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Suicide_Samurai Posted - 07/22/2005 : 12:11:19
..But Honeycomb is just terrible. It says a lot about the album when the best song is Song Of the Shrimp. I can't believe the zealousy in this forum, overhyping such a sub-par album, just because it's "The Man"

Just a few years ago he was in his songwriting prime, writing songs alongside great musicians, now he's playing bad covers of his own songs from 15 years ago with the Pixies, and putting out these lackluste, tame songs as seen on Honeycomb.

His voice just isn't aging very well at all. Is it time to count out the possibility of another truly great album like we saw just a few years ago?

Oh, and don't bother with replies like "If your not a Frank Black fan, don't listen to the music." I am a fan, I'm just not deaf. I imagine this will be a a refreshing change among the sickingly blind views I have seen in every other thread in the forum.
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Captain Howdy Posted - 07/26/2005 : 17:42:46
I am so stoked someone started this thread. I was actually really disappointed when I got the album. I had not downloaded (not because it was wrong, but because i could never find it online) but I had been counting the days to its release and reading every little blurb I could about it. I figured with the line up of musicians it was going to be a lot more country sounding. When I first heard it I really thought it sucked.

That being said i have still been listening to it and it has grown on me, I dunno it just has not lived up to its hype for me. That being said I still think the guy is one of the most prolific songwriters of all time.

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in.
Dinsdale Piranha Posted - 07/26/2005 : 13:56:54
Tell you what,

I think this album is a grower. I got it off itunes the day it came out and I just had to shrug incredulously. WTF was this! Then I went on a lone 4 hour drive out to the cottage, through lakes and winding roads at dusk, happened to put on HC at magic hour with the windows and sunroof open, and BAM!
I got it.
Just take it for what it is and relax with it. Or not. Whatever.

Jim
floop Posted - 07/25/2005 : 08:03:30
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

A FEW WORDS!!!!


ALL OF YOU!!!! Do BETTER if you can.... TRY all along!!!!

INSPIRATION is the key... LOVE is a DOOR.

THANK friends ands foes.

PROGRESS!

****



thanks Joey
manintheshack Posted - 07/25/2005 : 07:34:53
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller

It's totally pointless and off-topic, and I do apologise, but I always misread your handle as "maninthesack".



Is it because I ooze promiscuity? :P

And yes, Brain Dead is the reference.

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I kick arse for the Lord.
Suicide_Samurai Posted - 07/25/2005 : 07:09:21
Ages ago I made a whole thread about the less-than-rocking I'll Be Blue, but now I think DITS would be incomplete without it.
The Marsist Posted - 07/25/2005 : 05:44:08
deep man deep


"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo Posted - 07/25/2005 : 05:41:11
A FEW WORDS!!!!


ALL OF YOU!!!! Do BETTER if you can.... TRY all along!!!!

INSPIRATION is the key... LOVE is a DOOR.

THANK friends ands foes.

PROGRESS!

****
jediroller Posted - 07/25/2005 : 05:19:29
It's totally pointless and off-topic, and I do apologise, but I always misread your handle as "maninthesack".

Is that signature from Braindead/Deadalive by the way?


[Edit: got confused between "handle" and "signature...]



I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004
manintheshack Posted - 07/25/2005 : 05:02:39
Oh god I just re-read that review. It is not my opinion!!!! I'll Be Blue is one of my favourite Frank Black songs. I relinquish all rights to an opinion!

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I kick arse for the Lord.
manintheshack Posted - 07/25/2005 : 04:58:59
Interesting post, I have to say from the raving in the forum I was expecting a masterpiece when Honeycomb flew through the letterbox last week and landed straight into the CD tray (well, it got there so fast it may as well have).

All I know is personally never to judge a frank black album before at least a hundred listens. I made a terrible, terrible error with dog in the sand for which I now pay for with a permanent review on amazon ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004UFTM/qid=1122292249/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-3413362-8870237 ).

I have to say Honeycomb is a strange mix. The first time I heard 'I burn today' it was beautiful, and still is, but I think 'Shrimp Song' and 'Sunday Sunny...' were far better off as rarities (how can you better the glen hansard duet???). They just seem too forced. But give me a week and I may be singing a different tune (metaphorically speaking, I hope).

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I kick arse for the Lord.
jediroller Posted - 07/25/2005 : 02:01:36
P.S. I'm a proud zombie fan now. Honeycomb in the headphones on the way to work and it hit all the right spots today. I love it when music gets to me that way. Change of sig documents epiphany.


I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004
jediroller Posted - 07/25/2005 : 01:55:32
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
Only Frank can cover Where Is My Mind and make it great.



James Blunt sure can't.



My evil twin would lie and steal
And he would stink of sex-appeal
vilainde Posted - 07/25/2005 : 01:40:06
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

I haven't even listened to disc two of FBF yet! I've had it for like five months but haven't even listened to it. Is it really that bad?



I haven't listened to disc one of FBF. Really. Nimrod, check out disc 2, you can't dislike Caribou and WIMM. They're amazing. Only Frank can cover Where Is My Mind and make it great.


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
fbc Posted - 07/23/2005 : 05:20:51
quote:
Originally posted by kelladwella

During the last 45 minutes people posted in 14 different threads in the 'General Frank Black Chat'. But only in one 'General Chat' thread.



sign of the apocalypse
fbc Posted - 07/23/2005 : 04:51:30
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I think the catholics had achieved everything a band like them could.
Do you realise what an awesome journey FB and the C's to SMYT is?


i sure do, bill. and it was a great ride while it lasted.
billgoodman Posted - 07/23/2005 : 00:34:01
I think the catholics had achieved everything a band like them could.
Do you realise what an awesome journey FB and the C's to SMYT is?
I think they stopped at their top, Honeycomb is a new way and I think it's great.
One thing that's so wonderful about Frank is that he changes his way once in a while,
that keeps his music fresh. If you don't like it, wait a few years and it's likely
he will do a marimba-techno album or something. Can't wait


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God save the Noisies
evilive1213 Posted - 07/22/2005 : 21:52:52
I feel Honeycomb is a another album in FB's evolution, and exactly what some of us need to hear. I know it's cliched and kind of sappy, but SMYT came out the same time I was separated from my wife and it helped me see what was important. If SMYT was about regret, and sorrow, then Honeycomb for me is coming through the other side. As much as I love the Pixies (Lord knows I do), FB's solo work speaks to me much more so in my advanced age.
Stuart Posted - 07/22/2005 : 16:58:27
I was critical of Honeycomb for a long time and thought that Frank had lost it with this album.... but now and after a large number of listens I am growing to love this album. I think its difficult to compare it with his other albums because its so different but I am starting to really like it. There are a couple of songs that don't do anything for me tho.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
VoVat Posted - 07/22/2005 : 16:52:28
quote:
During the last 45 minutes people posted in 14 different threads in the 'General Frank Black Chat'.
But only in one 'General Chat' thread.


The balance of power has shifted!

I have to say I was kind of surprised by how good Honeycomb was. I mean, I wasn't expecting not to like it, but most Frank albums take a while to grow on me. While there are some Honeycomb tracks that definitely fall into the "grower" category, there were quite a few that I liked pretty much immediately. Indeed, I might say it's the most instantly likeable Frank album since DITS. I think I already like it more than SMYT. Only time will tell what I think of it after it ceases to be the New Album, but I have to say that I like it. And I wouldn't have been afraid to say I didn't like it, if such had been the case.

Speaking of disliking, I don't care for the Frank Black Francis remix of "Planet Of Sound" at all. So there.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
Stevio10 Posted - 07/22/2005 : 16:38:38
Hey Floop, how come you don't have the 'fooglie' in your username anymore?!
scruvs Posted - 07/22/2005 : 16:04:02
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

I could not find my Honeycomb.

Seriously, what does that mean, anyway? Is that a metaphor? An enigma? What?


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank




just means he's looking for this




_____________________
Boy, you sure can holler.
The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:45:58
i think the board is really entertaining tonite atually

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

kelladwella Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:43:35
During the last 45 minutes people posted in 14 different threads in the 'General Frank Black Chat'.
But only in one 'General Chat' thread.
The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:40:51
quote:
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by The Marsist

i like honeycomb



zombie





i deserve that

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:36:11
sing for joy is my fave at he moment

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

jtanner Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:33:53
Honeycomb might be my favorite song on Honeycomb. It's early though.
floop Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:29:34
quote:
Originally posted by The Marsist

i like honeycomb



zombie
The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:20:21
try harder its your duty as a REAL frank fan to like everything the man has ever laid hhis had to, just kidding.

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

jtanner Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:18:44
I'm trying to like Honeycomb.
billgoodman Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:15:50
I like honeycomb
last time I checked I wasn't deaf
no problem there




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God save the Noisies
The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:11:55
i like honeycomb

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

Frog in the Sand Posted - 07/22/2005 : 15:05:44
To summarize this thread:

1. Nobody here likes Honeycomb, except me.

2. In fact I don't really like Honeycomb but I don't want to disappoint Mr. Tiven, that's why I say I like it.

3. [censored]




Join the Cult of France / And get Honeycomb weeks in advance
Carl Posted - 07/22/2005 : 14:55:52
I've only heard I Burn Today, Honeycomb and Dark End Of The Street, but those first two have grabbed me already!
The Marsist Posted - 07/22/2005 : 14:31:35
quote:
i didn't mean to say he doesn't care about his fans..


yeh i no thats not what you meant

"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black

Shelobe Posted - 07/22/2005 : 14:19:28
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

I haven't even listened to disc two of FBF yet! I've had it for like five months but haven't even listened to it. Is it really that bad?


ˇViva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/




I didn't enjoy it, I tried to give it a chance, maybe it would grow on me like so many others, but no, it never did.

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