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starmekitten Posted - 04/07/2005 : 10:47:56
It's interesting, I think.

I'm having to write a research proposal at the moment on cannaboid receptors and chondrocytes and with all of these assignments there's a ton of background reading involved. There's not a lot of specific work done in this particular area (else why write a research proposal eh?) but the one paper on it suggests that cannabis can help alleviate inflammation and chronic pain so could have a valid role, specifically in this case, arthritis treatment.

There's better known examples of disease where people have felt benefits of cannabis use (MS, IBS, cancer) and believe in this to the extent that they have risked trouble with the law.

So whilst recreational cannabis is generally frowned on would medicinal use be ok? Or should it be ok all round? Or is it a case of...



:P





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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:24:00
That made the top ten of 50 greatest comedy sketch moments didn't it?


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
PixieSteve Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:11:47
so you have bad AIDS, not good AIDS?


Oh let it linger
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:08:41
And pure fucking genius. Much like the Pixies. Has Frank ever heard Motherbanger I wonder?


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
Carl Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:49:56
The mother of another victim of Cake-a metabolically 'bisturbile' drug.

Sorry, it's just Brass Eye stuff(Chris Morris-who did that Pixies skit!)
kathryn Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:32:57
whose mother?


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:22:54
"Imagine how her mother felt"


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
Carl Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:07:18
Well it's a 'MADE UP' drug. It's mad e from chemicals etc. by....sick bastads.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:05:20
Not as nasty as Cake. Now THAT'S a nasty drug!


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
kathryn Posted - 04/10/2005 : 11:57:41
Wow. I feel unhip and old not knowing what
ketamine was. Then again, it sounds like
a scary nasty drug, again proving my point
that a little pot isn't such a bad thing.



I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
Carl Posted - 04/10/2005 : 10:38:15
"It's a fucking disgrace!"
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 10:05:05
"Hattie Jacque's pretentious cheese wog / Joss Ackland's spunky backpack"


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
Carl Posted - 04/10/2005 : 09:31:53
"Where's your nose? It's in a jar, mate!"
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/10/2005 : 09:29:45
Take u out of drugs, what have you got? Drgs!

Drgs never killed anyone.


Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
frank black conspiracy Posted - 04/09/2005 : 07:12:23
ket was pretty big in the dance scene a few years back. a good dose will have you in your home pulling your teeth out with pliers feeling no pain. true story. stupid girl. we call her gummy. she's so pretty until she smiles. wound!

reminds me of another story i've witnessed. a friends birthday party, bouncy castle on the front lawn. one fool proceeds a girl running down the stairs straight out the front door. one bounce on the mini trampoline and then an attempted somersault onto the castle resulting in both heels crashing down into the poor girls face. ouchy!
i was on the stairs waiting my turn when she came rushing up, cracked me a smile holding her two front teeth in her hand. i felt pretty bad but laughed so hard.

bloody alcohol. now if we were all smoking my green we'd be sliding down those stairs on our bums and trays.
Surfer Rosa Posted - 04/09/2005 : 01:59:31
Ketamine is an incredibly strong tranquiliser - often used by vets on horses and if I remember correctly for operating under difficult circumstances like bush warfare. A good friend of mine (and a doctor at that) melted his trainers while sat by a bonfire thanks to a miscalculated dose (fire kept getting bigger, but he was too toasted to move!) - everyone only realised what was happening when we smelled burning plastic.



The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
Carl Posted - 04/08/2005 : 18:18:47
I don't know what ketamine consists of, I think it's an amphetamine of some sort. I just wanna say that heroin should be legalised for depression.

Ummm, just kidding!

(Edited for mistakes)
kathryn Posted - 04/08/2005 : 17:42:04
what's ketamine? Have I ingested it
and forgotten? Remind me, please.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
frank black conspiracy Posted - 04/08/2005 : 16:32:44
I strongly believe in the calming influenece of t.h.c. Give me a spliff over a beer anyday.
But ketamine... hide the pliers. I've heard some horror stories
Daisy Girl Posted - 04/08/2005 : 16:04:10
Definately in favor of cannibis for medicinal use. Minnesota has been discussing it. If you ask me I bet it might have a decent chance of passing.
mosleyk Posted - 04/08/2005 : 13:22:23
So is Meth!
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/08/2005 : 13:06:24
Everyone's smoking crack here now. Now THAT'S one drug to stay away from.

.......which was nice.
kathryn Posted - 04/08/2005 : 11:12:25
The nasty newer drugs, like Oxy, make pot seem so
sweet and innocent.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
ispini tapaidh Posted - 04/08/2005 : 07:03:46
The driving while high thing is interesting. I know a few people who regularly drive after a toke or three, and find that they generally drive a bit slower and more carefully than when sober.
And I have a couple of friends who are convinced that they need a spliff before bedtime, which is probably just because they've conditioned themselves to think that way as it's become such a habit. Personally I think smoking anything late (illegal or not) just keeps you awake longer.
I agree that it should be legalised too. Might get a decent bit of greenery for a change. And all those other proper reasons.
Carl Posted - 04/08/2005 : 05:41:49
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/4423603.stm

That's one granny a lot of grandchildren would visit a lot!
starmekitten Posted - 04/08/2005 : 02:48:08
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4423125.stm

Drug-dealing gran to be sentenced

Patricia Tabram baked biscuits and soups with cannabis
A 66-year-old Northumberland gran is to be sentenced for drug dealing.
Patricia Tabram, 66, earlier pleaded guilty to possessing cannabis with intent to supply from her home in East Lea, Humshaugh, near Hexham.

The former chef, who will appear at Newcastle Crown Court, baked cookies, soups and casseroles laced with the illegal herb for herself and friends.

She said the drug helped combat intense pain in her neck and back, as well as other complaints such as tinnitus.

Tabram was arrested after police seized 31 cannabis plants growing in her loft and another one from her hallway table.

Drug dealing

Northumbria Police were tipped off about the savoury smells and activities coming from Mrs Tabram's bungalow and twice raided her house last May and June.

Tabram said: "I had a walking stick, I was in constant pain. Now, through ingesting cannabis in my food five times a day, five times a week - minute amounts - I feel great."

She is writing a book about her experiences called Grandma Eats Cannabis, which she hopes to be in print soon.

Tabram said she had been travelling to the Byker district of Newcastle regularly to buy cannabis.

When her friends said they also wanted some of the Class C drug she met a dealer in Hexham and a day after taking delivery of the cannabis police raided her home.


I joined the cult of Derek/ because Dereks don't run
VoVat Posted - 04/07/2005 : 17:27:54
I'm definitely in favor of marijuana for medicinal use.

I'm pretty much in favor of legalization of pot for recreational use. I still wouldn't smoke it, but I don't smoke regular cigarettes either. I'm still a bit undecided on this one, though.

For harder drugs, I guess I'm more for decriminalization, which is to say that I don't think you should be able to buy cocaine at the 7-11, but you shouldn't be thrown in jail for using it, either.

On a personal level, I don't use drugs, and the idea that other people do sometimes makes me uncomfortable. Call it a result of my sheltered upbringing. I don't know. Nonetheless, I think a lot of the drug laws governments try to institute are stupid, and a waste of resources. That whole "drug war" thing was just one big joke, and an expensive joke at that.



"Reunion? Shit union!"
kathryn Posted - 04/07/2005 : 15:31:28
Rememer KSR's words of wisdom:

"Moderation is a myth."

Story of my life.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
chickenwithtwoheads Posted - 04/07/2005 : 15:11:12
In my lovely country the government pays the cannabis bills for you if you use it to help alleviate inflammation and chronic pain...

People who are healthy have to pay for it though...


I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the Pixies
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/07/2005 : 14:51:58
There is no doubt that many people get fucked up on it if they use it too much, but like mun chien says, that's the same with all drugs. Everything in moderation.

Now where did I put my belt and spoon?

.......which was nice.
mun chien andalusia Posted - 04/07/2005 : 14:24:46
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten



but what about those people who make a habit of it, I know cannabis isn't supposed to be addictive but it is habit forming, there is a guy I know who used to come stay with me a lot and a couple of times after a night of drinking we'd stumble into my flat and after a few minutes he'd be out the door to go buy some pot because he said "I can not get to sleep without it"

I know an equal number who are fine with the recreational smoke, but do you think cannabis as a daily habit results in general lack of motivation in the same way alcohilism works? or should this not matter and the actions of those who are weak of will not spoil the fun for everyone else?....


[i]I joined the cult of Derek/ because Dereks don't run




this is absolutely true. people who use it in a daily basis act exactly as your friend and i have more than one examples myself. as always the truth is in the middle. cannabis isn't as innocent as many pro-cannabis groups claim (specially when they say stupid things like you can drive safely when you are high) but on the other hand no substance is innocent if abused.


i bash newbies for a living
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/07/2005 : 14:18:42
"Nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol.
CCCCC-Cocaine."

Sing it!


Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
Surfer Rosa Posted - 04/07/2005 : 14:16:30
*offers Kathryn a toke*

I might not be Frank, but you know it'll make you feel better.



The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
kathryn Posted - 04/07/2005 : 13:05:39
Sigh. It's OK, OldMan. I'm OK. Just gotta run out to the store to get
more tissues. I'll be OK.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
OldManInaCoffeeCan Posted - 04/07/2005 : 12:48:17
Sorry Kathryn, and, if you don't want to shed anymore tears, then please don't read my posts in "What's on your mind" and "Rich Gilbert News"...I will be thinking of you tonight, however!
whoreatthedoor Posted - 04/07/2005 : 12:48:16
Cannabis??? What is it???


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