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| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 06:37:43
I haven't gone to vote yet today, but i was curious as to see how people's voting experiences have been - did they check ID? was there a long wait? any interesting differences between this time and the last time you've voted? Keep us posted throughout the day Americans...
And PLEASE PLEASE VOTE
-brian
 - "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 22:38:21
i haven't seen david in about 5 years, but i'm pretty sure that he now lives most of the time in spain. he may still own property in cresskill and/or tel aviv. i've actually recently moved out of cresskill, but didn't switch my voting over in time, so i crashed w/ the parents tonight and voted here.
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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| slaveish |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 21:02:43
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
quote:
Originally posted by slaveish
Brian, do you know David Broza?
i do indeed i went to high school with his son ramon. how do you know david?
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
I met David through a mutual friend when I lived in L.A. He came out for a performance and came over Kate's house while I was there. He invited me to the performance and got me a front-row seat. He's such a nice guy. He did an in-studio performance on the local radio station, and I remembered him mentioning that he lives in Creskill part time, when he's not in Tel Aviv. I haven't kept up with him- my friendship with Kate fell apart soon after meeting him, so there really wasn't the opportunity.
Erebus, you can't vote straight- party with one lever pull any more. I guess these machines must be all over the northeast- I remember using them years back. I used punch card in California. |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 20:52:50
quote:
Originally posted by ramona
At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.
Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.
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If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
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Not all people have utility bills in their names. Think old people. No car. No utilities that they pay for. |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 19:33:58
Minneapolis, MN
It took me about 1 hour and 45 minutes to vote. I voted at a school... and it was so cute watching the little kids get their breakfast.
I went w/my husband and although it was pretty boring, at least we were there together. It was pretty crowded. Things were cool except for the guy behind me, a vet kept accidently running me over with his walker and this guy who thought he was all that who cut in front of me about 1 hour and a half into the line and wouldn't back down and get at the end of the line. Although I got my licence in August, my registration hadn't gone through. So I had to fill out a form and show my id and a bill to get to vote...no biggie. Yeah, it was pretty annoying at times but it was cool seeing so many people who cared. I remember thinking how cool it was to see "democracy in action".
Downtown everyone was hyped about the election and wearing their "I voted" stickers and carrying mostly John Kerry stuff. Pretty much everyone today was like... "Did you vote yet," so it was cool to feel like this is type of paticipatory democracy that the framers intended.... vs. the other more apathetic election vibe I've experienced in the past.
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| Thomas |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 18:23:55
I just give the election aid my name and address, no ID is asked for. She looks me up in the registered voters book. She tells me to sign on the line next to my name. She matches my signature to the one in the book she had. I'm then given a number, this time I was #456, and then I just wait my turn to vote. No ID and no hastle. Maybe cause I'm so cute. 
quote:
Originally posted by ramona
At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.
Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.
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If you see me, look surprised
If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
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http://buymediamonds.blogspot.com
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard" |
| Thomas |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 18:12:37
I couldn't find a picture of the machines we use in New York, but this one is very close.
quote:
This is a photo from the Chicago Daily Sun circa 1905. It features a lever pull machine much like the Myers
Automated Booth.
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard" |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 16:39:16
quote:
Originally posted by slaveish
Brian, do you know David Broza?
i do indeed i went to high school with his son ramon. how do you know david?
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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| Johnny Yen |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 16:34:54
Montpelier, VT 10:50am, City Hall:
Told the 2 old ladies my name, and in exchange for the words got 2 paper ballots. Stood in my little booth, and colored in dots (the one thing Scantron tests prepared me for was voting in my town). I had to wait in line to deposit my ballots in the scanner machine for 2 minutes.
Then I went downstairs to the bake sale the other old ladies were having. I bought 1 piece of Lemon-Poppyseed bread, and 4 big Peanut Butter-Oatmeal cookies for the low price of $1. Best deal in town. I heard they were selling pizza around lunch time for a buck a slice. awesome. |
| ramona |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 16:04:19
At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.
Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.
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If you see me, look surprised
If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
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http://buymediamonds.blogspot.com |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 16:00:37
quote:
Originally posted by slaveish
Used the old-fashioned pull-lever machine. No lines. New York has a provision that allows candidates to be endorsed by more than one party, and thus be on the ballot more than once. so....George *&^*#$%$$ Bush was on the ballot twice. This pissed me off. He was apparently endorsed by the Conservative party.
I'm curious about these "lever" machines, never having used them. I understand that at one time one could vote a "straight ticket" with a single pull in the lever, thereby voting for all the Dems or Repubs or whatever. Is this still possible in some places? Or would one have to execute a pull or something for each candidate? Like one pull for gov, senator, rep, dog catcher, etc.? |
| martha_promise |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:50:15
I agree that if you're capable of getting to the correct polling place in your precinct it shouldn't be to too troubling to show your I.D.
Des Moines IA, around 2:00 this afternoon. It was as dead as a doorknob, in and out within 5 minutes,...nothing unusual to report besides the foul smell of cafeteria food.
~~Come inside, or...Go Away.~~ |
| harringk |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:36:37
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by harringk
How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?
"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"
"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."
"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."
Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure.
Not everyone has a photo ID or bills in their name.
Ok, but if you have the mental capacity to register to vote, you should be able to deal with getting a state issued ID card. |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:33:46
quote:
Originally posted by harringk
How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?
"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"
"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."
"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."
Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure.
Not everyone has a photo ID or bills in their name. I actually don't have a problem with checking IDs but also know there are historic reasons for not requiring IDs. I don't feel informed enough to have solid opinion on the matter. |
| harringk |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:32:13
How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?
"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"
"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."
"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."
Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure. |
| slaveish |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:29:33
Brian, do you know David Broza? |
| slaveish |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 15:28:44
I'm right now listening to an NPR story on this very topic. I must be missing something- what's wrong with (and what's not right with) asking for I.D.?
Astoria, NY, boys and girls club. Showed my voter registration card and was asked to sign a roll, underneath a copy of my signature they had on file. Used the old-fashioned pull-lever machine. No lines. New York has a provision that allows candidates to be endorsed by more than one party, and thus be on the ballot more than once. so....George *&^*#$%$$ Bush was on the ballot twice. This pissed me off. He was apparently endorsed by the Conservative party.
I've had anti-Bush and anti-war buttons on my messenger bag for a few months- but today was the first day I got comments on them. I went into Manhattan, with the BUllShit button on my bag, and a few people misstook it for a Bush button and questioned me on my support for Bush. Way to go Manhattan! |
| cvanepps |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 14:33:02
Apex, NC. Voted at 8:00 AM ET without incident. It took about 10 minutes.
-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
http://www.cvanepps.com |
| floop |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 14:31:05
Venice, CA
there was this really cute hispanic girl at the booth i was waiting for. kind of a tough time to start up some small talk. plus, she was with her mom.
but i did get a smile at least.
i would rate my voting experience as "pleasant"
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 14:25:02
bias?
edit: point being, regarding the narrow point of voter ID requirements as illegal, I think my explanation of why I find that depressing is bias-free. Process integrity would seem something everybody would want, regardless of political affiliation. |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:38:40
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Thanks apl4eris. My google search didn't find such a good link.
So, erebus, why was it SUCH a depressing question?
Because in today's America it is a sensible question, which demonstrates what a nonsensical nation we have become. We claim to respect the voting process and yet would actually ban a simple, nondiscriminatory step that would go a long way toward legitimizing that process. We are so hellbent upon including votes while banning steps that would protect the validity of votes legitimately cast. Allowing illegitimate votes disentranchises legitimate votes by cancelling them out.
Yeah, we're so hellbent on it we have provisional votes that don't even get counted unless the margin is smaller than the number of those votes.
And we subjugate the popular vote with an ancient outdated system of Electoral College votes.
We HATE not counting every vote, obviously.
edit: My point is that you seem really hellbent on being pissed off about something in a very biased/myopic manner. See it my way, and be pissed off in a much broader all-encompassing way!  |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:33:26
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Thanks apl4eris. My google search didn't find such a good link.
So, erebus, why was it SUCH a depressing question?
Because in today's America it is a sensible question, which demonstrates what a nonsensical nation we have become. We claim to respect the voting process and yet would actually ban a simple, nondiscriminatory step that would go a long way toward legitimizing that process. We are so hellbent upon including votes while banning steps that would protect the validity of votes legitimately cast. Allowing illegitimate votes disentranchises legitimate votes by cancelling them out. |
| KimStanleyRobinson |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:12:39
quote:
Originally posted by PsychicTwin
This was my 1st time voting...
and this was the most NON depressing statement I've read all day.
Frank Black: The telecaster... It is simply the best one!
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| Ebb Vicious |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:05:22
ann arbor, mi
my spot had no line, i was in and out quicker than a virgin on prom night. |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:04:54
quote:
Originally posted by BLT
I figured the Republican Party would want a DNA sample of each voter, to be put in a national database. Glad I was wrong.
I think I voted on that proposition today. |
| BLT |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 13:02:58
I figured the Republican Party would want a DNA sample of each voter, to be put in a national database. Glad I was wrong. |
| PsychicTwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 12:58:15
Fairfax, VA
It was a quick, in-and-out affair at the elementary school that I went to. They did check ID, but the rest of the voting all computerized and touchscreen, really straightforward. This was my 1st time voting... |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 12:53:39
Thanks apl4eris. My google search didn't find such a good link.
So, erebus, why was it SUCH a depressing question? |
| apl4eris |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 12:32:44
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Isn't it illegal to ask for ID (except maybe from first time voters)?
This may just be the most depressing question I've ever read.
A new federal law requires that all transfer and first time voters show ID at the polls. Also, as far as I know, at least 17 states added an "ID-for-all" provision to "prevent confusion, discrimination, and allay fears over security concerns and voter fraud".
Voter ID requirements by state:
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legman/elect/taskfc/voteridreq.htm |
| Erebus |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 12:17:24
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Isn't it illegal to ask for ID (except maybe from first time voters)?
This may just be the most depressing question I've ever read. |
| dayanara |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 12:00:23
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious
apl, it's about time someone told you; girls have tacos, boys have schnitzels.
Wait a minute, I thought FB had a taco. This schnitzel business is much more confusing than voting...
Around here, intolerance will not be tolerated |
| darwin |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 11:57:48
Davis, CA. Smooth as silk. Waited maybe a minute. We still have the punchcards, but I didn't leave any hanging chads.
Isn't it illegal to ask for ID (except maybe from first time voters)? |
| dayanara |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 11:57:14
North Palm Beach, Fl
No line, but it still took 10 minutes for the little old lady to find my name on the list. She stopped twice to ask me if I was a doctor (I came straight from work, had my scrubs on). She'd flip through the first few pages, then jump to the back, then to the front, etc. I felt like screaming, "It's in alphabetical order!" Jesus. When she found me she took my ID and then made me state my full address. Everything else went off without a hitch, though. The new touch screens made it pretty fool-proof.
Around here, intolerance will not be tolerated |
| TameReg |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 11:53:05
Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh.
Only two people ahead of me. Had my ID ready, but they didn't ask for it. In and out quickly. Pretty uneventful.
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| Broken Face |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 11:27:41
Cresskill, NJ
No line, didn't have to show ID. Signed the book, voted, and left in under 3 minutes. Triple checked to make sure i didn't absent mindedly forget/fuck up anything.
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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| soundofataris |
Posted - 11/02/2004 : 11:12:01
Islip, New York
The place has been jammed backed all day. My mom voted at 6:00, my dad at 7:00, and myself at 10:00, and the parking lot has been full up all day. There are many districts at my voting place, since its right on the boarder between two C.D.s, so some were waiting a real long time. Not me, though. Luckily, my district's voting machines didn't have a line and I was in and out in two minutes. All I had to do was sign the book and match my signature up to the one on record.
We use the big voting machines with the levels. Good I love those things. Pulling the lever to close the curtian and open the ballot, flipping switches to choose, and then pulling the lever again to cast it. Its so satisfying. I walked out elated. So excited. Let the voices of men of good conscious be heard! |
