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| kepeb |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 18:40:56
Has this topic already been brought up???
if so please re-direct me but a close friend recently suggested that Frank is obsessed with the water.
and as much of a fan as i am, i am inclined to agree.
what percentage of all Frank Black songs/Pixies songs have even a slight 'water' reference?
to name a few and start this off...
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Wave of Mutilation 'multiple references inc. 'Crustation'
"down by the water, you'll find your happy days/and we make love beside the water way" Burn Today
"whats that floating in the water" - "Neptunes Daughter" Mr Greives
Selkie Bride fishermans storys Dipict many waterey scenes with this.
Song Of the Shrimp
Barthoemew 'Laid by a river'
21 reasons 'From the water jumped a bloody hand'
Announcement 'Beyond the waves of the bay
Between water and light'
Dog in the Sand 'Where the water glows
Where the water glows'
Monkeys gone to heaven 'An underwater guy who controlled the sea'
Pray for the Girls 'Felt underwater when I tried to scream'
Where Is My Mind? 'I was swimming in the Caribbean
animals were hiding behind the rock
except the little fish'
Cult of ray 'In the deep water
Is an old man...'
etc.
what do you think? |
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| Carl |
Posted - 08/23/2006 : 10:07:37
I've managed to get hold of lyrics for a as-yet-unreleased Frank song:
Water.
Water! water!
Liquid!! H20!
Sea! ocean! river! brook!
Water references!
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| coastline |
Posted - 08/23/2006 : 08:50:27
Back when I liked Live (their first two albums -- Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper), I noticed they mentioned water an inordinate number of times. Like mixedbizz said, water is the ultimate metaphor. And good songwriters know how to exploit that.
Jefrey with one F, I like your handle. Are you really a Jefrey with one F?
 Look, a pony! |
| hammerhands |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 20:40:21
soaking...hehe |
| johnnyribcage |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 19:59:03
Looking at all of Frank's output, one can say, yes, water is a reoccurring lyrical theme/tool/ambiance-setter. However, take a look at almost every other long-term successful songsmith. Within the rock/country/blues idiom, water is mentioned so often and consistently that it is actually pretty unremarkable. What makes it cool is how you use it within a given lyrical context. Just off the top of my head, I'll throw out a few bands/artists that mention water fairly often. Beach Boys (obvious), Johnny Cash, Les Claypool/Primus, Mance Lipscomb, Pearl Jam, Led Zeppelin, Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler, Doors, Bob Dylan, Grateful Dead, The Band, Cat Stephens, Rolling Stones; I know I'm mostly naming big name bands here, many of which are classic rock bands that take more than their share of lyrical influence from older music, mostly blues and folk, in which water pops up lyrically as often as the springtime rain shower. I don't have too much of a problem refering to FB and Rolling Stones in the same paragraph either. Listen to Exile on Main Street and follow it up with Devil's Workshop. The influence runs pretty deep. I invite you to look through your other non Frank Black albums and start counting the water refrences. Jazz, Blues, Folk, Country, Rock, even non lyrical classical. It seems to always be there.
I'm willing to bet if asked, Charles would likely point out water's significance in American music as well. It's fairly obvious from his last four or five albums that he has really been soaking up some more traditional music, lately. Anyway, that's my thoughts on it. |
| coastline |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 13:30:24
And don't forget about Coastline (the song). It's not precisely about the water -- it's about where the land meets the water.
Look, a pony! |
| mixedbizz |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 12:34:26
How is American beer like having sex in a canoe?
It's f*cking close to water!
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| floop |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 11:50:29
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
I've seen Frank drinking bottled water before. Also, his home very likely has running water.
Water is probably very important to him.
ehehhehehehheh |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 11:48:15
CHIP AWAY BOY - talks about a sluiceway
SOUTHBOUND BEVY - talks about a levy
BARTHOLOMEW - talks about laying beside a stream
SURF EPIC - doesn't talk about anything, but it's about the surf
Hank the 8th was a duplicated man
-bRIAN |
| coastline |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 09:16:44
Yeah, but isn't that actually beer?
Look, a pony! |
| phys |
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 07:10:51
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
I've seen Frank drinking bottled water before. Also, his home very likely has running water.
Water is probably very important to him.
and a bottle of cold Bohemia, that’s the best water he ever had ! |
| Jason |
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 11:22:56
I've seen Frank drinking bottled water before. Also, his home very likely has running water.
Water is probably very important to him.
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| Carl |
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 10:26:01
Right. Duh. Duly corrected, Mr. Dough.
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| mr.biscuitdoughhead |
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 10:24:25
"Spraying in the windy", Carl.
It's a-me, a Mario!!  |
| Carl |
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 09:30:16
"Pissin' in the windy"-Thallasocracy.
Yes, sorry, 'Spraying'!
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| ruttentud |
Posted - 08/20/2006 : 20:36:21
See topic would be worth discussing, if water played bigger roles in his songs.
Why not listen to Tool's Aenema -- "Learn to swim!" |
| mixedbizz |
Posted - 08/20/2006 : 18:07:04
Water is the ultimate metaphor. It can mean whatever you want it to mean, ie. life, death, fear, sex. Admittedly FB has a gift for exploiting this particular metaphor.
His songs are like lemur skin. |
| ATBNG |
Posted - 08/20/2006 : 08:19:48
There's also the Manta Ray songs. The Sad Punk hoped he'd be evolving from the sea. An album entitled "Show me Your Tears." |
| Waiting for Godot |
Posted - 08/19/2006 : 20:47:21
Three more: Goodbye Lorraine, Out of State, and Billy Radcliffe. Apologies if these have already been mentioned.
Guess the best person to ask this question is Frank Black. |
| 1965 |
Posted - 08/19/2006 : 19:25:18
quote:
Originally posted by kfs
Jet Black River
New House of the Pope
I believe Jet Black River is actually about coffee.
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| IceCream |
Posted - 08/19/2006 : 09:33:08
Yes, Jefrey. Can I steal that, please? |
| Jefrey |
Posted - 08/19/2006 : 02:41:30
Water is life. Yet water can be death. Water can reflect life. Death can be seen beneath water. Some things live in water and cannot live on land. Some thing live on land and need water to live, but would die if they lived in water.
Seems rife for poetry, eh? |
| Carl |
Posted - 08/17/2006 : 06:10:58
Ah, right!
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| Born to Lose |
Posted - 08/17/2006 : 05:08:14
Sugar Daddy is a cover of the song from Hedwig & The Angry Inch. |
| kfs |
Posted - 08/14/2006 : 11:09:07
I love Sugar Daddy! |
| Rupert Onion |
Posted - 08/14/2006 : 10:51:06
Down To The Well |
| Carl |
Posted - 08/14/2006 : 05:59:42
River Euphrates.
Scruvs, what's Sugar Daddy?
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| kfs |
Posted - 08/14/2006 : 05:56:18
Jet Black River
New House of the Pope |
| scruvs |
Posted - 08/13/2006 : 22:52:21
man I've been waiting for one of these since discopedia came out. Yeah I cheated, so what?
21 Reasons
Announcement
Dog In The Sand
End of Summer
I Burn Today
Johnny Barleycorn
Monkey Gone To Heaven
Ole Mulholland
Pray For The Girls
Song Of The Shrimp
St. Francis Dam Disaster
Strange Goodbye
Sugar Daddy
Ten Percenter
The Cult Of Ray
The Real El Rey
Where Is My Mind?
Whiskey In Your Shoes
waterpik count?
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| danjersey |
Posted - 08/13/2006 : 21:27:17
Mix blood and water |
| beckett trance |
Posted - 08/13/2006 : 21:16:47
This thread has cottonmouth.
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| Carl |
Posted - 08/12/2006 : 06:23:49
Don't forget The Swimmer.
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| fbc |
Posted - 08/12/2006 : 02:43:19
well not anymore, the list has been saved! Ole Mulholland! |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 21:16:12
Any list of this sort not including St. Francis Dam Disaster in which the water becomes the central character is surely doomed...
 "No man remains quite what he was when he recognizes himself." |
| 1965 |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 21:13:10
Palace Of The Brine?
Btw, doesn't FB have a new song with a working title: The Water.
you may be on to something...
(( I'm a Snake... )) |
| ScottP |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 20:08:38
Yeah, but water is a great subject when you are really singing about chicks. It's light reflecting properties make it one of the most visually attractive settings in nature, yet beneath lurks mystery, risk, and danger. And that fish smell...
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