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| darwin |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 11:34:21
It's been confirmed that the ivory billed woodpecker isn't extinct as has been thought for the past 60 years. There been a bunch of reports of people hearing them, but finally there reliable evidence that they're still out there. These are huge woodpeckers (the second biggest in the world). Very exciting.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N281435.htm
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=46532 |
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| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 15:23:21
my cheap ass university library subscribes neither to nature or to science, I have to use a relatives athens password to use half the fucking journals I need to
even those with the low ratings
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| kathryn |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 13:55:47
Maybe next time you can aim for the Isfake journal?
Something to shoot for.
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| darwin |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 12:51:35
No, the Israel Journal of Zoology is very good. I could only get my article into the Isreal one, but at least it's better than the "Isfake Journal of Zoology".
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| kathryn |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 12:44:33
Isreal not Israel? I need the correct name for
when I'm asking for my copy.
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| darwin |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 12:42:47
I just published in a journal that has an impact factor below 1. The prestiguous Isreal Journal of Zoology. Ask for it by name!
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| broken part |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 18:46:28
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Originally posted by starmekitten
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by broken part
This has been published in "Science" journal, not as good as "Nature" or "Cell" but still pretty big:
Science being based in the US and Nature in the UK.
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so Science isn't as good as nature then :P
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Nature impact factor = 30.979
Science impact factor = 29.781
Cell impact factor = 26.626
My bad, it is Cell that lags of the 3 big ones. But they are all put to shame by Annual Review of Biochemistry (37.647) |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 09:28:06
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by broken part
This has been published in "Science" journal, not as good as "Nature" or "Cell" but still pretty big:
Science being based in the US and Nature in the UK.
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so Science isn't as good as nature then :P
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| darwin |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 09:21:29
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Originally posted by broken part
This has been published in "Science" journal, not as good as "Nature" or "Cell" but still pretty big:
Science and Nature are pretty much equals with Science being based in the US and Nature in the UK. For scientists they are the best (most prestigous) places to publish.
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| vilainde |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 06:08:07
I wonder what it tastes like.
Denis
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| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 06:04:56
Apparantly it was in the secret forum all the time.
I joined the secret forum, and all I got was this lousy secret
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 02:14:05
what if it turns out that ivory-billed woodpecker is just really, really old? |
| VoVat |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 23:32:53
I've heard that ivory-billed woodpeckers are the natural enemies of the legendary and elusive sasquatch.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| The King Of Karaoke |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 22:24:37
You guys will believe anything.
 No one can defeat the Quad Laser.
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| VoVat |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 19:10:54
Extinction is for the birds!
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 17:44:05
Wow!! This is great news!
I saw a really depressing documentry about why our sea and land ecosystems are messed up because humans have gotten rid of the tier one predators and is causing extinction of so many things. (Honestly i think a lot of it to has to do with global warming and pollution, too)
So this is a ray of hope! |
| broken part |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 17:21:58
do you practice your sling? |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 17:16:34
Birds are cool though.
I love my backyard. The people the lived here before us and our neighbours are quite old so they're all bird feedered and bird housed out. In the morning its like camping. You can hear them all chirping and I especially lurve the chickadees. Its zen and nice.
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| broken part |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 16:35:39
all the scientific "stuff" in the article (including a map of the area) is found in this pdf document:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/data/1114103/DC1/1 |
| broken part |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 16:32:38
you can see a slow motion video shot of the bird here:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol0/issue2005/images/data/1114103/DC1/1114103S1.mov
(i used quicktime on Mac) |
| broken part |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 16:29:42
This has been published in "Science" journal, not as good as "Nature" or "Cell" but still pretty big:
A woodpecker believed extinct for 60 years has turned up in Arkansas. The ivory-billed woodpecker, one of the world's largest, once lived throughout the southeastern United States. But extensive clear-cutting destroyed its habitat, and by the mid-20th-century, the red-crested bird was thought to have vanished. Now, a team of ornithologists today reports evidence online in Science of at least one living in a wildlife refuge in east-central Arkansas. "It's very convincing," comments Jeffrey Walters, an ornithologist at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. "It's almost impossible that it could be anything else."
It's alive! The ivory-billed woodpecker, once thought to be extinct, has been spotted in Arkansas.
CREDIT: John A. Ruthven
That certainty is welcome news, given a long record of disappointment over the years. "It's been like Elvis," says Frank Gill, chief scientist of the National Audubon Society. "Every year there are reports of sightings, but no one ever gets a picture."
But in February 2004, a promising report of an ivory-billed sighting prompted Tim Gallagher of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology and avid birder Bobby Harrison of Oakwood College in Huntsville, Alabama, to visit the Cache River National Wildlife Refuge in Arkansas. A large woodpecker spread its wings directly in front of their canoe, revealing a broad white patch that's characteristic of the ivory-bill. "Bobby sat down on a log, put his face in his hands, and began to sob, saying, 'I saw an ivory-bill. I saw an ivory-bill,'" Gallagher recalled. In a statement, he confessed he had been too choked with emotion to speak.
The lab then spent 2 months following up the sighting, including having 30 people comb through 15 square kilometers of forest. Later that year, after the leaves had fallen, 20 scientists and volunteers spent 4750 hours searching the surrounding 145 square kilometers of forest. The upshot: One grainy video of an ivory-bill, five more convincing sightings, and recordings of the characteristic "double-knock" sound made by the birds. One trained observer heard the sound coming from two directions, suggesting that two birds were communicating.
At the moment, however, the team members are only sure that they've seen at least one male. The fact that the extensive surveys uncovered only a handful of sightings suggests that the birds are still very rare. But with only 4.5% of the potential habitat thoroughly searched, team-leader John Fitzpatrick of Cornell says there's "considerable optimism" that other individuals survive.
Bird-lovers are rejoicing. "It's the most exciting bird report perhaps in the century," says Gill. Today the U.S. Department of Interior announced it would establish a temporary 5000-acre reserve to restrict access, draft a recovery plan for the woodpecker, and spend $5 million on various conservation efforts. The U.S. Department of Agriculture plans to chip in with $5.2 million to create and enhance woodpecker habitat in the area. In addition, the Nature Conservancy has purchased or conserved 18,000 acres of habitat since the search began. |
| Little Black Francis |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 16:29:05
Extinct woodpecker... I thought this was going to be about Floop's pants
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 15:47:03
the character in marabou stork nightmares is an amateur ornithologist. |
| BLT |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 15:22:15
I was nearly trampled by a herd of bugs.
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| Carl |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 15:04:11
Or who likes bugs and hirds.
 I was in Twelve Angry Men, too!" |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 14:53:31
You should start Who likes birds and hugs thread.
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| PixieSteve |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 14:48:27
i think it's really cool some people like birds.
 Oh let it linger |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 14:46:16
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apl4eris - Audubon painted a picture of them
Figures. He kinda monopolized the whole bird painting market, the big dork. ;)
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| Carl |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:45:57
 "I just need more time!" |
| BLT |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:36:40
As a bird lover and casual watcher, I find this extremely cool.
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:24:42
check out the size of this guy's pecker.
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:22:32
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"It is kind of like finding Elvis."
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| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:20:47
Lord, God what a woodpecker!
wipe it on your dress and send it to me. |
| darwin |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 12:14:07
apl4eris - Audubon painted a picture of them
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| Monsieur |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 11:45:58
I like <whistle> birds.
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| apl4eris |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 11:44:10
I was so damned excited when I heard about this on the radio this morning! Almost called my bird-watcher dad to wake him up and tell him the news. Made me get all misty-eyed.
I think I will be doing a painting of one to commemorate this discovery.
Yeah, I'm a dork. So what?
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