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lsinger9404 Posted - 03/08/2004 : 22:35:41
50 Foot Wave is playing Amoeba Music March 23rd. in case you don't know, 50 Foot Wave is Bernard Georges, Rob Ahlers and Kristin Hersh from Throwing Muses. Being fellow Bostonians and former tour mates (Frank Black opened for them in 2000)...I wouldn't be surprised if some magic pixie dust is in the air at Amoeba. Not saying they'd play, but mabye be in the audience.

By the way, has anyone heard "Epiphany" off the Muses' 2003 CD?? It sounds as close to being the Pixies without actually being the Pixies.
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echo park Posted - 03/10/2004 : 19:15:40
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

Is Boston a Boston band? Tom Scholz was born in Ohio. When I plug into my Rockman, I need to know if Tom counts.




BLT just made my hour!! I miss my Rockman, sort of. I think I left it on a train in Spain or somewhere. Sounded way too 80's but portable electrcic practice is great on long train rides!
BLT Posted - 03/10/2004 : 09:38:14
Is Boston a Boston band? Tom Scholz was born in Ohio. When I plug into my Rockman, I need to know if Tom counts.
Mroocore Posted - 03/10/2004 : 05:33:08
the only reason why people refer to the Pixies as a Boston band is, because they are a Boston band. if not in Boston in 1986 the four members of the Pixies would not have gotten together. Charles and Joey could have found a bassist and drummer in LA, NYC, or London, but they did not it was IN BOSTON that the Pixies started, so they are a Boston band.

jo, you are right the downstairs(their largest room)of The Middle East in Cambridge holds 575.

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jo Posted - 03/10/2004 : 03:48:08
yep - I was at that show, and Bob Mould was bloody excellent too. And I think it'd be pretty safe to say the Middle East in Boston holds a lot less than 1000 people too... more like 500-600!!
benji Posted - 03/10/2004 : 01:27:00
quote:
Originally posted by lsinger9404

Yeah...Frank opened for them in 2000. May have just been a one-off show. From thius article:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/throwingmuses-st2.shtml

Cue the year 2000. Inspired by the band's rabid and fiercely dedicated Internet fanbase at www.throwingmusic.com, the Muses throw a convention style gathering that becomes a reunion of sorts. Gathering in Boston for an event titled the "Gut Pageant", Hersh and company got together with more than 1,000 fans from around the world and just hung out a bit, culminating in a live performance that included an opening set from Frank Black and the first Tanya Donelly performance with the band in ten years. Inspired by the experience Hersh decided to gather up the rest of the band and head back to the studio for the first time in half a decade.

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Granted, that may not be a whole tour...but he did "opened" for them.



i think you'll find that popmatters.com have got it all wrong.
it was Bob Mould who opened for the Gut Pageant show, not Frank Black.



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EG Posted - 03/09/2004 : 19:37:39
Well, what about all the seattle bands? Where they all born and raised there?

Pixies are from boston. That is why when they come back to the US to tour this summer, they will play the last 5 shows of their tour in boston, coming full circle. And they won't let you in to the shows unless you have a mass license or school ID.
Chris Knight Posted - 03/09/2004 : 17:16:46
My comment was a passing one. I was mainly trying to point out that the Pixies do not currently reside in Boston and that to refer to them as Bostonians is potentially misleading to forumgoers that don't know any better.

The argument of whether the Pixies are or were a "Boston band" is, IMO, an argument over semantics and/or personal philosophies. Personally, when I think of Boston bands, I think of bands for whom the majority of members were raised in Boston or bands whose audience is mostly locally-based. I don't really think the Pixies meet either criteria, but that doesn't mean I object to people calling them a Boston band. I'm sure I've referred to them as such in the past.
lsinger9404 Posted - 03/09/2004 : 13:07:26
Mr.Grieves-
Thanks for your fact-filled support!
mrgrieves1971 Posted - 03/09/2004 : 12:53:30
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

To refer to the Pixies or Throwing Muses as Bostonians (let alone "fellow" Bostonians) is a wee bit off the mark, though both bands obviously had their start in that city's early alternative scene.


What's your beef with calling The Pixies and Throwing Muses Boston bands? It's just a way of identifying them. They started here before they became national bands. Just because they domiciled elsewhere after hitting it big doesn't make them lose their Boston identity. They sure as hell didn't play small clubs, write and record all their early music anywhere else. If someone said the Beatles were a band from Liverpool, would you disagree because they all moved to London, New York and elsewhere. Would you prefer to say the Pixies are from somewhere else or from nowhere at all? Do you think they are an LA band because Charles and Joey moved there in 1991?

I posted this elsewhere but, here it goes:

Regarding the Boston/Massachusetts connection:

In addition to the fact that the band started here and basically remained a local band until the recording of Bossanova, I think Dave is originally from Burlington, MA which is a suburb about 20 minutes from Boston. Joey is from Longmeadow, MA which is out by Springfield. I think his family is still out here. When I saw the Martinis a couple of times in 1995 in Cambridge, MA, his whole family was there. Joey’s wife is from Rhode Island. I don't know how Kim ended up in Boston, but here ex-husband John Murphy still lives around here. She lived in Charlestown when the Pixies started. Charles went to U-Mass with Joey and moved to Boston to start the band. His brother still lives down Cape Cod and runs a bar there. Since about 1989, just about all of the Pixies shows around Boston were around Thanksgiving. I always figured it was planned so they could see their families. During the Bossanova and Trompe tours when I saw them at The Orpheum Theater in Boston, there was a whole row of older looking people which were obviously family members and during one of the shows the Pixies were introduced by a little kid who came on stage and said “Please welcome my brother’s band “THE PIXIES!!” (This kid was rocking out by the side of the stage. Someone once said that this is Charles’ half brother from one of his parent’s second marriages or something. Could be Dave’s brother. He was white, so I’m ruling out Joey.) The Pixies corporate entity JOKIDACH Corp. was a Massachusetts corporation. I think Frank’s manager, Ken Goes, still operates out of the Boston area.

So the Pixies/Boston connection is very strong. As Sepultura said “rooooooots … bloody roooooots!!!”

The Pixies roots are in Boston.
lsinger9404 Posted - 03/09/2004 : 09:19:36
Well, o.k...mabye "Bostonian" wasn't the term...but yes, both band got their stsart in the Boston Music scene. So mabye I could have said "Pixies and Throwing Muses - both Boston Music Scensters".
lsinger9404 Posted - 03/09/2004 : 09:16:12
Yeah...Frank opened for them in 2000. May have just been a one-off show. From thius article:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/throwingmuses-st2.shtml

Cue the year 2000. Inspired by the band's rabid and fiercely dedicated Internet fanbase at www.throwingmusic.com, the Muses throw a convention style gathering that becomes a reunion of sorts. Gathering in Boston for an event titled the "Gut Pageant", Hersh and company got together with more than 1,000 fans from around the world and just hung out a bit, culminating in a live performance that included an opening set from Frank Black and the first Tanya Donelly performance with the band in ten years. Inspired by the experience Hersh decided to gather up the rest of the band and head back to the studio for the first time in half a decade.

-----------
Granted, that may not be a whole tour...but he did "opened" for them.
Chris Knight Posted - 03/09/2004 : 04:10:38
To refer to the Pixies or Throwing Muses as Bostonians (let alone "fellow" Bostonians) is a wee bit off the mark, though both bands obviously had their start in that city's early alternative scene.

Are you sure Frank opened for the Muses in 2000? I think Muses touring at that point consisted of Gut Pageant gatherings, for which (I'm assuming) Bob Mould opened? Of course, the Pixies/Muses were tourmates back in the day.

For my money, the outro of Los Flamingos sounds straight out of one of the greatest songs the Pixies never recorded.
billgoodman Posted - 03/09/2004 : 03:20:57
mwah, epiphany does sound a bit a like, but I wouldn't say it's just like the pixies though.
A great record though



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