| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 09:55:10
This is from Michael Moore-- I thought it was funny.
11/5/04
Dear Friends,
Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in
the words of Monty Python, 'always look on the bright side of life!' There
IS some good news from Tuesday's election.
Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:
1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.
2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since
Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults
(Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always
wrong and you should never listen to them.
4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the
country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)
5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the
Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the
Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do
their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.
6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of
our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West
Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water,
all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in
lava. And no more show tunes!
7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any
old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut.
May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.
8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will
no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If
you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly
golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.
9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married
in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't
have to buy now.
10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress,
including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to
have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates
can't.
11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!
12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.
13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3
chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state
legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the
2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53
chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47
chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber
(Montana House) is still undecided.
14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than
the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out --
and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work
that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th
grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the
next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the
ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his
point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.
15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very
dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two
scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the
Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear
that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that
history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for
too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and
arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such
major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from
office.
16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting
age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it
means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards
to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of
those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go
home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three
yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are
coming!!!
17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the
candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total
number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore.
Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for
a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time
since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has
always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is
that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact,
that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones
who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November
2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of
surprise in 2008.
Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My
Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a
wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"
But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
http://www.michaelmoore.com/
http://www.campervanbeethoven.com/gearstolen/ |
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| astrology |
Posted - 11/10/2004 : 21:27:50
michi moores manager is MEGAS the top mossad agent, brother.. and a mole in clinton administration and the unzipper of zippergate, nothin to do with compressed files but with unrollin snakes or turbulent tubular bells.. and not the liberty one but more libertine and libido bound..
the 18th and definitive reason to not slit your wrists is than slitinn your yugular is far more quicker and avoid last minutemen savin u and avoid u havin the stupid look on the face of those frustrated suicide attempterrs than everyone thinks he/she /it was only trying to draw atttention
I'm a pistolero, i'm not shakin in my boots
I'm the ruler of this moon, if u move I shoots
Truth is out There, but Mulder cannot find G-Gal's G-point.
erection is no poltergeist, even if its Majestic |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 22:37:55
Sir Mike,
I do hear what you are saying, but definately, I think the labels "liberal," "moderate" or conservative definately are relative.
Voting in a Republican state in 2000, 1996 and 1992 it was considered a very liberal thing to do to vote for Nader but also Clinton or Gore.
But now that I voted in 2004 in a more liberal state, voting Kerry was "moderate."
So I think that everything is relative and things that I think are way past there time and pretty main stream for where I live such as equal pay for equal work, gay marrage, environmental reform, are seen as liberal or extreme in other parts of my state and our country...so what I am trying to say... it might be really hard to define "moderate" to voters.
http://www.campervanbeethoven.com/gearstolen/ |
| Sir Mike |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 20:30:56
Not a Michael Moore fan, what he calls a 'documentary' is pure propaganda and very selective fact pulling without a second eye in the head for a true depth. Not too fond of Bush either, too conservative (hell Kerry was too liberal, I can't be the last political moderate in America, I swear!). Maybe Giuliani or McCain will run next time, I would like to see that more moderate swing away from Bush toward the middle. There's a guy named Reid for the Dems from Nevada who looks pretty good too as a moderate. I liked Gephardt and Lieberman in the Dem primaries cause they seemed to have a nice, broad, moderate appeal. I don't buy into this party ideology stuff about social programs (the left) or Christian Coaltion (right). I like to see a nice secular government not overstepping its bounds into the social arena that has enough guts to follow more of an old New Deal style path. Protect labor, kill out sourcing and NAFTA. But don't go berzerk with all kinds of hollow studies and such. Long live the middle of the political spectrum, where people don't fight over who had what for dinner on a monday night in Vietnam.
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Do you ever really know who you are? |
| VoVat |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 18:31:31
quote:
I just don't see the point about arguing press bias and propaganda, it's there it's fact and it works both ways.
I have to say I agree with this whole-heartedly.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 17:40:02
Knowing nothing of Ralph Reed, I'll only ask this.
Why would you want to mix church and state? There is an answer, if you look for it.
 "Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)" |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 17:13:33
I challenge you to find any photo of Ralph Reed in which he doesn't look evil. And, even if doesn't look evil, his agenda remains evil.
Also, I'm sure we could find plenty of covers of liberals that aren't flattering. |
| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 16:49:19
All major media is biased and all is propaganda, people aren't fact machines and because it's people that write the press it's impossible to keep view point and personal stance out of it, no matter how hard someone may (but often don't) try.
I'm sure you could if you wanted to find another media source with the flip side of this displayed equaly unabashedly but that would make the christian and republican victimisation whine a little less valid would it not.
I just don't see the point about arguing press bias and propaganda, it's there it's fact and it works both ways.
Frank Black ate my hamster |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 16:40:08
quote:
Originally posted by Tre
Obviously it's facism when it's not the same point as your own, so [insert nazi metaphor here]
It not about any point. It's about distortion of an image, distortion that reminds ONLY of 1930s Germany. It's about a major "news" magazine publishing an unabashedly biased cover. Opinion has nothing to do with it: the cover is factually propagandistic. Isn't it? |
| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 16:23:30
Obviously it's facism when it's not the same point as your own, so [insert nazi metaphor here]
Frank Black ate my hamster |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 16:18:34
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson
Its a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.
Sounds like something Goebbels might have said to his Fuhrer, having created a poster much like that magazine cover, except depicting a Jew. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 15:27:07
Its a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.
This war, it will be just like the War on Drugs. It will be potent and effective and our objectives will be clear. The nation had a nasty drug problem and we declared a war on drugs and spent billions over many years and now you can't buy drugs anymore. It will be just like that.
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| Erebus |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 15:20:04
Even after looking at how they cast that magazine cover, I suppose you folks will still maintain the mainstream media isn't biased against Republicans and Christians. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 15:19:57
You know you want to.
This war, it will be just like the War on Drugs. It will be potent and effective and our objectives will be clear. The nation had a nasty drug problem and we declared a war on drugs and spent billions over many years and now you can't buy drugs anymore. It will be just like that.
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| BLT |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 15:03:25
Put a black square under his nose and he looks familiar. |
| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 14:52:32
argh cover the eyes dude
Frank Black ate my hamster |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 14:49:30
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| n/a |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 14:19:07
hoo hooo you guys are all cosmically linked or something, dead forum.... suddenly lightening quick responses, I dig it guys I really do
Frank Black ate my hamster |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 14:16:57
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
Without Michael Moore, MoveOn, George Soros, Al Franken, .... you guys may have actually won the election.
If that isn't obvious you might as well not run a candidate in 2008.
Without Ralph Reed you would have lost the election. |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 14:13:10
Without Michael Moore, MoveOn, George Soros, Al Franken, .... you guys may have actually won the election.
If that isn't obvious you might as well not run a candidate in 2008. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 13:59:53
quote:
Originally posted by harringk
# 18: after Bush's win this week, harringK will crawl back under the rock he came from and we won't have to hear his bullshit anymore (wishfull thinking I know).
This war, it will be just like the War on Drugs. It will be potent and effective and our objectives will be clear. The nation had a nasty drug problem and we declared a war on drugs and spent billions over many years and now you can't buy drugs anymore. It will be just like that.
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| harringk |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 13:44:59
# 18: after Kerry's defeat this week, Michael Moore will crawl back under the rock he came from and we won't have to hear his bullshit anymore (wishfull thinking I know). |
| cvanepps |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 13:07:01
Thanks Daisy. I needed that.
-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
http://www.cvanepps.com |
| El Barto |
Posted - 11/05/2004 : 13:06:44
Very well written. What a swell guy.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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