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mike Posted - 04/13/2004 : 01:10:53
hi, dont know if anybody has shared the same thoughts: i have been drinking on weekend with my girlfriend in a russian cafe. after maybe the 10 th wodka she said something very powerful: "you wanna know now the real reason why the pixies will never been that succesfull like nirvana or anybody else? its because frank black got no sex-appeal!! thats it!! a fucked up kurt cobein with his annoying suicide-attitude got somthing sexy, like morrison or hendrix and every single THE band this days plays with this drug-the-end-is-near-style...and have a charming leadsinger...."

sorry for my english i am still drunken and cant stop thinking what would the pixies like if frank looks like casablancas and kim deal like hole... and... if it would be a better world...
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Spiral~Daisy Posted - 04/19/2004 : 14:39:12
oh and a friend of mine asks how iggy got so far if this is the case? lol
Spiral~Daisy Posted - 04/19/2004 : 06:07:55
Sex appeal ruins bands I think. People go to see the band and not hear them.

I agree with daisy as well, its about how the product is marketed.
klikger Posted - 04/18/2004 : 22:10:08
I'll second that! Can't wait to see them again.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/18/2004 : 12:42:58
From what we're hearing so far, that is not happening.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
hec Posted - 04/18/2004 : 12:29:58
i jusdt hope with the reunion they don't wreck what they have and go the way of rancid..hec
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/18/2004 : 12:14:49
quote:
Originally posted by klikger

Definitely not, my friend. The only reason I said alleged suicide attempts is because I'm a subscriber to Tom Grant's theories. I was borderline obsessed with Kurt and Nirvana when I was a teenager, and I still have all respect for him. I was just trying to say that Frank didn't have as visible as problems as Kurt Cobain. And I know that he didn't chose those problems nor exploit them for personal gain. He was an introvert.



I knew you weren't suggesting it. I got the impression that others were.

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
Daisy Girl Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:14:55
Congratulations Mike, looks like you and MTV think alike. Read the wrote the review of the Minneapolis show.

Really, it's the marketing...it's all about marketing It's not about the product because the product ROCKS!!!!
ShakeyShake Posted - 04/18/2004 : 09:20:15
Franks got no sex appeal?id lvoe to fuck him


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
Domestiques Posted - 04/17/2004 : 22:00:42
the world wouldnt listen and now it appears the entire population was a fan.

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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
punji Posted - 04/17/2004 : 14:35:22
"but the copy-cat bands are the ones that hit it big."

the pixies totaly laid the ground work for so many bands. their like the velvet underground becuase, they might not have selled alot of records. but the impact they had on so many other bands is immeasurable.

i am king shit of fuck mountain, why would you fuck with me? -god
Mr.fadedglory Posted - 04/17/2004 : 14:08:54
i guess the pixies didn't get any far because the world wasn't ready for their music

today your love/tomorrow the world
TameReg Posted - 04/16/2004 : 14:13:20
They were all too normal looking for one thing. Also, I think they may have broken up right before fame would have hit. I mean, they had some mega exposure on the U2 tour, but broke up right afterwords. And then Pixie clone bands had some success. It seems like often the seminal bands have fame elude them, but the copy-cat bands are the ones that hit it big.
VoVat Posted - 04/14/2004 : 18:34:43
You might have something there, mike, but that just seems to further demonstrate how shallow the general public is.



Join the Culf of Buttoms / Correctly spelled cults are so passé.
klikger Posted - 04/14/2004 : 13:08:03
Definitely not, my friend. The only reason I said alleged suicide attempts is because I'm a subscriber to Tom Grant's theories. I was borderline obsessed with Kurt and Nirvana when I was a teenager, and I still have all respect for him. I was just trying to say that Frank didn't have as visible as problems as Kurt Cobain. And I know that he didn't chose those problems nor exploit them for personal gain. He was an introvert.
Homers_pet_monkey Posted - 04/14/2004 : 10:04:39
I hope nobody here believes that Cobain was the way he was for media attention!!!

Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
klikger Posted - 04/14/2004 : 04:20:19
I think Frank is very attractive. I think the real reason is because they kept playing what they wanted to play and it was ahead of their time. Frank didn't write "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and he didn't have a media-magnet lifestyle like heroin addiction, stomach problems, and alleged suicide attempts. I agree that I like it better this way, because it makes them seem more personal to me. I guess that's selfish, but I would've like to see them make it REAL big, too. I'm tired.
punji Posted - 04/13/2004 : 11:52:51
i don't think the world was ready for what the pixies where doing, i mean hair metal was the shit at the time.

i am king shit of fuck mountain, why would you fuck with me? -god
brickisred Posted - 04/13/2004 : 11:11:42

Hi,

I think there were several reasons why the Pixies did not get big in the US:
1) No heavy metal -related sound. They were post-punk while mainstream America was still not into punk.
2) No "cool" video (compare to Smells Like Teen Spirit)
3) No sexy face for the band leader
4) No other message than "listen to this".
5) UK label

Brickisred
the tolerant Posted - 04/13/2004 : 10:28:08
hey lookin back i'm glad the pixies were never the biggest band in the world, theyre way too special and uber good for that title.
and it makes them even more that sacred to me.

and franks sex appeal only relates i think to the grrls and to the gay audience. i'm neither so it never entered the equation. and to be frank (i wish) i can say my music collection isnt built on how sexy or appealing the members of the bands are to me.

its about the music.
punji Posted - 04/13/2004 : 10:08:50
kim deal is sexy and bush dose blow.



i am king shit of fuck mountain, why would you fuck with me? -god
CoolHandDuke Posted - 04/13/2004 : 09:52:45
I can't stand Bush.

-Duke
lonely persuader Posted - 04/13/2004 : 09:19:18
are Bush actually big in the US or something?
i think everyone knows they're rubbish
mrgrieves1971 Posted - 04/13/2004 : 07:10:44
Case in point: Bush.
bumblebeeboy2 Posted - 04/13/2004 : 05:20:44
i've heard that argument before, it holds some weight... although the pixies didn't do much promo, partly because they were on 4ad, partly because they didn't want to (i believe)... they just weren't a commericial band... and kudos to them!



The Shrine of the Sea Monkey!
hibster Posted - 04/13/2004 : 05:16:28
they were before their time imho.

are they after it now though? that's the real issue.

this is why events unerve me
billgoodman Posted - 04/13/2004 : 02:05:41
kim had sex appeal, so I don't know. I often think it's because frank was a bit large, but I still think frank looks cute sometimes. The pixies certainly had an image, not a styled one, but they had. I think they were too cool to be big



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