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klikger Posted - 04/11/2004 : 01:02:05
Is anyone else eagerly waiting for the next FB & tC tour? I mean, I love the Pixies. They are my second favorite band of all time after Radiohead. But I have really only been listening to Frank's post-pixies stuff for a while now. I guess that me never seeing a Catholics show yet has something to do with it. I am super-hyped about getting to see the reunion tour in Minneapolis Tuesday and Chicago in the fall, but I'm also looking forward to next year and the hope that FB & tC will tour soon. You must understand.
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FrankfanL Posted - 10/08/2004 : 13:17:30
Right on, Blarg007 !!! Sign me up...
blarg007 Posted - 10/08/2004 : 07:35:07

>> Denizen of the
Citizens Band <<


United Kingdom
1013 Posts
Posted - 10/07/2004 : 04:17:28

frank's ditched the cathlolics and now has a new backing band/session musicians for
recording.................................. get over it.

BLT
>> Denizen of the
Citizens Band <<


South Sandwich
Islands
1885 Posts
Posted - 10/07/2004 : 08:31:55

quote:

Originally posted by PixieSteve

... get over it.




Only if people agree to get over the Pixies.



okay. I got over it. now what?

Catholics Anonymous??
'we came to believe that a power greater than us
could power chord our blues away....
Ziggy Posted - 10/08/2004 : 02:46:35
I'd happily see both bands. I've seen Charles solo once, which I rather prefer to the two occassions I've seen the Pixies, but that's more down to the venue (tiny club versus theatre and festival) than the band.
BLT Posted - 10/07/2004 : 08:31:55
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

... get over it.



Only if people agree to get over the Pixies.
PixieSteve Posted - 10/07/2004 : 04:17:28
frank's ditched the cathlolics and now has a new backing band/session musicians for recording.................................. get over it.
kathryn Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:29:03
quote:
Originally posted by Devils Islander

Much as we all love the Pixies, there comes a time when you've just got to let go and move on. FB is a pioneer; so I'm sure that as soon as he's done with milking the 80's nostalgia market, and changing shitty nappies, then The Catholics will return bigger, better, and absolutely loaded for (dancing?) bear.

...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.



From your mouth (well, your keyboard) to God's ear, as the expression goes.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
Devils Islander Posted - 09/24/2004 : 06:29:34
Much as we all love the Pixies, there comes a time when you've just got to let go and move on. FB is a pioneer; so I'm sure that as soon as he's done with milking the 80's nostalgia market, and changing shitty nappies, then The Catholics will return bigger, better, and absolutely loaded for (dancing?) bear.

...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
kathryn Posted - 09/22/2004 : 12:47:45
I don't suggest suggesting it, just wishing for it. Most of my life right now is unfufilled wishes as it is .... and I know a lot of people here know that feeling.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
PsychicTwin Posted - 09/22/2004 : 12:36:53
That would be great indeed...
But I fear that we may come off as a bunch of obsessed sycophants if we seriously were to lobby such a show.

but it would be great. He and the guys could play any song whatsoever, and get a genuine accolade for each...no matter how obscure
n/a Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:48:29
That would be our better dream! But I think we only can dream about it...It would be a wonderful show!!!


I like his shoes, I like his hat, I´d like me better if I looked like that...
kathryn Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:25:08
And how great would it be if Charles did a show just for forum members? Though at this point I'd settle for him posting some day soon.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
n/a Posted - 09/22/2004 : 05:53:10
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

i'm with you, stymie! let's go!


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank



I´m with you K., you now it my friend!
kathryn Posted - 09/22/2004 : 05:03:24
i'm with you, stymie! let's go!


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
stymie Posted - 09/21/2004 : 13:43:30
Give me solo Frank Black anyday!
kathryn Posted - 09/21/2004 : 10:16:09
The Catholics just rock more. I've seen many a Pixies show that rocked, but the Catholics vibe is -- I dunno, it's hard to put into words -- less arty and more hard rocking.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
gary13th Posted - 09/21/2004 : 06:08:19
definetly, I saw frank and the catholics twice last year and I personally prefer their style of music to the pixies (and i do like the pixies.) Their sometimes off the cuff setlists (with rich on the keyboards one minute, switching to pedal steel and then to guitar - dave p on guitar, then onto pedal steel)

got Devils workshop, show me your tears and Black letter days on my minidisc at the moment and listening to it just makes me want more FB&TC. we'll see.



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They are about, dressed to deceive, architect David Vincent
kathryn Posted - 09/20/2004 : 10:47:42
Gloomy, indeed.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
blarg007 Posted - 09/20/2004 : 10:34:44
quote:
Originally posted by PsychicTwin

quote:
Originally posted by cassandra is

Rich Guilbert is one of the most pathetic guitarist I've ever seen... Lyle, please return...

pas de bras pas de chocolat



The two have different aesthetics in their lead style, and as a guitar player I can appreciate both. It's a matter of taste...some would say Lyle's maniacally precise yet flamboyant style could be construed as a little cheesy...others might say that Rich Gilbert is a loose-cannon lead player with some sloppiness to his playing and a penchant for the occassional strange note. (I would consider both comments stupid, personally--they are both highly unique and skillful guitarists...Cult of Ray solos get me so very pumped, but so do the Pistolero solos)

but... Rich Gilbert is NOT a "pathetic" guitarist, by any means!!! the man is talented as all hell. what do you find pathetic about his playing, kathryn? pray tell




this hits the nail on the head.
If the FB&theCatholics don't go back out there..
then the world is definitely a gloomy place

blleeccchh!
kathryn Posted - 09/20/2004 : 07:49:58
There is no comparison. I'll just leave it at that and spare everybody another of my "When Will the Catholics Tour Again?" freakout rants. Though I am considering starting a virtual shrine to Dave McCaffrey, unless Ramona beats me to it.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
cassandra is Posted - 09/20/2004 : 06:33:47
Let the 3 boys and the Kim-girl enjoy themselves a little bit with the Pixies... I love the Catholics too, but I can't say that their shows were better than the Pixies ones, I think that there's just no comparison

pas de bras pas de chocolat
jonathan Posted - 09/20/2004 : 06:23:58
Kathryn

I'd love to be wrong, and I am just guessing. I've been lucky enough to see the Catholics five or six times in the last few years and I must say their shows were more enjoyable than the Pixies ones. Though it's good to see the Pixies the showmanship and musical ability of the Catholics, especially on cover songs, was so much fun. The version of Six-Sixty-Six at their, as it stands, last show, even slower than usual, was one of the best live moments I've ever seen of any band.

All we can do is hope for a Catholics reunion - never imagined the Pixies one would happen so there has to be a good shot the Catholics one will, but I'm not getting my hopes up yet.

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Treat yourself - www.blackmarias.com - the best new band in the world.
kathryn Posted - 09/20/2004 : 05:08:28
Jonathan, I cannot live in a universe where you are right re: "Catholics touring again doesn't look likely." Going to shuffle off this mortal coil....


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
jonathan Posted - 09/20/2004 : 00:07:19
Grow up kids. Catholics touring again doesn't look likely anyhow. It was nice not to know what stands as the last ever Catholics gig (London, Shepherds Bush) was such or it would have spoilt the atmosphere. That was the first time I'd seen Frank where more people cheered the post Pixies songs than the Pixies songs, you felt finally he'd eclipsed the memory. Wonder if that in someway motivated him to revisit it. Or it could hav just been the $s.

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Treat yourself - www.blackmarias.com - the best new band in the world.
BLT Posted - 09/19/2004 : 21:29:37
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

Anyone remember FB's defence of Rich on this very site?



Frank's defense of Rich was related to attacks leveled at his character. Someone had labeled Rich an asshole, not a bad guitarist.
kathryn Posted - 09/19/2004 : 16:43:18
Omigod! I leave town (and my computer) for five days and this is what happens! First of all, let's stop all this bickering and unite, people. Both guitarists are great in their own special way. Can we agree?

And PsychicTwin, good lord, you confused me with someone else because I would never never ever use the adjective "pathetic" to describe either of these guys or any of my beloved Catholics.

There, I hope that puts the universe right.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
Ziggy Posted - 09/18/2004 : 09:42:26
Anyone remember FB's defence of Rich on this very site?

I've yet to see the Catholics live. Saw Frank solo last year and it was very intense. Small venue, if anything, really helped.
cassandra is Posted - 09/18/2004 : 01:20:26
Ok... I will stop the provocation, but, honestly: you can't say that Rich is better than Lyle! I mean, just listen to TOTY!
And Lyle was a really much more fun person on stage

pas de bras pas de chocolat
Erebus Posted - 09/17/2004 : 14:57:14
This slam of Rich is nuts. He doesn't murder any of Frank's songs and if he did Frank wouldn't have him on tour. The drum stick thing goes way back beyond the Youth. And he most definitely not a jerk, as the many of us who have spent a few minutes with him can tell tell you.

Sometimes the things I read on this forum make me believe in the existence of alternate universes.
n/a Posted - 09/17/2004 : 14:28:37
I can´t agree with you Cassandra...I saw them live last year and I thought he was great on stage! I was right in front of him and I loved the show!
cassandra is Posted - 09/17/2004 : 14:16:39
Rich gibert is definitely a bad guitarist:
- he has no sense of melody in his solos: it's pure technique for the technique, seems like he's masturbating himself with his guitar on stage
-he murders all the all FB and Pixies songs on stage
- He stole the use of the drum stick on the guitar from Sonic Youth -and they use much better than him (viva Lee Ranaldo!)
- He stole his haircut from Andy Warhol
- He uses ugly guitars instead of THE Telecaster
- He shows off
- He's a jerk

C.Q.F.D.

pas de bras pas de chocolat
BLT Posted - 09/17/2004 : 13:39:59
There is only one man Frank refers to as "the first Catholic."

Impressive as Rich Gilbert is, he is not that man.
FrankfanL Posted - 09/17/2004 : 13:34:20
One more vote for Lyle !!! Please come back Catholics!!!
Carl Posted - 09/17/2004 : 11:59:41
Workman's solo's on TOTY are killer....I've never seen FB live with the Catholics(saw him at the Olympia, Dublin, on the COR tour-he played at 12 AM!), but I'd like to...I'm sure he'll get back together with them for some shows after the current tour.

CARL.

"Join up, conform and wear a different uniform!"
PsychicTwin Posted - 09/17/2004 : 11:45:34
quote:
Originally posted by cassandra is

Rich Guilbert is one of the most pathetic guitarist I've ever seen... Lyle, please return...

pas de bras pas de chocolat



The two have different aesthetics in their lead style, and as a guitar player I can appreciate both. It's a matter of taste...some would say Lyle's maniacally precise yet flamboyant style could be construed as a little cheesy...others might say that Rich Gilbert is a loose-cannon lead player with some sloppiness to his playing and a penchant for the occassional strange note. (I would consider both comments stupid, personally--they are both highly unique and skillful guitarists...Cult of Ray solos get me so very pumped, but so do the Pistolero solos)

but... Rich Gilbert is NOT a "pathetic" guitarist, by any means!!! the man is talented as all hell. what do you find pathetic about his playing, kathryn? pray tell
Jose Jones Posted - 09/17/2004 : 10:53:54
not to get into this discussion or anything, but let me get into this discussion:
rich gilbert is a pathetic guitarist?! obviously you haven't seen the man live! i'll agree that lyle's style translates better to tape than rich's, but rich blew me away a year and a half ago in milwaukee. i haven't been the same since!

-dan

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