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MikeW Posted - 02/16/2007 : 12:43:37
Ok, so I just got my copy of the new album. I love Capt Pasty! Does anyone know who played on this record?
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shineoftheever Posted - 07/17/2014 : 20:16:02
the thing i love most about Bluefinger is that it introduced me to Herman Brood's work and i cant get enough of Go Nutz

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
shineoftheever Posted - 07/17/2014 : 20:14:50
when was Blizzard 1989? pre-Bluefinger methinks???

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
velvety Posted - 07/05/2014 : 04:12:08
Discoteque 36 is a black spot on Bluefinger. Kind of loses all momentum, the album has got some good songs after it, but it's kind of a bummer, that song, being there, waiting for you, just so it can end that golden streak the album has going for it.

It's a short album, unlike TOTY or The Golem, so it doesn't have time/songs to recover from that hurdle. Still, one of his most impressive post-TOTY albums, for sure.
Sprite Posted - 07/05/2014 : 03:04:20
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10

PS were there any B sides from this era that disappeared along with it?



Don't think so beyond those bonus tracks Virgina Reel and Polly's into me. Never heard demo versions of those though.
Jason Posted - 07/03/2014 : 14:06:40
Bluefinger is one of his very best (of any era, under any name), in my opinion.
Stevio10 Posted - 07/03/2014 : 11:29:42
PS were there any B sides from this era that disappeared along with it?
Stevio10 Posted - 07/03/2014 : 11:26:52
Thats awesome, I wasnt aware the leaked version was different. I think I can see(hear) the polish as you say, I never noticed but it does seem different from 1st listens.

I really like Herman Brood now, he reminds me of a Dutch Iggy/Springsteen.

Nijmegen show is amazing, love Gwaneshwar, All Around The World (kicks ass) and I Sent Away.

Svn Fnrs and Bluefinger combined make a hell of a listen and give TOTY a run for its money.

The Golem has strangely made me go back to CoR and made me realise both albums are islands, as in they seem to exist without a visible evolutionary step - another reason to love fb/bf.
Sprite Posted - 07/03/2014 : 11:13:54
quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever


I saved a few of the early demos i think Sprite, i'll check to see if i can share them...check that, doesnt look like i've got them on this computer; i have a hard drive in my drawer from my dead laptop. i think they might be in there....





Eternally grateful if you could find them. I can't remember too well but I think Frank might have even leaked them via this forum? He definitely was posting the lyrics and there was speculation it was new Pixies at one point. I've never been much of a music downloader, I think Bluefinger was one of the only ones I ever ripped.
BunsenH Posted - 07/03/2014 : 06:56:16
quote:
Originally posted by Bohemoth

Were the leaked ones different? I don't remember better go check.



My favorite Black Fancis release is by far "Live at Nijmegen". All of Bluefinger is played together live--he refers to it as "the opera". Plus, a bunch of the best picks from other BF releases.

Fans of the leaked version (I assume it is before mastering) will likely enjoy "Nijmegen"...
Bohemoth Posted - 07/03/2014 : 06:19:40
Were the leaked ones different? I don't remember better go check.
shineoftheever Posted - 07/03/2014 : 05:32:14
Der Golem beats Bluefinger anyways.

as BF I rank them:

Der Golem
SVN FNGRS
Bluefinger
NonStopErotik
Abbabubba

I saved a few of the early demos i think Sprite, i'll check to see if i can share them...check that, doesnt look like i've got them on this computer; i have a hard drive in my drawer from my dead laptop. i think they might be in there....


"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
Sprite Posted - 07/03/2014 : 05:23:33
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10
Im liking the rawness of Bluefinger of late more than I originally did at its release




Do you listen to the official release or the early demos that leaked. I had the leaked album on my laptop and stupidly overwrote them with the official release which is much more polished and less exciting for me (especially Threshold).

Still for me one of his best solo albums though, but I do miss the crustier early versions of the songs.
Stevio10 Posted - 07/03/2014 : 00:05:57
Haha it often changes between TOTY, DITS, yellow, Pistolero (yes really!), BLD and Bluefinger and currently Bluefinger is getting the most listens.

Cap'n Pasty, Threshold, Lolita, Mouth, Rubber, Test Pilot, Heart, Money....those are like a Super Street Fighter 2 combo!

While TOTY is like a Mortal Combat 22 punch combo, Im liking the rawness of Bluefinger of late more than I originally did at its release
shineoftheever Posted - 07/02/2014 : 16:59:58
as Black Francis or FB/BF combined? if the latter, you high, bro?

<cough>TOTY<cough>

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
Stevio10 Posted - 06/30/2014 : 22:49:17
Bluefinger has firmly established itself as my now favourite solo album.
Brank_Flack Posted - 12/16/2010 : 14:48:40
Yeah, she told me it was in Zwolle so I have up. I had a really great time in Amsterdam, it's such a beautiful and interesting city! I'm figuring out why Black Francis has been prefering Europe as of late.
billgoodman Posted - 12/16/2010 : 12:00:15
The statue is located at the cemetry, on his grave actually. There's also a statue of Brood himself in Zwolle. Hope you enjoyed your stay in Amsterdam!

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
Brank_Flack Posted - 12/16/2010 : 09:57:39
I went to Amsterdam last weekend (I'm a Canadian doing an exchange year in Scotland), and on one map it said something about Herman Brood which I thought might be the statue mentioned in Angels Come to Comfort You, so I went to the area but couldn't find anything. I went to an information booth and the women I asked was very impressed I knew who he was and asked me how I knew him - i told her about the album - it turns out her father worked for him which I thought was pretty cool.
I did see the Hilton Hotel in Amsterdam, which was good enough for John and Yoko, man.
johnnyribcage Posted - 04/30/2010 : 08:41:03
quote:
Originally posted by Active Duck

Maybe I should go back to this one. It challenges Fastman Raiderman as the least played album in the catalogue for me.



Bummer. It's tied with Teenager and Dog for best ever in my book.



Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
Active Duck Posted - 04/29/2010 : 15:47:29
Maybe I should go back to this one. It challenges Fastman Raiderman as the least played album in the catalogue for me.
IceManCometh Posted - 04/29/2010 : 15:35:06
I agree, 1965. In fact, this one isn't hard for me to rank. It's definitely in the top five or six.
1965 Posted - 04/29/2010 : 12:10:58
I just listened to Bluefinger again after a six-month hiatus. I was unexpectedly blown away, once more. I think this is FB/Black Francis' greatest hour. Every track is just solid gold. It is very hard (impossible?) to rank BFB's album's - but this one has got to be up there. Very underrated imo.


I have the key to #902
awestruck Posted - 04/27/2007 : 19:27:51
I am sooooo excited!!! I finally have Bluefinger! I just had to share my excitement with someone who would understand. Mr. soon to be awestruck doesn't quite understand. But hey, nobody's perfect. Can't wait to hear it all.


Favorite Quote: awestruck is a she, she's a she. -trobrianders
kingphilbert Posted - 03/29/2007 : 19:36:54
I didn't need any convincing that Frank's still the man. I've liked everything solo and Catholics. The Nashville records. Then I start reading all your comments on Bluefinger and think, yeah I can wait, but I coulkdn't. And I found it. And I love it! I think is Frank Black getting back to the heart of being Black Francis.

--
"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!"
ObfuscateByWill Posted - 03/29/2007 : 16:10:33
It's on Soulseek.

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
theonecontender Posted - 03/29/2007 : 09:20:30
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Can I make a suggestion? We've got two Bluefinger threads going now, with the same lines of discussion going in both. We ought to stick to one or the other. I vote for the spoilers one, but without a lot of conviction.


My fault.. Didn't realize there was another thread going on for those in the know. Bluefinger rocks!
johnc Posted - 03/28/2007 : 13:58:56
Gonna have to get me some of them bees!
anazgnos Posted - 03/28/2007 : 12:58:09
quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

I think it's a bit early to say that ALL the bluefinger album was written for the pixies. I'd guess a part of it was (for the second song it's obvious, and maybe just the music). Frank could made a mix of songs written for the pixies he wanted to do anyway and some other chord progressions he had, and wrote all the lyrics about Brood at the end. I mean, that all "pixies demo gone bluefinger" was'nt confirmed by himself, is'nt it? The album vibe is very coherent, it fits to Herman's style with that punk'r'roll touch and it doesnt sound at all like a last minute colage.
To me it's much too rock'n'roll for the pixies. The pixies are just rock.



I agree - clearly, he has written songs with the Pixies in mind (Gyanshewar, etc.) over the last year or so, and in the absence of any apparent unified thrust towards making a Pixies album, those songs are slipping out through other avenues. I assume the same thing is in effect hear.
coastline Posted - 03/28/2007 : 12:57:52
Too late for that now, isn't it?
anazgnos Posted - 03/28/2007 : 12:55:07
If I were moderator, I would have simply put the "spoilers" tag on this thread.
coastline Posted - 03/28/2007 : 10:35:58
Can I make a suggestion? We've got two Bluefinger threads going now, with the same lines of discussion going in both. We ought to stick to one or the other. I vote for the spoilers one, but without a lot of conviction.

EDIT: Woohoo, I got another bee! (I'm obsessed with bee count.)


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
theonecontender Posted - 03/28/2007 : 10:15:39
quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

I think it's a bit early to say that ALL the bluefinger album was written for the pixies.


I totally agree. But I think a lot of them were written for Kim's approval, no doubt.

About this Herman Brood thing.. I haven't really paid attention to the lyrics or anything and just went to old wiki page to catch up on this theory. Found this interesting part:

"On 5 November 2006 the Groninger Museum (Museum of Groningen) opened an exposition devoted to Herman Brood's life and work, comprised of paintings, lyrics and poetry, portraits ..."

Seems like around the right time to look for lyrical inspiration once the guitar/melody demos have been turned down by a burnt out bassist. The timing seems right.

Rock and Roll is back with avengance.

1c
Crispy Water Posted - 03/28/2007 : 09:30:02
I haven't heard the songs so I cannot comment on their musical style, but if the Herman Brood theory is correct (and it certainly seems VERY plausible) it sounds like exactly the kind of thing Frank would want a Pixies "reunion" album to be: angle just a bit of the hype machine away from them to shed light on a relatively obscure cult figure. Maybe some of the songs were written after the Pixies decided against it, but I would be far from surprised to learn that the concept album was planned for them.

Of course, knowing our man this might even be just a batch of songs recorded in a couple days with their release intended to distract us all from a clandestine Pixies session...nah

Nothing is ever something.
Grotesque Posted - 03/28/2007 : 08:11:36
I think it's a bit early to say that ALL the bluefinger album was written for the pixies. I'd guess a part of it was (for the second song it's obvious, and maybe just the music). Frank could made a mix of songs written for the pixies he wanted to do anyway and some other chord progressions he had, and wrote all the lyrics about Brood at the end. I mean, that all "pixies demo gone bluefinger" was'nt confirmed by himself, is'nt it? The album vibe is very coherent, it fits to Herman's style with that punk'r'roll touch and it doesnt sound at all like a last minute colage.
To me it's much too rock'n'roll for the pixies. The pixies are just rock.
theonecontender Posted - 03/27/2007 : 21:59:23
Caved, and I went out looking for it. All I gotta say is that whoever said it would make a phenomenal pixies album is right. The space is for Joe, cuz Joe rocks, don't ya know? Kim made a poor decision, and not surprisingly. Poor everybody - except for Frank. Because as always, he is the man left standing with an amazing piece of rock and roll.

1c the pirate

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