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trobrianders Posted - 01/10/2007 : 19:30:57

So which two other songwriters would you have up there on the podium with Charles.

For me

Obvious - Tom waits and Elvis Costello
Less obvious more personal - Kristin Hersh and Nick Cave

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joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/09/2010 : 04:48:30
thanks! definitely inspired by charles thompson.

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TAMAL Posted - 04/08/2010 : 14:24:35
Nah, but I'll have to get it now!

I like your 'Hot Sex' song.
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/08/2010 : 04:43:19
haha. that is so good. i haven't seen that. thanks!!

have you heard the song "i wish i looked a little better"

the album that song is on is pretty good as well.

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TAMAL Posted - 04/07/2010 : 22:03:15
I'm liking the sounds of that 'A Woofer In Tweeter's Clothing' album! From what I can tell, pretty much all the Sparks music in the 80s was no good, but surely you like their last few? How cool is this, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na8oDCKp6AU
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/07/2010 : 08:06:54
no comment.

:)

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mediumhoot Posted - 04/07/2010 : 07:45:06
I urge you all to listen to Pinkerton by Weezer and discover the talent of Rivers Cuomo :)
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/07/2010 : 05:34:03
heh. uh oh. sorry.

:/

:)

I love the early roxy. I bought avalon (on cassette) after frank recorded remake remodel and was curious as to why he liked this band. I honestly only listened to it a handful of times and then really got into their earlier stuff. I don't hate it. it's just not my bag. but maybe one day. :)

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vilainde Posted - 04/07/2010 : 05:07:49
Don't you dare dissing Avalon! I love that record (and everything RM have ever recorded - except Country Life which isn't too good)

I know nothing about the Sparks except This Town and the Dirtbombs cover, but I'd love to get a listen some day.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/07/2010 : 04:51:33
oh man. it's so good. it came out in 72. and it was so ahead of the game. i always get the title wrong.

'A Woofer In Tweeter's Clothing' is even weirder than Sparks' debut album. In fact it is so weird in places that it freaks you out. Ron's rickety organ is as prevalent as ever, as is Russell's piercing falsetto, and the songs are enhanced by a bewildering array of special effects (e.g. backwards tape loops, speeded up vocals, reverb, lots of distortion etc.). To quote Russell Mael, "We were doing things like sampling - long before 'sampling' was even a term".

I think like roxy music they were best before they got too famous. their later stuff is somewhat hit or miss IMHO.

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TAMAL Posted - 04/06/2010 : 21:16:27
Eh? Just 'Sparks' then. I don't have that album you mentioned yet, but I'll get it soon for sure! I just got into them, and I'm totally addicted.

No time for relationship, skip the foreplay let her rip, you gotta beat the clock!
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/05/2010 : 05:55:06
that is sarcasm right?

and i thought it was "sparks", not the "sparks"

a tweeter in wolves clothing is an amzing album.

we cover girl from germany. great song.

and the dirtbombs do a wonderful cover of sherlock holmes:

http://popup.lala.com/popup/937030214737725902


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coastline Posted - 04/04/2010 : 16:56:16
Since I last posted in this thread, I've discovered Josh Ritter, who is right alongside Frank for me. Not as edgy as Frank, but just as interesting.



And all of this for nuthin', after all my huffin' and puffin'.
TAMAL Posted - 04/04/2010 : 01:05:46

These three are all balancing on the first place podium:

Frank Black, Captain Beefheart, and The Sparks.
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/01/2010 : 11:10:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us4-kAVVFSA

this was the second vid i watched. i like.

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joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/01/2010 : 10:58:09
cool, i will check it out. what album do you recomend i start with?

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ClassicalRey Posted - 04/01/2010 : 10:36:59
R. Stevie Moore is some kind of lo-fi legend. Some say he's a DIY pioneer. He's been making and publishing his music since the late seventies. He plays whatever he wants, so he isn't really pinned down to one genre of music.
Here's a lot of videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/autosam#g/u
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 04/01/2010 : 09:16:55
who is r. stevie moore?

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ChickenOfDepression Posted - 04/01/2010 : 08:34:08
Brian Wilson
Ween
Tom Waits
Harry Nilsson


treetime Posted - 03/31/2010 : 23:18:32
I do prefer Black Francis, but in a list of great muscial acts of my lifetime I would have to add the Beastie Boys.
Idalgo Clandestino Posted - 03/31/2010 : 12:07:45
quote:
Originally posted by trobrianders


So which two other songwriters would you have up there on the podium with Charles.

For me

Obvious - Tom waits and Elvis Costello
Less obvious more personal - Kristin Hersh and Nick Cave

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Ed is the hoo hoo




Charles, Charles and Charles



you probably thought i'm a shy guy
ClassicalRey Posted - 03/31/2010 : 11:57:51
R. Stevie Moore sure can put some words together when he wants to.
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/31/2010 : 11:28:14
that was also a great concert. at least the first time i saw him. in 08 i think. the 09 show was pretty good too. definitely worth seeing at least once (have you seen the documentary about him?

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vilainde Posted - 03/31/2010 : 09:12:23
That must have been quite something.
On a slightly related note, I'm going to see Daniel Johnston in concert in 2 weeks.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/31/2010 : 07:28:30
wesley willis live was one of the best shows i ever went to.

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vilainde Posted - 03/31/2010 : 05:07:26
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Wesley WIllis comes very close. Very close.




Rock over Portland!


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/31/2010 : 05:04:39
i agree with john and johm. who is dean?

i put guided by voices best of on my list of albums to buy. i had a few of theirs and never really got into them. i will listen more now.

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martha_promise Posted - 03/30/2010 : 18:24:19
Yeah Townes.

Robert Pollard should probably head up just about any list.

Dean Wells.

John Flansburgh & John Linnell.

I think I might have already posted in this thread before. Deja-vu and all.

-Tom

...there is a hole for every soul...
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/30/2010 : 11:43:49
quote:
Originally posted by Brank_Flack

Well for me, and this is no slight to Frank, the best songwriters of all time are: Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Leonard Cohen (two Canadians, woot!).
Songwriters i would put around the same level as frank: Townes Van Zandt, Lou Reed, Johnny Cash, Kurt Cobain, Nick Cave, Tom Waits, John Lennon, Jack White, Daniel Johnston and more that I can't think of this second.

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thansk! i forgot townes, cobain, cave, jack white, and paul simon.

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Brank_Flack Posted - 03/30/2010 : 06:33:25
I put Townes on mine, and i agree he fully deserves to be on any songwriting list. Maybe he's not on many because he's somewhat of a lesser known songwriter ( a cult songwriter), and maybe because alot of frank black fans will come from more of an alternative background than a country background.

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surrys Posted - 03/30/2010 : 05:34:52
why so little love for townes? i've got frank in my top three, no doubt, but barely.

townes
dylan
frank

done.
Brank_Flack Posted - 03/29/2010 : 14:16:55
Well for me, and this is no slight to Frank, the best songwriters of all time are: Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Leonard Cohen (two Canadians, woot!).
Songwriters i would put around the same level as frank: Townes Van Zandt, Lou Reed, Johnny Cash, Kurt Cobain, Nick Cave, Tom Waits, John Lennon, Jack White, Daniel Johnston and more that I can't think of this second.

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johnnyribcage Posted - 03/29/2010 : 14:05:00
Wesley WIllis comes very close. Very close.



Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/29/2010 : 11:53:02
People such as adam greene have definitey written great songs, as well as elvis costello (who has made 3 amazing albums (imho)) and a few that blow (imho). he and bowie are what i would consider prolific song writers. and they are some of my faves.

but my all-time faves, the ones i tihnk are the best are ones that i think are not only prolific, (although obviously not required to be as you will see as you look after the first few on my list) but consistent and they are the ones that top the list.

And in order they would be:

1. Frank Black Francis
2. Bob Dylan (also made some not so great stuff but he had almost 20 years straight of amazing music before that.)
3. Stephen Malkmus
4. Lou Reed
5. Mick Jagger / Keith Richards
6. Mick Collins
7. John Lennon (and sometimes Mcartney)
8. Neil Young
9. Ray Davies
10. Michael Stipe
11. Tom Waits
12. Beck
13. Brian Wilson
14. Prince
15. Daniel Johnston
16. Iggy Pop
17. Jonathan Richman
18. Sly Stone
19. Stevie Wonder
20. Bruce Springsteen
21. Wayne Coyne
22. Gordon Gano
23. Otis Redding
24. Robert Johnson
25. Arthur Lee
26. Curtis Mayfeild
27. Thurston Moore
28. Wesley Willis
29. Gregory Miles Harris

guilty pleasures: Eddie Vedder (eek)

I feel like i;m forgetting a bunch of people. it's hard to rate from 1 to 30. these list could change everyday.

:)

yes, besides fb alot of these started solid and had many years/albums of sucky work imho.

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joe FITZ of molly BANG Posted - 03/29/2010 : 09:26:02
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Frank is great, but Bob Dylan is king, in my book. But it's no knock on Frank Black to say he's not quite Bob Dylan when it comes to songwriting. Frank comes right after Bob. My other favorites include Lucinda Williams, Randy Newman, and Leonard Cohen. And for a minute there, I thought Nellie McKay was gonna be a great songwriter. Except she quit writing good songs after one brilliant album ("Get Away From Me"). And -- don't laugh -- I think Elton John is a pretty damn good songwriter.


And aren't you havin' fun?



nelllie mckay should get rid of the band and jkust play piano and sing by herself she has a bunch of potential.

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trobrianders Posted - 03/29/2010 : 03:29:56
I never got round to mentioning Kate Bush. Weird and pretentious but still good.

Did VoVat mention Andy Partridge?

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