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| mattb |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 07:37:14
Hey Everyone,
I posted this in the Winnipeg thread but this is huge news and everyone needs to know:
I have amazing news everyone. So you know how we got charged that extra amount and it says tickets aren't available for pickup yet. Well, I just got of the phone with the supervisor of ticketmaster in Winnipeg and he said they are doing this to make sure that no one is selling their tickets on Ebay! He said they're cross checking the auctions on ebay with the purchases amde and cancelling the tickets that are being auctioned off or were auctioned off!! He also said anyone who managed to get through the system with more than 4 tickets to the same person will have their orders cancelled as well. What this means he says is that it is possible that those extra tickets although not that many will go on sale again. He did say though that many of them will go to the promoters though. He said that it will tkae a few days to check all the tickets but that they should be available for pick up this Friday instead of today.
Also and this is huge news!!! He said they are trying to convince the pixies to add a second show on the next day!!! He said that since they don't have a show on that day the theatre is working with them to play a second night.
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| Perk |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 22:12:01
If you have tickets Ebay or others in you hand !!!
TM can't do any thing !!!
Don't worry!!!!
If you know you have good tickets, your cool !!!!
TM said crap to make them look good, and now have
changed the online ordering prosess.
I little to late but better now ?
If you got tickets and want to know if there good,
call TM.
They can't cancel tickets they mailed out !!!
The fast ticket option tickets should be checked !!
Don't sweat the petty things
and don't pet the sweaty things |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 18:32:58
the supervisor stressed to me that they would cancel ebay auctions if possible, BUT supposedly because ebay.com is based in the united states and tickmastercanada is dealing with this particular show they can't do anything about transactions based in the united states, or on US websites... basicly i dont think ticketmaster was able to take any action against online scaplers but they do claim they are monitoring it...
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| kromkamp |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 10:36:25
I would tend to think that would be a serious, serious legal violation (sharing contact information with TM without a subpeona)
They could just cancel the tickets, but your right, that screws two people. Plus, what if they are wrong and cancel the wrong tickets? Some innocent guy gets screwed also. Way too risky.
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| roomloo |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 09:46:24
People have speculated that eBay might share sellers' contact information with Ticketmaster, although that's all speculation.
The fact that a few really obvious Winnipeg auctions have successfully ended in the past week without being cancelled casts some doubt on this whole auction-cancellation theory (although I guess Ticketmaster might just be cancelling tickets instead of auctions, but then that would screw the innocent buyer as much as the scalper).
Either that or TM has been asleep at the switch. Who knows. |
| kromkamp |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 09:19:26
Assuming the auction doesnt list the exact seat location, I dont see any way for them to even know what ticket it is and who is selling it, unless I'm mistaking something? |
| dotJim |
Posted - 03/12/2004 : 09:14:50
good luck, aaron. hope things work out for you at the show
...and i have a tip for you if you want to email me at FrankBlackFan@GGLBS.com
Cheers,
Jim |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/09/2004 : 13:05:30
ok so i just got off the phone with a supervisor at ticketmaster in winnipeg,
i told them my whole story and gave them my ticket info....
the official word from them is that,
yes, they have been trying to crack down on ticket scalpers, particulary thru ebay,
but, the only tickets that ticketmaster can do anything about are tickets that are on the canadian ebay site, that is www.ebay.ca,
they can void tickets being sold by canadians to canadians over canadian based websites, they are tracking tickets on ebay.ca and have access to peoples info there...
in terms of ebay.com, or ebay.uk, since the event is based in canada and the canadian ticketmaster is handling the event, they CANNOT do anything about resale tickets, scalpers, ebay or otherwise in the united states or united kingdom....
furthermore i was on the phone with them for over ten minutes, they guy did tell me that he had recieved at least one inquiry previous to mine about some winnipeg pixies tickets from ebay out of the UK, he told me that only one account in the UK got tickets to the event, and since limit was 4 per sale, they could only have 4 tickets,
this is interesting cuz when i first came on here, i found a link to an ebay auction, which turned out to be the same tickets i had bought off ebay, same seller, only previous auction which someone else was the winning bidder,
so i emailed the seller and he said the original winning bidder never paid, so he re listed the tickets,
further suspicion had already occurred, when only days after i got my tickets off ebay, the seller re listed the same exact tickets on ebay for almost double the price i paid,
i emailed him and he promptly replied that he had lots of tickets in that section and he listed my seats by mistake, which at the time i believed, he even told me the other seats he had supposedly,
now i talk to the ticketmaster supervisor in winnipeg, and he assures me that only one account in the Uk got tickets and that it was only four tickets, so now i KNOW this guy is lying to me, at least about that...
so winnipeg ticketmaster tells me that my tickets are VALID tickets,
BUT, there is suspicion obviously, and it is entirely possible that this guy in the UK is selling the SAME tickets over and over again, since they are ticketfast, and he could just print out and email as many copies as he likes....
so at that point, the first print outs thru the door get in,
and the rest won't....
i told the supervisor that this ticketfast method is ridiculous cuz us fans can be duped by duplicates of real tickets cuz its as easy as an email or photocopy, he kinda agreed...
anyway, he was really nice, and he told me that if my tickets get rejected at the door, that theyll have someone there and i can talk to them and go fomr there??
at least, he said, he has acces to the credit card of the guy whole sold me the tickets, and said that if my tickets didnt work i could report the guy and that ticketmaster could at least "maybe" refund me my money up to the price of the orginal sale...
so thats my report,
my plan is to go to the show, right when the doors open im gonna try to go right in,
and i think since i pretty much have an extra ticket, BUT there is some weird energy with it, im just going to give my extra to the first die hard fan i see ticketless outside the venue, and either we both get in, or we will both be chillin outside....
aaron
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:54:06
im not saying matt was trying to spread disinformation, i just personally needed to get a real source for this info, im not going to rely on my one phone call and make some more,
roomloo, i realized right before your post i called ticketmaster vancouver without thinking enough that the tickets in question are for winnipeg, duh!, so im gonna keep investigating this and ill let you guys know what i find out...
btw, the tickets i got off ebay, the auction ended with no one winning, cuz i was trying to do my bid last minute, and was using a canadian shipping address, my bid wouldnt complete cuz the auction required a US address for shipping,
now i was using my buddy's paypal account, so the next day he calls me and says he got an email from the seller saying the paypal transaction didnt work out cuz of our canadian shipping address, but if we wanted could still figure out the transaction, so we did, i paypal'd him the money thru my buddy's account, and he emailed us the ticketfast tix....
part of me just doesnt like the printout thing, i wish i had real paper tickets(part of my paranoia)...
ok so im gonna make some more phone calls, to winnipeg ticketmaster,
and we will see...
aaron
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| roomloo |
Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:40:00
The original post on this thread, from MattB, originated with a Ticketmaster employee. People who answer the phones aren't necessarily going to know anything, and I'm sure some know more than others. Now, the person Matt talked to might have been misinformed as well, but I at least can vouch for Matt as someone who I'd be shocked if he were knowingly spreading misinformation.
One eBay auction for Winnipeg did successfully complete this week, which is a bit of a surprise seeing as no other auctions had successfully completed since Feb. 26. Not that I ever saw an auction ever get cancelled though, so it's possible people just weren't selling in that 2-week period.
Glad to see your tickets are good, though!
By the way, did you talk to someone in the Winnipeg office? |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:07:06
ok, so i want to kill this rumour about ticketmaster cancelling scalped tickets that appear on ebay..
i called ticketmaster and they didnt know ANYTHING about this sort of rumour...
tickets sold to a third party aren't guaranteed,
but unless someone can provide a REAL source for this, it is NOT TRUE that they are cancelling tickets that appear on ebay!!!
so unless your ticket is a FAKE, you are good to go if you got shut out from the original sales and must spend your hard earned dimes on a completely overpriced ticket off ebay....
goddamit i cant afford the ebay prices right now for the commodore nights, and those are the shows, besides winnipeg, that i want to see the most!!! oh well, where theres a will, theres a way!!!
cheers,
aaron
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| Ringo |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 01:51:31
Tickets.com needs to follow Ticket Masters lead and cancel the tix being auctioned for 5 times face value on ebay. |
| roomloo |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 20:15:05
Yeah, I was thinking it would be fairly likely you could get some information off them without divulging which tickets you have. And you can always say you don't have them with you, and maybe they'll drop the subject.
Maybe they'll end up asking for your ticket numbers in order for them to enter them into their computer and see if they're good ... if it were me, I'd give them the numbers. I don't think they could legally deceive you that way, like, tell you they want the numbers so they can look them up, but then use the numbers to cancel the tickets.
Also, at least they will know you're not the original scalper trying to see if his tickets are good ... assuming they have caller ID. But I'm sure there are other ways to prove you're not calling from the UK. |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 18:06:06
well i gues i could call ticketmaster, but seriously, what am i supposed to say???
if they are against scalped tickets, i wasnt thinking it was a good idea to call them and say i bought tickets off ebay, but i guess if i didnt say which show or seats, i could just get some general info...
i guess ill give it a try....
thanx, aaron
aaron
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| roomloo |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 09:45:26
Have you called Ticketmaster? |
| marbleslinger |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 22:34:41
yeah i got some peg tix on ebay, and i see some of yall posting up about winnipeg ticketmaster cracking down on scalpers and ebay, but does anyone have any real sources for this info or how they are going about it or is this just heresay....some of you guys posted about it like you were sure that there was some "official" crackdown...
so whats the word for us desperados that spent our last dimes on ebay?
aaron
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
| porkbone1 |
Posted - 02/27/2004 : 20:08:46
I'm just wondering how they can possibly put a stop to these auctions, unless they pretend to be bidders and purposefully win the auction -- then throw the hammer down. Supposedly ebay has a policy against breaking local scalping laws, but based on all the numerous other tickets for all the other shows I wonder about this.
Plus, I wonder how effective delaying shipment by 1 week is. If they delayed shipment so you would get your tickets 1 week before the show, THEN maybe I could see a benefit... |
| Shastasheen |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 13:51:02
I bought tickets on ebay for winnipeg at 192.50 american. the scalper hasn't recieved the money from me yet
or the tickets from ticketmonster, but assures me there just trying to scare people. I believe you all a lot more
If his/my 2 tickets are cancelled, I will need to try and get others. No tickets should be these prices scalpers are
getting on eGay. they should all be resold at 30 bucks for the many real fans that didn't have a chance to get em
Let's scalp the scalpers! The Pixies should be the master of there own concert tickets, and not let scalpers buy em
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| audiodr |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 10:38:41
for interest sake - here's what TM wrote to me when I inquired about how they'd enforce this:
Granted, this doesnt' tell us anything that we dont' already know!!
"We are fully aware of ALL the ebay accounts for this event, and they will be
resolved in swift and fair matter.
Because of the high demand for this event, there has been a delay in all
online/mailed accounts.Anyone who bought their tickets online and/or via the Call Centres, have had their orders held back for further verification and authorisation."
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| Perk |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 22:34:24
Dave
Can you call TM and get a transcript about this ?
You are the press for the Pixies and FB on the internet !
Call CT and have him get it for you !
Don't sweat the petty things
and don't pet the sweaty things |
| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 20:26:28
One of the promoters has told me there are no plans for a second show.
Looks like this is true about TM tho...very cool.
 Join the Cult of the Flying Pigxies - I'm A Believer! |
| The New Bolero |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 18:33:45
The codes woulda been nice on Saturday morning. How stupid are they over at Ticketmaster? Did they think that the disclaimer about cancelling auctioned tickets by itself would keep the scalpers away? They're inept. |
| porkbone1 |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 18:22:31
quote:
Originally posted by Perk
Ticketmaster.ca has changed the web page to a code system today.
I guess to stop bots from getting tickets for scalpers.
Gee thanks Ticketmaster, good timing! |
| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 13:33:41
Cool..keep me posted on this!
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| Perk |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 13:07:09
Ticketmaster.ca has changed the web page to a code
system today.
I guess to stop bots from getting tickets for scalpers.
Don't sweat the petty things
and don't pet the sweaty things |
| mattb |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 09:46:00
quote:
Originally posted by kromkamp
What do you mean? They are playing Regina the next night....
I'm just repeating what he said. I thought that too when I was on the phone with him and he said no they're don't have anything booked. Whether he got confused and meant the day before (which I hope not) or another day I don't know.
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| roomloo |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 09:11:10
Good point, Benji. If the motivation is their concern for there being enough tickets to go around, why not just add dates in Boston, Chicago, and Atlanta... |
| offerw |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 09:03:19
Great to hear the companies are trying to fight the eBay touts/ scalpers. I will feel sorry for guys who had to resort to eBay and then find out those tickets are cancelled. Maybe the promotors should revoke the eBay seller's tix and then offer them at face value to the buyers! |
| benji |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 09:02:08
i don't think they'll be adding any more shows for the warm-up tour.
why would they?
they have so much demand they could add shows everywhere and anywhere.
i just don't think they will.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank / I think that man deserves a DB!" |
| roomloo |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 08:56:42
I've already posted this in the Winnipeg thread, but let's all hope and pray they didn't really mean they'd add a show the night BEFORE. Because if the rumor is true, obviously it couldn't be the night after... |
| kromkamp |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 08:20:11
What do you mean? They are playing Regina the next night.... |
| benji |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 07:57:37
i too don't see how adding an extra 1c will help them do this, but that hardly matters.
i applaud them for looking at stopping ebay touts, and i think the promotors for the Brixton shows are doing something very similar over here in the UK.
while i doubt it will work 80% of the time, atleast they attempting to combat it.
added: the Brixton promotors said that they were just cross-checking the email address used in the ticket purchase with the email address supplied to ebay...this isn't ideal cause it would be dead easy to avoid being caught.
but lets hope they catch that tout who was posting here on the forum...fuckwit.
"I joined the Cult of Frank / I think that man deserves a DB!" |
| mattb |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 07:54:47
He didn't go into too much detail how it's being done but I'd imagine that like I mentioned early on in the Winnipeg thread they're going by the information like the person's name and address they have on file with ebay and cross checkign that with ticketmaster information. I'm sure that if they cancel tickets that the buyers from ebay will be somehow compensated. The seller will probably be forced to refund the money. With papyapl I know that you can easily get a refund for your purchase if you don't get the item you won off an auction.
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| roomloo |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 07:49:59
That's pretty cool Matt ... however, maybe it's too early in the morning for this to get through my thick head, but how does delaying / changing the charge amount help them in cross-checking with eBay auctions? I'd love it if they could have all those tickets cancelled, but I still wonder how they can match an auction with an actual ticket unless the seller discloses the actual seat number
And the other thing is ... who gets screwed when tickets are cancelled? If someone has paid a scalper $400, are they out that $400, or at least unable to go to the concert? |
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