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| koabac |
Posted - 01/22/2014 : 19:48:06
Sorry, gotta rant here for a second...
I don't know about you guys, but I think the reaction to the new Pixies material has been bizarre. From the "official" critical reaction to the blogs, the opinions go from "this is great!" to the meanest, most hostile contempt. I've actually, literally seen each and every song off both EP's be called the "best" and also the "worst" of the new stuff by different people. I've seen people who love it call people who hate it "deaf nostalgia idiots" and people who hate it call people who love it the exact same thing. I don't remember ever seeing this kind of polarized reaction to any music - and it's not even ONLY polarized - there's every reaction in between, too.
Most people who don't like the new music also seem to compare it to Black Francis/Frank Black's solo career as if that automatically dismisses it as bad. To me, this clearly means they never really listened or gave a chance to his solo career. Why is there such hostility towards Black Francis, anyway? Do people really not see that if you're a Pixies fan, you're a fan of Black Francis songs sung by Black Francis? That's, like, 98% what the Pixies were - and if you REALLY think Kim Deal makes or breaks Pixies music, then you must not love "Bossanova" or "Trompe Le Monde" because the only way you can really tell she's there is if you read the liner notes and it says she's the bass player. After their beloved Pixies broke up, the exact same guy who was the creative force behind the Pixies just continued on making great album after album. Honestly, I think "Cult of Ray" is a great skate-punk album. "Honeycomb" is a great alt. country album. He explored a huge range of styles and really learned his craft, all the while keeping his unique point of view and voice as a songwriter. What's not to love? Also, for those who only want to hear "Pixies-style" songs from him, there's easily 4 or 5 ALBUMS worth of "Pixies-Style" songs scattered throughout his solo career that are as good as anything the Pixies ever did.
I, personally, love the new Pixies material and have followed and loved Black Francis since Surfa Rosa, all through his solo career, up to the present and have been blown away by the breadth, scope, consistency, brilliance and courage of his work. Some people are actually accusing Black Francis of being CAREERIST as if he is cynically raping his fans with this new music as some kind of "money grab." Careerist?!! Black Francis?!! Seriously? I couldn't think of an artist who could care less what audiences and critics expect from him and if he had wanted to pander to audiences and make money, he wouldn't have made virtually ANY of the career/creative choices he has ever made. It's hard to think of any artist who has MORE integrity than Black Francis. The cynical money-grab move would be to keep playing the old, safe stuff and not risk everything by releasing new music - like Kim Deal wanted. Being over cautious about one's "legacy" is so lame and anti-Pixies anyone who suggest it should be embarrassed. What great creative artist ever kept pumping out the same kinda thing over and over without changing their style, risking everything, and following their muse wherever it led them? Dylan, the Beatles, Elvis Costello, David Bowie, Tom Waits, Nick Cave - on and on - the BEST artists know it's hard to hit a moving target and explore their art and craft, critics and audiences be damned. Yet here we are 40 years after Dylan went electric, shouting "Judas" at Black Francis for not recreating "Surfer Rosa" by the numbers. Please understand, I don't dislike Kim Deal in anyway, I just think she's given WAY too much credit. The Pixies are to the Breeders what Nirvana was to the Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl is a great songwriter and musician, but Kurt Cobain was from another planet - like Black Francis.
The huge swing in opinion suggests to me that people aren't being really subjective about the new music, itself, and have made up their minds before they ever heard it. That could also be true for some people who love it, although, I think it's more likely true of people who hate it with so much hostility. If some of them were told Kim Deal WAS playing on the new tracks, I honestly believe a lot of people would have liked the same songs they hate because she's not on them. I swear I could surgically remove 8 certain songs out of the Pixies early music and, if no one had heard them before, slap them on two EP's and release them now and everyone would be saying the same things about THEM. At the same time, if you slipped a few of these new songs into their old albums and made others B-Sides, these same people would be saying how those songs are some of the Pixies best stuff. A song like "What Goes Boom" could have easily been on "Trompe Le Monde" and, imo, it's better than "Space (I Believe In)." I've listened to all the new songs on shuffle mixed in with the old Pixies songs and, seriously, they fit right in pretty seamlessly.
Don't get me wrong - I DO understand some of the criticism of the new material. Honestly, I think the real problem is the production. For some reason, Gil Norton seems to have squashed the songs with compression, squeezing some of the life out of them. And, yeah, sure, they do lack a bit of the old spontaneous, loose insanity of some of their earlier work, but so did much of "Trompe." None of their albums sound like one another and even the songwriting, from album to album, seems to have different approaches. The thing is, virtually all these Pixies "signature" song elements can be found throughout the new songs, as well (not to mention throughout Black's solo work). There ARE time signature and dynamic shifts, there ARE screams, growls and whispers, there ARE Santiago's amazing counterintuitive melodic and harmonic screeches, gurgles and blasts, there ARE twisted lyrics about sex and aliens. What defines the Pixies' "sound" that's missing? The songs may be a little "straighter" than, say, "Broken Face" or "Hey," but a lot of their songs are pretty straight ahead musically like "Wave of Mutilation" or "Letter To Memphis."
Finally, I wish Kim Deal (and maybe the others, as well) had the balls to record the songs Black Francis first offered them in 2006 that ended up on scattered on "Bluefinger," "Svn Fngrs" and "Christmass" (great albums all of them) because those would have made fantastic Pixies songs that I think may have been more satisfying to the people mentally resisting these newer songs (and refusing to listen to the solo albums, so they missed them). In interviews, Black Francis, himself, seems to suggest even he was a little uptight about finally writing songs specifically for the Pixies now, as opposed to that first explosion of creative inspiration back in 2006. "Indie Cindy" apparently is about this very issue. I have no doubt that as he relaxes into it, the new stuff will keep getting better and better - and it's great already. The new songs are certainly getting a triumphant reaction live from what I've read.
Anyway, thanks so much for letting me rant. I needed to bitch about this because it's been bugging me. I am alone in these feelings? What do you guys think? |
| 35 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| IBreed |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 10:44:36
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by Stevio10
she did 5 songs in the Wales session before leaving from what BF says in an interview.
Makes me think Another Toe was item no. 6 on the list. A toe too far? I can't see Kim summoning any enthusiasm at learning that one.
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yeah, i have no idea what kim likes or doesn't like, but based on the music she turns out i can't see her getting excited about another toe. |
| simibaby |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 10:32:07
Agree, Stevio. Just envisioned her sweet voice in the bkground on that Good catch! |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 02/02/2014 : 05:52:44
Another Toe with Kim vocals (main or backing) would have been interesting! |
| trobrianders |
Posted - 02/01/2014 : 21:48:01
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10
she did 5 songs in the Wales session before leaving from what BF says in an interview.
Makes me think Another Toe was item no. 6 on the list. A toe too far? I can't see Kim summoning any enthusiasm at learning that one.
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| Stevio10 |
Posted - 01/31/2014 : 21:23:29
she did 5 songs in the Wales session before leaving from what BF says in an interview. |
| Classic Masher |
Posted - 01/31/2014 : 15:08:19
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Originally posted by IBreed
the story is kim wanted to do 3-4 or whatever songs. a handful.
Oh, ok. I never heard this. Considering she takes years to write and record a new record for her own band, I guess this shouldn't surprise me. Speaking of which, I wish she'd record with the classic Breeders line-up again...
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| IBreed |
Posted - 01/31/2014 : 14:27:30
the story is kim wanted to do 3-4 or whatever songs. a handful. |
| Classic Masher |
Posted - 01/30/2014 : 16:33:11
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Originally posted by picpic
I think the Pixies are 3/4 Frank, 1/4 Joey. Even if I like Dave & Kim very much, they definitely bring something special to Frank/Joey music.
I'm not surprised that Kim hated Bossanova. This record is so... Charles... (& Joey for the surf thing) -and we probably all like it because of that-.
Same for EP1/EP2. The first studio picture we saw last year were Frank/Joey in a studio. I'm not surprised that Kim didn't like the songs. That's just not her taste. And I can understand that. She made a respectable decision by leaving & letting the others do their stuff.
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I would agree that the songs aren't Kim's style. It's an open secret that Kim always preferred Come On Pilgrim-Doolittle era songs. However, she did hear the demoes and agree to play them. So even though Kim isn't in the band anymore I think she did approve of them. I think she left because she just likes being her own boss and who doesn't. Why be a bassist/back-up singer in a band when you can be the lead singer/guitarist in your OWN band? I think a female voice is missing on some of the EP1 and EP2 songs but I don't think KD would have done any better playing bass than Ding Archer.
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| picpic |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 23:11:38
I think the Pixies are 3/4 Frank, 1/4 Joey. Even if I like Dave & Kim very much, they definitely bring something special to Frank/Joey music.
I'm not surprised that Kim hated Bossanova. This record is so... Charles... (& Joey for the surf thing) -and we probably all like it because of that-.
Same for EP1/EP2. The first studio picture we saw last year were Frank/Joey in a studio. I'm not surprised that Kim didn't like the songs. That's just not her taste. And I can understand that. She made a respectable decision by leaving & letting the others do their stuff.
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| Sprite |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 22:49:59
That's a nice story, and good counterbalance to some of the negativity Kim gets around here sometimes. |
| koabac |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 12:38:07
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Thats really interesting, didnt know she was into the trompe sound. All you ever hear reported of that era is how BF supposedly phased her out but I guess music media even then was sensationalist.
How did you come to have dinner with Kim Deal, if I may ask?
Hey Stevio - Kim was dating (maybe engaged at that point) a writer for Spin magazine and "Guided By Voices" member, Jim Greer, who was a family friend through a relative, who was also a writer for Spin. Jim and Kim were over at my relative's place in Los Angeles at the start of the "Trompe" sessions when my girlfriend at the time, and I, who were also in a band together (and worshipped the Pixies), stopped by and were, of course, stunned to find Kim Deal sitting there. We all had dinner and Kim seriously could NOT have been nicer and cooler (and was, on a side note, absolutely stunningly beautiful in real life- just glowing) and had no problem talking about the Pixies and "Charles" and their various issues. I sensed no animosity from her about the band, but she definitely thought "Bossanova" was a step in the wrong direction. It was clear, however, that she was completely at the mercy of Black Francis' creative whims, which shows that her creative input was minimal, therefore my earlier point about her being given way too much credit for what made the Pixies, the Pixies. I think she's enormously talented, however. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 09:46:57
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Originally posted by koabac
He may have also been referring to the fact he came into both those sessions with very few completed songs, and everyone was waiting around, pressuring him to finish lyrics. They were forced to go back to some older songs and throw in some covers, etc. He also admits he was smoking a bit too many funny cigarettes to be as focused as he would have liked to have been. I imagine this is why HE thinks he could have done better, but, like R.E.M.'s "Lifes Rich Pageant," which was besieged with the same issues, the results were spectacular to the audience.
I remember when they were starting to record "Trompe," I had dinner with Kim Deal and she was ragging on "Bossanova" because she thought it didn't "rock" enough, but was VERY pleased with the new stuff they were doing for what became "Trompe" because it was going back to what they did best. I argued that "Bossanova" was brilliant and just different than the other stuff, but that they had created a sound unlike anything I had ever heard that still felt "Pixies," but in a totally original way. It became clear that the troubled, frustrating process of creating their albums really fed into what they felt about the results. Many times an artist is the worst judge of their own work.
Thats really interesting, didnt know she was into the trompe sound. All you ever hear reported of that era is how BF supposedly phased her out but I guess music media even then was sensationalist.
How did you come to have dinner with Kim Deal, if I may ask? |
| Jason |
Posted - 01/28/2014 : 07:07:42
My impression of the first comments on the official Facebook page when the Pixies post a video for one of the new songs:
"Come to Beijing!"
"Love this song!"
"This is really bad!"
"Is Kim still in the band?"
"Great song."
"Terrible song."
"Pixies, come to Moscow!"
"Awesome song."
"Really bad song."
"Seeing you guys in Atlanta! Will Kim be there?"
"Great new song."
"Lousy new song. What happened?"
"No Kim, no deal."
"This is a great song!"
"Yuck! Bad song!"
"Pixies, please come to Egypt!" |
| sdon |
Posted - 01/27/2014 : 09:02:35
Maybe over-dressed
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| picpic |
Posted - 01/27/2014 : 01:04:05
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Originally posted by sdon
Bizarrely, I find TOTY a bit fat,as FB was becoming then, whereas Trompe is still lean and 'fit')
Ha ha !
Thanks for the laugh.
How would you define EP1 / EP2 ? Deflated ? 
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| bebio |
Posted - 01/26/2014 : 14:36:12
All I have to say is: it's 1986 all over again. |
| sdon |
Posted - 01/26/2014 : 09:13:56
Trompe and Surfer are also my favorites too!
Trompe is very creative and original (as Bowie said), and more interesting to me than TOTY (which has some great 'hits', but whose sound I don't really like, too "treble". Bizarrely, I find TOTY a bit fat,as FB was becoming then, whereas Trompe is still lean and 'fit')
Bossanova and Trompe are so great because of the lyrics for sure and the creative leap made by Joey.
Someone said that Kim Deal's bass on these is undermixed, I disagree, just listen to Is She Weird, The Happening, or Subbacultcha.
Anyway, great to see that Pixies are regarded as a current, vital band, and ready to release tons of new tracks
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| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 01/26/2014 : 07:48:47
Trompe and Surfer are my favorites but I also really love Bossnova too. The Happening and All Over The World are two amazing songs and I enjoy the mix of rockers and more lush recordings; Havalina is so soothing. |
| koabac |
Posted - 01/26/2014 : 07:35:02
He may have also been referring to the fact he came into both those sessions with very few completed songs, and everyone was waiting around, pressuring him to finish lyrics. They were forced to go back to some older songs and throw in some covers, etc. He also admits he was smoking a bit too many funny cigarettes to be as focused as he would have liked to have been. I imagine this is why HE thinks he could have done better, but, like R.E.M.'s "Lifes Rich Pageant," which was besieged with the same issues, the results were spectacular to the audience.
I remember when they were starting to record "Trompe," I had dinner with Kim Deal and she was ragging on "Bossanova" because she thought it didn't "rock" enough, but was VERY pleased with the new stuff they were doing for what became "Trompe" because it was going back to what they did best. I argued that "Bossanova" was brilliant and just different than the other stuff, but that they had created a sound unlike anything I had ever heard that still felt "Pixies," but in a totally original way. It became clear that the troubled, frustrating process of creating their albums really fed into what they felt about the results. Many times an artist is the worst judge of their own work. |
| picpic |
Posted - 01/26/2014 : 05:46:16
Yes, it was that documentary.
95% about the first 3 records, 5% on "Bossanova" & "Trompe le Monde" with comments like "they were really struggling by their standards at that point", blah blah... sorry but I totally disagree. When I hear those two records, I hear Charles creativity taking off in a fantastic blast, not some songwriter struggling and failing to be up to his previous standards... That's why I was a little surprised to hear Charles nearly "giving credit" to those statements. But that's probably the way the documentary was edited that gave me this impression... I haven't re-watched it recently.
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| trobrianders |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 23:34:38
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Originally posted by picpic
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Originally posted by koabac
Yeah, I also get the sense that the general view is that Bossanova and Trompe weren't as strong
Astonishingly, Frank himself said in some documentary (don't remember the name, but it was on youtube) that he wasn't very proud of the songs he wrote for Bossanova / Trompe Le Monde...
I think we all disagree with him on that point...
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Charles didn't say he wasn't proud of them, he said he didn't regret writing them, he just regretted not rewriting them. I can hear that in them. Anyway I take him at his word.
The doc was called "Gouge" btw, it's on their first DVD release along with their best filmed show IMO, also up on youtube.
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| picpic |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 22:25:04
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Originally posted by koabac
Yeah, I also get the sense that the general view is that Bossanova and Trompe weren't as strong
Astonishingly, Frank himself said in some documentary (don't remember the name, but it was on youtube) that he wasn't very proud of the songs he wrote for Bossanova / Trompe Le Monde...
I think we all disagree with him on that point...
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| koabac |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 20:33:49
Yeah, I also get the sense that the general view is that Bossanova and Trompe weren't as strong (although, I tend to agree with BunsenH - and most Pixies fans divide up between Surfer Rosa, Doolittle or Bossanova being their favorites). Personally, I think Teenager Of The Year is stronger than Trompe, but it also seems like the general view is that ALL of the Pixies releases were astonishingly good and it's like ranking your four favorite orgasms - ONE of them HAD to have been the worst of the four, but it's not like you're complaining.
And good point about expectations, Arm Arm Arm - if you were actually paying attention, expecting anything like Doolittle NOW does seem a bit foolish when they abandoned that sound by their very next record. |
| BunsenH |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 17:03:14
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Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm
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Originally posted by koabac
Clearly they're being punished by certain people for simply not releasing music that's exactly like whatever their abstract mental image of what "a good, new Pixies song" should/would/could sound like. "Slightly bland compared to Debaser" is, to them, considered a federal crime, I suppose.
Unless something's changed over the years, it seemed like most reviewers considered Bossanova and particularly Trompe, as lesser Pixies albums while Doolittle remained the peak. I recall reading articles over the years, noting the lack of Kim Deal's prominence on Trompe and how the songwriting was just not as good. Well, by that standard, EP-1 and 2 are just following along this "downward path." Did anyone really think, after more than twenty years, we'd get Twolittle? They didn't do that then, why would they now?
That's true about the general opinion of reviewers, but Bossanova is the best, hands down. |
| Arm Arm Arm |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 16:15:15
quote:
Originally posted by koabac
Clearly they're being punished by certain people for simply not releasing music that's exactly like whatever their abstract mental image of what "a good, new Pixies song" should/would/could sound like. "Slightly bland compared to Debaser" is, to them, considered a federal crime, I suppose.
Unless something's changed over the years, it seemed like most reviewers considered Bossanova and particularly Trompe, as lesser Pixies albums while Doolittle remained the peak. I recall reading articles over the years, noting the lack of Kim Deal's prominence on Trompe and how the songwriting was just not as good. Well, by that standard, EP-1 and 2 are just following along this "downward path." Did anyone really think, after more than twenty years, we'd get Twolittle? They didn't do that then, why would they now?
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| natenate101 |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 14:56:16
I definitely thing the response would be more kind if Kim Deal was still in Pixies. Without her, the media can and huge Kim fans are free to take cheap shots at BF. It's silly. |
| koabac |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 13:10:02
Good point, Oldmanoty. At least people are talking about the Pixies in a current, what they're up to now, context instead of this Thing frozen in amber between 1987 and 1993. I have a hard time thinking of any other reunited or continuing, for that matter, band over 25 years old that people would get this worked up over. Clearly they're being punished by certain people for simply not releasing music that's exactly like whatever their abstract mental image of what "a good, new Pixies song" should/would/could sound like. "Slightly bland compared to Debaser" is, to them, considered a federal crime, I suppose. Imagine what the reaction would have been if the new stuff WAS actually as bad as Pitchfork claimed? |
| OLDMANOTY |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 08:26:19
I'm trying to refrain from reading comments under Pixies articles now. The vitriol borders on psychotic with some of them, and often literally make no sense at all. Still, at least it's provoked a reaction of some kind, not the almost universal shrug that greeted FB solo. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 07:23:59
I totally agree koabac :)
The vitriol is not called for especially in the media or reviews.
The pitchfork review is not what I would call music journalism - there is nothing that separates that guys review from any other guy on the street which is pretty annoying as being in such a position helps shape musical opinion.
The reasononing for his dismissive review (apparently, according to another reviewer at Pitchfork) is because he holds the pixies so close to him and - presumebly - that he cannot objectively review what he is listening to.
So yeah I don't see him as a beautiful snowflake either (that phrase is pretty awful! Im sorry I borrowed it from Fight Club!).
I dont know if my post had a point or not, but I guess when the pixies are involved it is very hard to be objective as they mean so much to so many.
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| velvety |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 06:58:11
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| koabac |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 06:28:42
VERY interesting thoughts. tedbra - I hadn't considered the AGE of the listener, therefore, WHEN they got into the Pixies, may have something to do with it. The post-Pixies/post-Nirvana world was very different than the musical landscape WHEN the Pixies first emerged. The Pixies have been romanticized a bit over the years, kinda like the Beatles, where the ex-Beatles have always struggled against the Legend. It never seemed to matter to people that it's the exact same guys now giving their audience 4 albums of "Beatles songs" individually, as opposed to where they were STILL writing individually (as well as RECORDING individually towards the end) and then combining their work on only 1 album. I guess an argument could be made that without the group dynamic, they weren't pushed to do their best work, but, from what I've read, they were still all feeling competitive with one another as solo artists.
Stevio - while I agree in spirit with the "unique and beautiful snowflake" idea, I guess what was at the heart of my rant was the mean-spirited hatred and lack of personal respect being thrown at Black Francis and the remaining Pixies. Sure Black Francis shrugs it all off, but clearly he had cared enough that people like his new Pixies stuff that he wrote "Indie Cindy" (I beg for you to carry me" is a far cry from "Big woop-dee-doo") and Joey Santiago half-jokiingly challenged the Pitchfork critic to an alley fight. Actively and unreasonably discouraging people from listening to and enjoying something based on what appears to be a knee-jerk, reflexive reaction is irresponsible. Obviously the new Pixies material isn't the worst music ever released as they, and others, would have people believe. There is clearly something else going on here. I mean, surely, everyone's entitled to their own opinion - that's what makes life interesting - so, I suppose I'm just exploring what's interesting to me about those different opinions, more than condemning anyone for having them. No one should police other people's subjective tastes, but if someone's going to suggest I'm an uncool idiot for liking this stuff, even though I don't care because I know they're being silly, I think showing the other side of the argument is reasonable if it prevents even one person from from supporting the Pixies on this leg of their journey. As someone who also feeds his family through creative work, I kinda take it personally that someone I respect who has given me so much great, inspiring music should get sucker-punched like that. The Pitchfork guy is NOT a "beautiful snowflake" to me. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 01/25/2014 : 01:46:38
I agree with all your points koabac and had the same thoughts and frustrations.
After a lot of debating, thinking and probable over-analysis I have come to the conclusion that every Pixies fan is a unique and beautiful snowflake.
Because of the pixies' quality of music and persona pulls music lovers of multiple genres they have a fanbase of very diverse demographics.
What makes the Pixies special is different for me than it will be for others.
Rather than getting into debates and accusations of not listening to something correctly, it is important to remember that anyone who likes the pixies has probably found them through having a good taste in music and their opinions are as valid as anyone elses no matter how bizarre or deranged they may seem.
What is fascinating though is how people hold the pixies so closely and dearly to themselves, that to me is why there is this steep contrast in opinion and review scores.
The reviews, rants, debates and what not say more about the person than it does about the band.
I feel that had these EP's been released in 2005 or 2006 they would be hailed as masterpieces by the music media atleast. On the topic of the sound compression, I think it has been overemphasised to fill the gaps so that the lack of Kim Deal backing vocals are not noticed, but that is just my opinion.
If the pixies belong - or have a duty to - anyone or anything, it would probably be something intangible such as the global domination of the planet of sound, certainly not any accountability to us.
Not a band I like but I like this line from Oasis, quite suitable "Please don't put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band who will throw it all away". |
| simibaby |
Posted - 01/24/2014 : 21:16:51
Made a lot of sense.....right from the heart peace |
| tedbra |
Posted - 01/24/2014 : 20:48:20
Just like 25 years ago, these songs are getting no airplay and I love it. Not many people in the states liked Pixies 1.0, then over time and with the help of Fight Club and the reunion, many came around to a sound that was way ahead of it's time, but 20 years later it didn't sound so different because so many bands had imitated them, so it was easier for these late comers to get it.
I found this to be true with my own friends. I was head over heels for the Pixies in 1994, a year after the breakup, so brutal, but none of my friends really were. Then when the reunion came around, all the sudden all my friends loved the Pixies.
I'm hoping this is what's happening again. Of course none of those newbies are going to like the new stuff, they don't have an ear for music, because if they did they would have liked the Pixies before the reunion.
I love that it's all for the true fans again. God, I hope this made sense.
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| The New Bolero |
Posted - 01/24/2014 : 05:05:31
Back in 04 when the reunion started and we got Bam Thwock and the Zevon cover I remember Kim started rolling out the protect the legacy stuff but Frank restlessly saying something like the hell with the legacy and he'd piss all over the legacy if it meant a chance at recording new Pixies music. Anyone else remember that piss on the legacy quote? |
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