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TRANSMARINE Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:37:55
I have a doctor appointment today and I'm horrified. I haven't been to the doctor is 2 years because I have such an overwhelming fear of them. All I have is a bad cold, but I figured I should have it checked. I don't fear needles. I don't get it. It's totally rediculous...but I'm sweating, shaking, heart pounding, head dizzy...anyone relate? Or, even better, any advice?

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
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Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 03/09/2005 : 04:37:14
I was pretty confident that I wouldn't get a hard-on with the male doctor. I mean, he wasn't even cute.

Seriously though, I would be pretty embarrassed if I got one with a female doctor, and I think you would too if the situation, ahem, arose.
Elephant Posted - 03/08/2005 : 22:09:19
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

If it's a female doc though, what if you get a hard on? Most embarressing. I assume that wouldn't happen to you if it was a male doctor. The only time I have ever had a doctor check my nads was when I thought I may have had a lump, and the doctor was male. I was fine with this, in fact I think I prefered it 'cos I knew there was no chance of any 'movement'. I am sure they have all felt a million bollocks, cocks & growlers!



Yes, the hardon is my biggest fear. With a female doctor I wouldn't really care. So what if some cute doctor sees my kibbles and bits standing in attention. I don't care, I'm not ashamed of anything "down there". What happens if I get a hardon with a male doctor, what happens if the wind catches my nads just right and it gets tingly down there.

The more I think about it - the more I would know I would probably get hardon if I did have a female doctor. Hey, it's not like I'm cool like the fonz or anything.

Anyways, I went to the doctor today for a full physical. All he did was look in my ears, ask me to open my mouth, and tested my heart rate. He didn't even give me a blood test or anything like that, didn't even have to take my pants off.

I was a happy man.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 03/08/2005 : 13:54:35
He's asking his dad.
starmekitten Posted - 03/08/2005 : 13:07:03
Alberts molecular biology of the cell
immunobiology (fifth edition)
medical microbiology
eurekah bioscience collection

textbooks and online journals. you know, that i use for the biomedical postgrad.

where you getting yours?


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation
PixieSteve Posted - 03/08/2005 : 13:02:55
i did mention it.

btw raised CRP levels isn't always a sign of bacterial infections, where are you getting your bullshit?


I joined the Cult of Pi / Because it's cool
starmekitten Posted - 03/08/2005 : 09:47:01
nope

you mentioned elevated levels of c-reactive protein and you see c reactive protein is generally a scavenger protein going after the fragments of degraded bacteria that have been left over from macrophage activity which means your getting over it now. it was also meant to help reassure that you're not dying.


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation
PixieSteve Posted - 03/08/2005 : 09:38:53
starmekitten did you ignore when i said they kenw i had a bacterial infection (reason why i am taking antibiotics). it's just they don't know what type or where.


I joined the Cult of Pi / Because it's cool
TRANSMARINE Posted - 03/08/2005 : 08:30:32
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

[quote]Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Ok. I just got back from the doctor.

Now I am freaking out.

My symptoms have no source...in other words, there's no reason why I am feeling so sick. I underwent a battery of blood tests to check my liver functions, because the doctor is fearing I may have some liver trouble. Great. And I had X-Rays taken of it and my lungs and other internals. "We'll call you in a couple days...sooner if there is something very wrong." Thanks, doc.

I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN



liver problems? yikes. i thought you said you had a cold? what are your symptoms?


Exactly. Thats why I feared going in the first place.



Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 03/08/2005 : 05:05:54
If it's a female doc though, what if you get a hard on? Most embarressing. I assume that wouldn't happen to you if it was a male doctor. The only time I have ever had a doctor check my nads was when I thought I may have had a lump, and the doctor was male. I was fine with this, in fact I think I prefered it 'cos I knew there was no chance of any 'movement'. I am sure they have all felt a million bollocks, cocks & growlers!
starmekitten Posted - 03/08/2005 : 03:31:58
yeah, I got violated by a cute doctor once, he used vaseline, it was all good


kathryn Posted - 03/07/2005 : 19:30:23
Being a 15-yr-old male, you may have trouble
accepting this from a female more than twice
your age (that would be me) but one gets used
to medical hands going in places where the sun
don't shine. I don't want cancer anywhere so I don't
care where nurses or doctors poke around.

Relax. Your check-up will be fine. And I can understand
your preferring a female doc to a male doc. That said,
I would never in a million years want a female gyno.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
Elephant Posted - 03/07/2005 : 19:22:30
I'm 15, so I won't have a prostate exam. Ha ha ha, but like... I never want one. I would rather get cancer inside of my ass or whatever it is that goes on inside of there, then have a doctor's hand inside.
kathryn Posted - 03/07/2005 : 19:20:35
Elephant, depending on your age, you may be asked
to cough. Ever had a prostate exam? I hear those
are fun.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
Elephant Posted - 03/07/2005 : 19:17:59
Speaking of doctors, I have a regular check-up tomorrow. Hopefully in a regular check up he doesn't go in my pants or something, or stick his hand up my ass.

I would be way more comftorable with a female doctor then a male doctor, I don't know why though. I'm not a homophobe or something and it's not like I have a thing against doctors. But I kind of think it's akward to have a doctor INVESTIGATE "DOWN-THERE", even though that is what doctors are suposta' do, and they are professional and everything.

Hopefully they don't do that kind of stuff in routine check-ups though.
kathryn Posted - 03/07/2005 : 17:59:16
This thread, with its talk of rampant bacteria, is scaring
the bejezus out of me.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
dayanara Posted - 03/07/2005 : 17:20:24
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

Ok. I just got back from the doctor.

Now I am freaking out.

My symptoms have no source...in other words, there's no reason why I am feeling so sick. I underwent a battery of blood tests to check my liver functions, because the doctor is fearing I may have some liver trouble. Great. And I had X-Rays taken of it and my lungs and other internals. "We'll call you in a couple days...sooner if there is something very wrong." Thanks, doc.

I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN



liver problems? yikes. i thought you said you had a cold? what are your symptoms?


A monkey will eat dirt if you make him.
kathryn Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:48:14
Dayanara, can you explain mrsa some more? what is it?
why do you say that you have it?

Tre, you are way too smart for me.

Transmarine, the bad news is you are going to live. You will
be fine. Sometimes we feel crappy and then we feel
better.

darwin, you are very right about babies breast feeding = less kids getting antibiotics. One of my big points of pride as
a parent is that my kid has never taken antibiotics, never needed
them.



I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
shineoftheever Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:43:35
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

...I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy....


if it spreads and you end up like this, you could probably sue the doctors...




You can go eat a decroded piece of crap!
Cheeseman1000 Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:20:47
Depends on what movies you watch. It sounds more like Twelve Monkeys than Outbreak to me, although I'm sure there will be a monkey reasoning somewhere along the line.


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Ash: "Groovy"
TRANSMARINE Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:00:04
Ok. I just got back from the doctor.

Now I am freaking out.

My symptoms have no source...in other words, there's no reason why I am feeling so sick. I underwent a battery of blood tests to check my liver functions, because the doctor is fearing I may have some liver trouble. Great. And I had X-Rays taken of it and my lungs and other internals. "We'll call you in a couple days...sooner if there is something very wrong." Thanks, doc.

I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy.

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:48:48
Drug resistance usually has some cost to the bacteria (slower replication, something). So, if you get rid of the drugs then the strains of bacteria that have drug resistance should do worse than the strains that don't. The hope is that the drug resistant ones will be driven out by non-drug resistant ones if the particular antibiotic is removed for long enough.

I don't know if this has been tested, but I would be shocked if it hasn't. Too easy to not try it out in the lab.
starmekitten Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:43:36
but reverse selection?
i don't buy it.

i think it's sadly too little too late
but what do i know eh? i don't run gsk!




darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:40:04
I think (I'm way out of my area) that with a HIV patient they rotate the drugs. But, there has been talk of doing it more globally. Choose an antibiotic and say that it won't be used by anyone for say the next 10 years. Then bring it back and rest a different antibiotic.
Carl Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:39:22
I'm asthmatic and have always been prone to bad chest infection. I've found penicillin and the like have been helpful for this, but I agree that its not healthy to take medication for every little thing.
starmekitten Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:35:52
thats what they do with HIV patients Darwin I believe.

Antibiotics is Bacteria, which either affect the proteoglycan bacterial coat, weakening the matrix interaction or various stages in protein synthesis. Many bacteria have developed immunity and reistance genes commonly by either producing an enyme that destroys the drug, altering the molecular target of the drug or by stopping it getting to it's target full stop,this happens for not only to one but several antibiotics per bacteria, hence super bugs, whils there are 100's of antibiotics on the market they are becoming more and more obsolete as immunity grows. The trouble with bacterial replication and DNA transferance is that it's so bloody quick.

Viruses is trickier and the drug design problematic, I think. There are antiviral agents, such as the drugs used for HIV, from the little I remember though it's all very hit and miss, antibiotics are usually prescribed for the symptoms (swolleness etc) rather than the cure...

i think...


darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:29:57
Oh, and antibiotics don't kill viruses, so they aren't any good for the flu. They kill bacteria.
darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:24:29
No doubt. There's no point in antibiotics if we never take them, but as daynara described they are often used when not necessary or not properly used.

There's also things that the medical profession/durg companies could be doing like rotating which antibiotics are being prescribed for periods of time to reverse selection for drug resistant strains.
Carl Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:17:14
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

if you have the flu, you don't need antibiotics. THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL WORSE. just wanted to clear that up.

darwin, the one good thing about TB in this country is that we will actually throw you in jail if you don't take your meds for the full 9 months. i've seen it enforced, too. pretty cool.


Fair point, I guess there are a lot of strains of virus that build up a tolerance and eventually feed off drugs. But if you never take antibiotics, it might be worth it if your feeling really sick.
dayanara Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:16:16
i haven't been following it closely, just enough to be disturbed. mrsa still scares me worse, especially since i know my body is totally colonized and there's nothing i can do about it.


A monkey will eat dirt if you make him.
darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:58:38
Go kitty go!

Daynara, have you followed the Russian prison story? I've heard they have rampant TB but not enough drugs. So, the prisoners get a fraction of the doses that they need. Perfect for building resistant strains.
starmekitten Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:55:01
pixiesteve: c-reactive protein is a phase protein made by liver cells because of stimulation by cytokines produced by macrophage cells responding to bacterial infection, it binds to the surface of bacteria and activates various pathways to help facilitate their removal. You have a bacterial infection.


dayanara Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:53:26
if you have the flu, you don't need antibiotics. THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL WORSE. just wanted to clear that up.

darwin, the one good thing about TB in this country is that we will actually throw you in jail if you don't take your meds for the full 9 months. i've seen it enforced, too. pretty cool.


A monkey will eat dirt if you make him.
Carl Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:50:20
There's no reason to be afraid, unless he whips out a drill or something. I f you have flu, he'll probably give antibiotics. Or an enema(just kidding!)
darwin Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:42:50
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

nowadays people feel sick, they've got a flu bug or a cold, whatever, so they go to the doctor. now since they've had to spend their hard earned money, miss work, and spend god knows how long waiting around to be seen, they want something in return. bingo, here come the antibiotics. superbugs are popping up left and right - mrsa, vrsa, pseuduamonis. you don't want to fuck around with those guys, and they're here because we dole out antibiotics too freely, and since frequently they're not actually needed, people don't take them as ordered. say grandma sneezes twice and demands pills. she feels better in 3 days because it was only a cold, so she stops taking her antibiotics. now the mrsa colony that was chilling out in her ear and not bothering anyone is quietly developing resistance. three years from now when grandma has to go get her hip operated on (or a hangnail), that super strong mrsa is ready to get to work, and there's nothing you can do about it. happens all the damn time, and it's really, really scary.


Amen! It's going to be fun when the drug resistant TB from Russian prisons starts spreading.

More kids breast feeding = less kids getting antibiotics for ear infections would be a good start.
PixieSteve Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:11:44
good luck transmarine.

dayanara, i had a fever and was shaking uncontrollably, with pains in my joins (especially lower back and hip area). during the first week it was controllable by simply taking paracetemol or ibuprofen. it was weird, from one extreme to feeling almost fine. then i had a week or so of being worse, now i'm not feeling too bad. the part of the blood test which indicated the inflammation was something to do with c-reactive protein. normal levels are next to nothing (0-5(mg?)) mine was 115 :/ it's weird because for the most part there has been no signs of anything which might help identify the infection - no vomitting, no diarrhea, no cough (bit of a cough now though), etc. etc. just feeling unwell. don't think i stubbed my toe :'(

my dad's a pharmacist so i like to think i'm not a total idiot.


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