later translated the assessment at a pre-trial hearing for Specialist Brand, saying the tissue in the young man's legs "had basically been pulpified."
"I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus," added Lt. Col. Elizabeth Rouse, the coroner, and a major at that time."
I'm tall, I'm Dutch, and Kathryn is still married to her wine connaisseur |
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| kathryn |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 09:16:48
today i once again saw a bumpersticker that said
"give war a chance". it wasn't ironic or funny, but
a true sentiment among some americans, many of whom
think nothing wrong happened in abu gharib.
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| mun chien andalusia |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 07:24:50
despite what people think about right or wrong wars the result is always the same. no army is innocent of torture. assyrians, egyptians, greeks, romans, chinese, spanish, british, french, germans,russians etc etc used torture. did you people really think that the american army is any better? it's not about nationality, it's about armies which are meant to achieve a goal with any means.
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| Carl |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 06:01:19
First, they carpet bomb the country, then seemingly round up people indiscriminately. I mean, It's the behaviour of a facist, dictatorial regime.
But with President Bush's final determination in February 2002 that the Conventions did not apply to the conflict with Al Qaeda and that Taliban fighters would not be accorded the rights of prisoners of war, the interrogators believed they "could deviate slightly from the rules," said one of the Utah reservists, Sgt. James A. Leahy.
That's not justice, whatever you feel about the Taliban.
"We sometimes developed a rapport with detainees, and Sergeant Loring would sit us down and remind us that these were evil people and talk about 9/11 and they weren't our friends and could not be trusted," Mr. Leahy said.
It sounds like they recruited young, inexperienced soldiers with no proper training in running a detention center. They could of had any psychotic thug in there.
Despite repeated requests, the M.P.'s were assigned no interpreters of their own. Instead, they borrowed from the interrogators when they could and relied on prisoners who spoke even a little English to translate for them.
When the detainees were beaten or kicked for "noncompliance," one of the interpreters, Ali M. Baryalai said, it was often "because they have no idea what the M.P. is saying."
Thats' just ridiculous.
When Specialist Cammack turned back toward the prisoner, he said in one statement, Mr. Habibullah's spit hit his chest. Later, Specialist Cammack acknowledged, "I'm not sure if he spit at me." But at the time, he exploded, yelling, "Don't ever spit on me again!" and kneeing the prisoner sharply in the thigh, "maybe a couple" of times. Mr. Habibullah's limp body swayed back and forth in the chains.
He could of dribbled on him or anything.
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