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TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/06/2005 : 14:28:13
...a beer-belly without giving up the sauce? I'm 6'0, 175 lbs...height/weight proportioned, and not in bad physical shape without having gone to the gym now for a couple years (lazy). However, my metabolism seems to be slowing as I get older (I'm almost 34), and it shows in the gut. Any exorcise/nutrition tips to shed this area a bit without being too strenuous? I know running helps, and I used to run a lot, however shin-splints have lately become a bore.

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VoVat Posted - 05/07/2005 : 16:28:23
Then what university IS in Cornball?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 05/07/2005 : 15:48:52
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by darwin

I know a guy (a assistant professor or whatever you call them over there) in the UK who is on the UK national ultimate team. Or at least, that's what he tells me.



You mean a lecturer? I hope it's not the same guy (after I have insulted him and all) plant biochemist this guy, name of Hooks? can't dance for shit (but makes mean eggnog)?

I just googled UK national team and I don't think there is one, there seems to be about a hundred.

looks tiring this frisbee game.


meeting people is easy



That's it. He's a lecturer at Exeter in Cornwell. I think that's a new university. But, I don't think it's same guy. The guy I know is originally from South Africa, but seems very British to me.

Man, I love Americans, they crack me up.
Exeter is in Devon, not Cornwall. And its a new university compared to Oxford/Cambridge which are about 800 years old.

Quite why you should be familiar with the details of English geography escapes me, but it tickled me.


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Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 14:45:48
You're quite right, I'm sorry. I promise to pay more attention in future.
VoVat Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:45:19
quote:
*vomits*


No, see, that's not a healthy way to lose weight. Haven't you been paying attention?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
darwin Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:29:47
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

quote:
Originally posted by darwin

I know a guy (a assistant professor or whatever you call them over there) in the UK who is on the UK national ultimate team. Or at least, that's what he tells me.



You mean a lecturer? I hope it's not the same guy (after I have insulted him and all) plant biochemist this guy, name of Hooks? can't dance for shit (but makes mean eggnog)?

I just googled UK national team and I don't think there is one, there seems to be about a hundred.

looks tiring this frisbee game.


meeting people is easy



That's it. He's a lecturer at Exeter in Cornwell. I think that's a new university. But, I don't think it's same guy. The guy I know is originally from South Africa, but seems very British to me.
Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:43:33
*vomits*
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:37:53
Yeah why does that meat (?) taste so good?


I joined the secret forum, and all I got was this lousy secret
starmekitten Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:33:04


mmmm soo wrong


yet so right


meeting people is easy
Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:25:30
You people are sick and beyond help
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:23:42
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

What Cheese - those things that look like Russian shotputers' legs?

Well, I prefer a shish, but yeah, the poodle-meat is good.


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Carolynanna Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:15:54
ahhh thanks tre, I was going to ask you specifically.

So no eating with drinking then.

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This is the war and not the warning.
starmekitten Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:10:47
thats not a clear abstract,
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/1/91


In our study, the effect of the alcohol-rich meal on energy intake was not significantly different from the effects of the other meals. Thus, alcohol did not stimulate energy intake, as was been reported when alcohol was given as an aperitif (52) or with dinner (B Buemann, S Toubro, A Astrup, unpublished observations, 2002). Other studies did not, however, report any difference in energy intake after alcohol compared with carbohydrate or fat intake

no significantly higher calorific intake with alcohol but

After the alcohol meal, net fat oxidation was greatly suppressed, even more than after the carbohydrate meal. Also, carbohydrate oxidation was relatively low after the alcohol meal considering the carbohydrate content in this meal (43% of energy). This was probably due to the fate of acetate, the major product of ethanol metabolism in the liver (59). Acetate is released to the circulation and primarily oxidized, probably with priority over other substrates. Furthermore, acetate released into plasma inhibits lipolysis

are a bit clearer from a later article, fat retention it suggested is caused when consuming alcohol with a meal because the metabolism of alcohol causes production of acetate which inhibits the breakdown of fats..

make more sense?

(and kebabs fucking rock)


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Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:06:31
What Cheese - those things that look like Russian shotputers' legs?
Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:05:06
It's what I know as a "chew & spew"
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:04:36
Also because kebabs = goooooooood eatin'


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Carolynanna Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:04:12
Here we have some very shady hotdog stands outside of pubs.
One tip, don't eat there....mmmmm salmonella.

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This is the war and not the warning.
Carl Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:03:14
It's true, you'll eat dog shit when your drunk! ;)
Surfer Rosa Posted - 05/07/2005 : 08:01:34
Booze makes you eat really stupid food - that is the only possible reason why things like kebab shops exist in England.
Carolynanna Posted - 05/07/2005 : 07:53:05
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/59/3/619

If someone could just translate that for me...
I think its trying to say what I meant about fat retention and alcohol.

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This is the war and not the warning.
Carl Posted - 05/07/2005 : 07:41:24
The water retension thing is pretty much nonsense. It's the sugary content of beer that ads weight.
Daisy Girl Posted - 05/06/2005 : 22:46:50
yoga/pilates... firms your core and is a great place to meet chicks!
NimrodsSon Posted - 05/06/2005 : 18:40:53
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
I know running helps, and I used to run a lot, however shin-splints have lately become a bore.



Shin-splits shouldn't be a problem if you stretch properly before and after and don't over-run. Vary your running also. Rather than running the same thing every day, have on and off days, distance and workout days (such as 800's, hills, etc.; you have to build up your muscles and endurance); and also have on and off weeks--maybe every two or three weeks have an off week where you don't run as far and your workouts aren't as intense. If you do everything properly, you shouldn't have any problems with shin-splints (except perhaps some minor discomfort in the beginning). Sorry if I sound like a cross-country coach.


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Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 05/06/2005 : 17:52:46
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by floop
i know what you mean though. i go running on the beach. the sand is better for my knees. i hate running on cement. but one tip: it's better for you if you run on an incline.. uphill and downhill. give that a go.

then reward yourself with a cold beer



Running up or down hills kills my knees.

If your knees really bother you cycling or swimming is better, but both take more time than running. Other good fat losers are racquetball, basketball, ultimate, anything fun that makes you move alot.



Just 'cause you play raquetball doesn't make you a fat loser! :P


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Carolynanna Posted - 05/06/2005 : 17:14:36
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

That's tough because alcohol slows your testosterone production



i've never heard that. i don't think that's true. my testosterone production seems to be doing fine.

i have gigantic testies



http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0847/is_n2_v15/ai_12490153

"Hypogonadism may be caused by direct effects of alcohol on the testis; it can also be caused by effects of alcohol on parts of the brain that regulate gonadal function."

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This is the war and not the warning.
TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/06/2005 : 17:00:21


Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/06/2005 : 16:44:02
Ok then, maybe if one of your hobbies wasn't pepperoni...


... guitar god potion
TRANSMARINE Posted - 05/06/2005 : 16:30:32
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

it's not a fat belly, it's your liver swelling

mm, poison


... guitar god potion



Actually, it's your belly.

When the liver swells, you can actually see the outline of it above your abdomen.

But, nevertheless, it was funny.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
Little Black Francis Posted - 05/06/2005 : 16:18:34
it's not a fat belly, it's your liver swelling

mm, poison


... guitar god potion
mosleyk Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:57:26
You know, I watched this great show PBS about dieting and overall health. It broke down all the myths, explained everything you ever wanted to know about all the fad diets out there (atkins, south beach, etc.) You name it! It was the best, most accurate documentary on the subject I had ever seen. I tried doing a search on the PBS website for it, and couldn't find it. (Unfortunately I don't remember the title.)Which is quite sad, since I would recommend watching it for anyone wanting to improve their overall health and/or belly.

Basically the bottom line is eat less calories (focusing on good fats, carbs, proteins and of course fruit/vegs) and exercise more. The only way to do that is to educate yourself on what your are eating and how much your burning.
starmekitten Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:52:56
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

I know a guy (a assistant professor or whatever you call them over there) in the UK who is on the UK national ultimate team. Or at least, that's what he tells me.



You mean a lecturer? I hope it's not the same guy (after I have insulted him and all) plant biochemist this guy, name of Hooks? can't dance for shit (but makes mean eggnog)?

I just googled UK national team and I don't think there is one, there seems to be about a hundred.

looks tiring this frisbee game.


meeting people is easy
PixieSteve Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:40:10
i know a guy who volunteers to be a frisbee


Oh let it linger
darwin Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:39:03
I know a guy (a assistant professor or whatever you call them over there) in the UK who is on the UK national ultimate team. Or at least, that's what he tells me.
starmekitten Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:32:54
oh! OH! I know it! One of my lecturers at my undergrad university was one of you 'mericans, he told me in a club one night that he had represented his country at frisbee.

He got quite mocked for this, we said to him it should be an olympic sport like curling and pointed and laughed a bit. He went off in a terrible huff until he came back with more drinks we didn't ask for and danced badly to James - Laid.


meeting people is easy
floop Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:31:51
i'm fortunate to be able to run on the sand, which is great. but if i didn't live near the beach i'm sure i could find a park with some grass somewhere, which would be better than cement
darwin Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:30:24
Ultimate - might be called something else in the UK, it's kind of like your football but you're throwing a frisbee and you can't run with it, it involves a lot running try to get open and trying guard the other team

floop - I agree, running is the easiest, I go for quick 25 minute runs, I like cycling but that has to be for at least an hour.

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