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maxpower Posted - 09/23/2004 : 17:11:13
get it here http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=7029

Pixies
3 July 2004
Les Eurockéennes de Belfort
Belfort, France

Source: TV Broadcast on MCM France, 15 September 2004 (4.00am-5.30am)
Lineage: DVB Digital Satellite TV -> PC DVB Card -> HD
Video: 720x576 PAL MPEG-2 4:3 (16:9 letterboxed) (re-encoded at 4Mbit/s)
Audio: 256kbps/48KHz MPEG-1, Layer II

DVD > ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper > wav > flac

Disc 1 - 79:56

01 - crowd
02 - Wave Of Mutilation (UK Surf)
03 - In Heaven
04 - Something Against You
05 - River Euphrates
06 - U-MASS
07 - Bone Machine
08 - Cactus
09 - Ed Is Dead
10 - I Bleed
11 - Monkey Gone To Heaven
12 - Hey
13 - No.13 Baby
14 - Levitate Me
15 - Subbacultcha
16 - Dead
17 - Gouge Away
18 - Velouria
19 - Caribou
20 - Mr. Grieves
21 - Crackity Jones
22 - Broken Face
23 - Isla de Encanta
24 - Tame
25 - Here Comes Your Man
26 - Nimrod's Son
27 - Holiday Song
28 - Where Is My Mind?
29 - Vamos

Disc 2 - 11:21

Encore:
30 - crowd
31 - Wave of Mutilation
32 - Debaser
33 - Gigantic

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flac fingerprint

pixies2004-07-03d1t01.flac:df1469cac2d8f1d730ff8cabc2288c8f
pixies2004-07-03d1t02.flac:c48c3b171f35b0f9bd8bfade561dedf1
pixies2004-07-03d1t03.flac:c1a1c31e3ddd1ecb8793c5622b41b9e4
pixies2004-07-03d1t04.flac:82874c5845712af94453e8b656b43d0d
pixies2004-07-03d1t05.flac:4e8a6461f0d00decbb9fa7bdd3be0005
pixies2004-07-03d1t06.flac:858554e3cfe19f5d3abd663e552faa43
pixies2004-07-03d1t07.flac:b6171484273984a50d9b3abf256bcc31
pixies2004-07-03d1t08.flac:5c5019902154190dd3f02c5a0d5b1c57
pixies2004-07-03d1t09.flac:fe302ae1d42a9c2001fde33a65100217
pixies2004-07-03d1t10.flac:99c7ff7fc9511664b24eb8c3a5e886d7
pixies2004-07-03d1t11.flac:9af8a96e76c8ea3ddc7edc15fe036d6d
pixies2004-07-03d1t12.flac:aba4830401a6f01c43a2e9480a438e1e
pixies2004-07-03d1t13.flac:18924ee4ac7a43e6e42f0cfb6880316c
pixies2004-07-03d1t14.flac:d934c75516078e882ecc2a84959c535d
pixies2004-07-03d1t15.flac:58d5747817278849c81d0f6a4538e6a3
pixies2004-07-03d1t16.flac:0619fec2670dfcf95d0d7dd0b2a8013b
pixies2004-07-03d1t17.flac:72d30940b458ab74d33bed334843aeeb
pixies2004-07-03d1t18.flac:3b2903b3cf3460bf35b54525e6d40e05
pixies2004-07-03d1t19.flac:22c729d50c71a974658e383c3265a95a
pixies2004-07-03d1t20.flac:24b50f7b475ec06d5b08314849173784
pixies2004-07-03d1t21.flac:cb5dabcdd3c08317f885ff9f7248c0ee
pixies2004-07-03d1t22.flac:1afea35d715d2369db06dad92cb0b6c9
pixies2004-07-03d1t23.flac:e50faa96000a00925cd238fc829ceebb
pixies2004-07-03d1t24.flac:9fef3564b17239f1e31eb89956058cba
pixies2004-07-03d1t25.flac:9279d89789ba2dfb01be14d9b628f697
pixies2004-07-03d1t26.flac:4e0ea4eac4854c424c91ff0d951bcdf0
pixies2004-07-03d1t27.flac:d07c66ba536385dc14e7762bd77b0d85
pixies2004-07-03d1t28.flac:f1cbcf3a88c155d91800a839be14ca44
pixies2004-07-03d1t29.flac:a70a25cd1a412c08865a098f862065e4
pixies2004-07-03d2t01.flac:7a8dce1669e2223c2215897dc39ea8cc
pixies2004-07-03d2t02.flac:bc72981dbdb75ad1254b696b10269195
pixies2004-07-03d2t03.flac:8f1d7e940f761f2ce4db41227e3eff64
pixies2004-07-03d2t04.flac:ccd3134d18f86d01d4d2b5a4e39b1ddf
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cousi Posted - 09/26/2004 : 05:56:21
topic Eurockéennes de Belfort.

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9424

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oh kissme cunt and kiss me cock
oh kiss the world oh kiss the sky
oh kiss my ass oh let it rock
johndietzel Posted - 09/26/2004 : 03:06:44
In defense of these files, they're really a labor saver for folks with a fast connection. I planned to decode them to WAVs, burn them as CD(s) on my own, and preserve them in some lossless format. But since all I had to do was click a single link and wait, I took this route instead of the alternative.

Now a nerdy piece of commentary on the controversial "lossy" audio reactions I have seen:

It's inaccurate, or at least misguided, to consider a less than 1411 K/s audio file "lossy" but fail to consider other inferior sources as equally, if not more, evil. Burning an imperceptibly lossy digital soundboard audio recording to CD makes a lot more sense than burning some super-shitty audience recording, or some crackily radio broadcast which is, technically at least, "lossless."

I think "lossiness" should be measured as the sum of any sound quality discrepancies between the sensible audio information that meets our ears during the performance, and the resulting playback of its commitment to the medium meant to preserve the original aural experience. By that standard, a relatively compressed audio source of a hi-fi broadcast will almost always sound better, and present a more accurate simulation of the original sound, than a bunch of horsecrap minidisc or tape recorded audience audio sources. However, somehow a terrible audience recording is A-OK on STG or EasyTree, while a nearly perfect MP2 sourced soundboard recording is ridiculed.

In my opinion, a recording that presents added hiss, or audience chatter, or distortion of any kind that interferes with one's ability to hear the actual music, should be considered much "lossier" than a compressed format which doesn't add such hindrances. Whereas with MP3s and the like, you lose mostly imperceptible (with good encoding) sound information, with technically "lossless" audience tapes replete with distortion, tape hiss, muffling, audience noise, and many other distractions, the result yields significantly more loss of the original sound than is encountered via compression.

Obviously nothing can be considered completely "lossless" by an objective standard. I think a lot of the STG/EasyTree SHN snob types need to reassess their dogmatic obstinacy on the issue. Between this, their persistent obsession with a bulky and outdated audio format (SHN), and those “what’s the least practical way we could set as the standard for naming audio files” format rules, these STG and EasyTree patriarchs are as close to cultists as just about anyone. Aside from perhaps Catholicism, one would be hard-pressed to find a more rite-laden group than the one that unites these people.

I truly believe that if I blasted a high quality broadcast of a concert, and "documented" it in front of my home stereo speakers, onto say, a minidisc, then converted it to WAV, and finally to SHN, the mentally lossy deadheads in trade circles would laud the accomplishment. Granted I would have to leave ONE generation out of the SACRED "lineage" in order to pass their holy muster, but I freaking guarantee that were I to upload the minidisc sourced recording alongside the MP2 sourced as, let's say, APE files, I would be completely ridiculed.

I think most people who have commented here or on EasyTree about this particular torrent are merely saying “download the original source as offered, since it’s around 1/3 the size of the FLAC files, and will save bandwidth.” That’s sound advice, and appropriate in its context. I was fully aware of that advantage, myself, but as I mentioned a bit ago, the seeder’s hard work decoding to WAV, setting and naming tracks, and compressing them to FLAC, saved me a TON of my own time and effort.

Now I forgot what I was even saying. Damn.


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Thank you for the help that I like it.
Daisy Girl Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:53:10
Thanks Maxpower! I am going to check it out this weekend. I can't wait to hear this show!
Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:38:37
OK, thanks Benji. Just tryin to keep things legit.

Champ, you play 'em. You can get FLAC codecs for Winamp, etc.


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The Champ Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:34:10
So what do u do with these FLAC files?????????????
benji Posted - 09/24/2004 : 09:03:56
it was a pro-shoot of a gig in france that was broadcast last week.


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Cult_Of_Frank Posted - 09/24/2004 : 08:50:04
Uh, which DVD is this from? The one for sale, or a boot?


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frankvink Posted - 09/24/2004 : 08:02:11
Search the torrents at Easytree and you will find the DVD version that davechapman made and another audio torrent for an mp2 file. This mp2 file is the original audio data as it was transmitted by MCM. It is much smaller than this flac torrent but contains the same data. This flac file is simply a huge blow up of the same data... Save yourself about 400MB of unnessacary download and get the mp2 or go for the DVD, which is about 3,8GB.

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The Champ Posted - 09/24/2004 : 07:04:50
have u guys actually went to the site???

Source: TV Broadcast on MCM France, 15 September 2004 (4.00am-5.30am)
Lineage: DVB Digital Satellite TV -> PC DVB Card -> HD
Video: 720x576 PAL MPEG-2 4:3 (16:9 letterboxed) (re-encoded at 4Mbit/s)
Audio: 256kbps/48KHz MPEG-1, Layer II

what does that tell u
benji Posted - 09/24/2004 : 07:00:41
yeah, 600 megs will be audio.


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The Champ Posted - 09/24/2004 : 06:53:59
i dont think so..cause its like 600 megs, how woud i view this download anyway??
johndietzel Posted - 09/23/2004 : 21:47:57
This is the audio ripped from the DVD. Maybe I am misunderstanding your comment. But it's "just" the audio.

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Thank you for the help that I like it.
lard Posted - 09/23/2004 : 18:00:55
nice! thanks for this.........

.......now i've got 3 Pixies DVD's in a que... please keep it open for a while! lol

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