| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 01:48:35
My Terrible Ways is out. So sad for this great song. I want a Schwarma version of it, dammit!
01 In The Time Of My Ruin
02 Down To You
03 Highway To Lowdown
04 Kiss My Ring
05 My Terrible Ways
06 Fitzgerald
07 Elijah
08 It's Just Not Your Moment
09 The Real El Rey
10 Where The Wind Is Going
11 Holland Town
12 Sad Old World
13 Don't Cry That Way
14 Fare Thee Well
Denis
|
| 35 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/11/2006 : 00:08:35
Round closed.
Denis
|
| a guy in a rover |
Posted - 09/10/2006 : 15:53:03
Highway To Lowdown
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
|
| Born to Lose |
Posted - 09/10/2006 : 06:49:58
Holland Town, man! |
| pixiestu |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 10:27:44
The Real El Ray. Probably the most boring Frank Black song ever in my opinion.
Well, maybe not, but still it's pretty dull.
"The arc of triumph" |
| edbanky |
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 10:19:55
Sad Old World
"The man has led us to his current sound like a basket of eggs."
ScottP |
| toeknee |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 14:31:59
Where The Wind Is Going |
| Erebus |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 13:33:10
Where The Wind Is Going
|
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 12:43:04
Wow, exact same intro for The Real El Rey and When the Paint, except for the drum sound being a little more crisp in the former. Good call, D-man.
Where the Wind and Kiss My Ring both start with drum fills but they are at least different fills. I don't know how big a fan I am of leading off with a drum fill...
 "Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 11:22:29
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
and as usual I agree with everything the frog man says.
And vice-versa, needless to say.
-----
Blackolero le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 10:33:23
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
As much as I like all the Honeycomb leftovers individually, I don't think they should have been on this album. If I wanted to listen to a sore thumb, I'd... well, I don't know what I'd do but you get the point.
Eavesdrop on an unsuccessful hitchhiker?
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
| coastline |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 09:15:56
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
quote:
Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai
ALSO, Black Rider II is the worst album-ender imo.
::Gasp:: Even though it isn't awesome, it's still a Tom Waits cover and kind of interesting in a weird, quirky way. "Fare Thee Well" is just this boring traditional song that repeats over and over and doesn't do anything interesting musically. As my tab of it says: "Same chord progression used the whole song." Maybe I'm being harsh, but this song should either not have been on this album, or they should have ended with something more memorable. I think the last song on an album is its chance to shine and go out with a bang. Fare Thee Well doesn't do either. It's like I'd rather listen to the first song again instead of end with Fare Thee Well.
I never liked Black Rider until I heard the Bremen bootleg (July 4, 2003), where he nearly screams the last part of the song. When I heard that, I listened to it as loudly as I stand, and ten times in a row. I also bought the Tom Waits version on iTunes this morning (because I didn't know until today that it was his song), and his is really good, too. But I don't think FB&tC did too great a job on it on the album versions. Too tame, really.
 Shiny! |
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 08:53:21
As much as I like all the Honeycomb leftovers individually, I don't think they should have been on this album. If I wanted to listen to a sore thumb, I'd... well, I don't know what I'd do but you get the point.
I wish they would have re-recorded them or overdubbed new tracks somewhere along the way. The drums sound too weak and the transition from Down to You to Highway to Lowdown makes me want to turn up my Yamaha receiver 6 decibels. It's like when you make a mix tape and one song is too loud and the next song sounds low in comparison so you have to crank it. |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 08:11:36
As are the intros for "Where the Wind Is Going" and "Kiss My Ring" - at least the very beginning of each...
To me, that is the fault of the producer/arranger - there are many songs that have the same chord progression that sound different. Just not these...
-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 08:06:31
Derek's right. Both intros are exactly identical. Eerie...
Anyway. All this discussion made me listen to the song at least a dozen times today, so I have to thank you for that. Our opinions differ hugely on this record (IJNYM, nails on a chalkboard? nuts!), but once you lay off the booze you'll get what I mean.
Denis
|
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 07:52:34
Heh, alright Derek, I'll listen to the beginnings of those two back-to-back.
I don't see how you can say that it's the 'only' one that FB really got into; I can't imagine being grabbed in the gut by this. The singing is good, I'll grant you, and even better than other songs on the record, but nothing attention (or gut) grabbing. The line about "Manchester, England" for example, feels really forced and unnatural, however cool a city and its inhabitants.
I'm not saying the song is awful by any stretch, but like others on the record it seems to have its problems. There's nothing in there that grabs me one way or the other I guess, and as usual I agree with everything the frog man says.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 00:36:39
Soporific? My, it's the exact opposite. It's the only song from the whole album that grabs me by the guts. The only one where Frank actually puts his heart in his singing, the only one that makes me shiver when listening to it. Add some stellar musicianship (the bass and drums are splendid and Dave is a great as ever on pedal steel), wonderful chord progression AND a reference to Bohemia, and you got the best song of the bunch, period.
Denis
|
| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 09/07/2006 : 00:16:37
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
The Real El Rey (please, someone tell me what is so good about this song)
Uh... let's see. It has a nice title. Plus, it's a great soporific. Isn't that enough?
-----
Blackolero le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français |
| vilainde |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 23:56:46
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
The Real El Rey (please, someone tell me what is so good about this song)
Mmmh, let's see... everything?
Denis
|
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 22:16:56
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
The Real El Rey is pretty good, but I think I agree with Dean about wanting to know what is so good about it. And seriously, does it not have the SAME EXACT INTRO as "When the Paint Grows Darker Still"? Please go compare the two and you will see.
Geez you're right, those intros are the same. Same amount of drum beats, then an A minor chord on the keys. |
| josephmichael |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 22:10:59
The Real El Ray's true charm kicks in after the opening verse (once you get to "I'm going back to Manchester..."). It really gets good after that, so I'm all for it sticking around for several more rounds.
Too bad about Down to You <sob> |
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 21:52:46
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
I don't understand booting Down to You
Me neither. It's a nice, short song. Probably in my top 5 of this disc.
The Real El Rey is pretty good, but I think I agree with Dean about wanting to know what is so good about it. And seriously, does it not have the SAME EXACT INTRO as "When the Paint Grows Darker Still"? Please go compare the two and you will see. |
| josephmichael |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 20:37:07
where the wind
|
| coastline |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 19:44:54
Fare thee well, Fare Thee Well.
Look, a pony! |
| ATBNG |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 19:20:41
Fare Thee Well. |
| Don Eduardo |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 18:43:11
Sad Old world |
| mikaelp75 |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 17:40:22
Although the guitar in the (I think) second verse is very nice, Highway To Lowdown. |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 16:04:05
Sad Old World has a great chorus although the verses are a little dull. Down To You has neither.
I guess my vote this time goes for Where The Wind, but it's getting tough. There's a bunch of them that could equally go off like Don't Cry that Way, Kiss My Ring, The Real El Rey (please, someone tell me what is so good about this song), and maybe Holland Town.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
| darwin |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 15:51:24
Sad Old World
I don't understand booting Down to You |
| ProverbialCereal |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 14:55:49
quote:
Originally posted by Suicide_Samurai
ALSO, Black Rider II is the worst album-ender imo.
::Gasp:: Even though it isn't awesome, it's still a Tom Waits cover and kind of interesting in a weird, quirky way. "Fare Thee Well" is just this boring traditional song that repeats over and over and doesn't do anything interesting musically. As my tab of it says: "Same chord progression used the whole song." Maybe I'm being harsh, but this song should either not have been on this album, or they should have ended with something more memorable. I think the last song on an album is its chance to shine and go out with a bang. Fare Thee Well doesn't do either. It's like I'd rather listen to the first song again instead of end with Fare Thee Well. |
| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 13:36:09
Moment, I guess.
 Vote Biscuitdoughhead For Mayor!!!!! |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 13:29:33
Oops, have to listen again. Glad My Terrible Ways went.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
| Suicide_Samurai |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 13:05:26
Holland Town. I don't see it going in this round, but it really is no fun for me to keep voting for the same song in every round, so can we please take it out in the next round just for the sake of my enjoyment. Thank you in advance.
Also, IJNYM is brilliant musically; you can't call it a bad song based on so called "cheesy" vocals in the chorus.
ALSO, Black Rider II is the worst album-ender imo. |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 12:42:06
damage! Where the wind is going!
---------------------------
God save the Noisies |
| The Holiday Son |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 12:23:56
Sad Old World |
| NimrodsSon |
Posted - 09/06/2006 : 12:15:58
Where the Wind is Blowing.
¡Viva los Católicos! |
