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| chipahoyboy |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 13:25:16
The Hangover Cafe is a radio show on Sunday mornings in Indianapolis. Frank was the guest on this Sunday's show. I only caught a couple of the phone interview questions. It was kind of pathetic because you could tell the DJ had little or no knowledge of FB or The Pixies. One interesting comment from Frank is that one of his favorite bands from the 80's was The Pogues. |
| 35 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:13:14
I will say again, if you are looking for a band out there that captures the originality and power of the original Pogues, it is Flogging Molly.
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| The Susquatch |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 18:08:59
At one of the pogues concerts i went to that Shane was frontman, The Dubliners played 2 and their was no dip in quality which i expected coz i wasnt a dubliners fan but they were outstanding to keep the theme of a great night
Hang on to your Taco! |
| Carl |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 13:25:14
The Dubliners are terrific. I remember hearing 'Poor Paddy Works On The Railway' and thinking it would sound great played punk rock-style. Then I discovered The Pogues cover it!! |
| The Susquatch |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 16:06:55
Wildcats of Kilkenny is one of my favourites no doubt but carl, i much prefer the pogues version of and the band played waltzing mathilda. I just feel it more. Maybe just coz i heard it from the pogues before the dubliners' but i think the dubliners' are outstanding at what they do. Maybe too underrated..
Hang on to your Taco! |
| Carl |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 13:25:53
No, I used to work in Jurys. My Dad lives out that way and bumps into him the odd time. |
| BrendanT |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 13:19:50
Hey Carl, do you work in the La Touche in Greystones? I know that Mr. Drew lives just up the road by the Golf.
The Wolfetones were actually playing the La Touche the evening I was passing through.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
| Carl |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 11:14:43
I always love Wildcats Of Kilkenny. I don't like there version of And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda. The Dubliners' version is great, I love Ronnie Drew's vocals. Incidentally, Ronnie Drew actually came into the hotel shop I worked in(that I mentioned in an earlier post)that Shane Mcgowan came into. He was looking at The Dubliners' CDs on display!
CARL.
 "Join up, conform and wear a different uniform!"
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| vilainde |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 04:32:58
Hell's Ditch was the end of the Pogues. Shane was drinking too much and could not make it to the studio. The record company was pushing the Pogues for a quick recording. Some of the songs are excellent, like "Sunnyside of the Street", "Sayonara," "House of the Gods" and "Rain Street." However, the other songs seemed way too pop and overproduced. It is not an album received well by many Pogues fans, but I do like it as well, Frog.
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Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
| The Susquatch |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 04:21:41
Rum, sodomy and the lash has to be my favourite Pogues album. Its great to hear that Frank was into them. You can see why of course, shane and himself are very similar in talent and madness;) Frank just kept his head and his liver. But you cant really fault shane either. Was it ever gonna go any other way? Its a beautiful tragedy. Seen Shane do a Gig with the popes in Cork. His sister was playing on stage and he took her on a drunken waltz. Seen him with the pogues in dublin twice. Hot bananas. Seen Frank accoustic solo and with the catholics in dublin over a year ago. Smoking bananas. I feel blessed;)
Hang on to your Taco! |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 02/21/2005 : 16:39:49
Hell's Ditch was the end of the Pogues. Shane was drinking too much and could not make it to the studio. The record company was pushing the Pogues for a quick recording. Some of the songs are excellent, like "Sunnyside of the Street", "Sayonara," "House of the Gods" and "Rain Street." However, the other songs seemed way too pop and overproduced. It is not an album received well by many Pogues fans, but I do like it as well, Frog.
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| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 02/19/2005 : 05:30:02
Strummer also produced 'Hell's Ditch', which I personally consider the best - and most underrated - album of the MacGowan era. |
| n/a |
Posted - 02/18/2005 : 17:04:50
quote:
Originally posted by SHAZEB ANDLEEB
Strummer was a GOD! The Clash and his post Clash projects were great and I own them all, including the various soundtracks and singles he did, like "Love Kills" and "Baby the Trans." Died way too young. HOWEVER, we would not have replaced Shane. They are nothing alike, in personality, style or sound. MOREOVER, Shane has always been the dominant writer in all of his bands, especially lyrically. Now whether he composes the music, maybe not, however, a lot of the songs are traditional Irish ballads, none of his other band mates can claim those either. It was always Shane's voice that made the Pogues, always. Chevron wrote "Thousands are Sailing", OK, but Shane made it come to life.
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I tottaly agree with you, Stummer man was a God! And they also played together, I only knew that when I listened a concert that the Pogues did with him.
Tell me how this story ends
Before the fires go cold |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 02/18/2005 : 16:58:58
Well, the Pogues did split after Mahone. However, they are touring with Shane (limited). And Shane has said he would consider doing a new album with them, so why replace him. The Popes are not really Shane's band, he just uses them. I have a Popes' album, it has a cut with Shane on it. Not a bad album, but not great. For my money, only Flogging Molly is close to capturing that Pogues sound.
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| BrendanT |
Posted - 02/18/2005 : 06:53:38
I completely agree that Shane can never be replaced. Although it seems that he has created the legend that will never allow him to be replaced. He has told the stories of the downtrodden with vigour and hope. Not many can do that. Wait, there is Mr. Waits. Anyways, I think that the friendship that the clique (Strummer, MacGowan, Moore, Hollidai) had and still have will fill in the imperfect cracks. Great musicians seem to be able to transcend everything. I think that one might be able to say that the Pogues without Shane is like Great Britain without the Queen. It will still exist but there is something intrinsically missing.
By the way. Frogger, do I win something for my taste in music? ;) I just figured if congratulations were in order?
Have a great day people.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 02/17/2005 : 16:28:18
Strummer was a GOD! The Clash and his post Clash projects were great and I own them all, including the various soundtracks and singles he did, like "Love Kills" and "Baby the Trans." Died way too young. HOWEVER, we would not have replaced Shane. They are nothing alike, in personality, style or sound. MOREOVER, Shane has always been the dominant writer in all of his bands, especially lyrically. Now whether he composes the music, maybe not, however, a lot of the songs are traditional Irish ballads, none of his other band mates can claim those either. It was always Shane's voice that made the Pogues, always. Chevron wrote "Thousands are Sailing", OK, but Shane made it come to life.
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| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 02/17/2005 : 15:47:29
The Pogues, Strummer... Congrats, you definitely have good taste, Brendan :) |
| BrendanT |
Posted - 02/17/2005 : 14:23:40
Great few points Frogger. The mention of Joe always solififies arguements.
I wanted to mention as well that the Pogues played Tuesday Morning as well as Once Upon A Time at the show during Christmas. Thousands Are Sailing is also sung by Phil Chevron.
Take care.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 02/17/2005 : 12:27:23
Imo Waiting for Herb is overproduced and a bit too 'clean', but it's still one of the most varied and colorful albums the Pogues have released. Its best tracks (Haunting, Once Upon A Time, Drunken Boat) count also among the best of the band, with or without Shane. And I sincerely think Pogue Mahone is at least as good, though a little less varied.
Btw, I don't think Joe Strummer would have spontaneously replaced Shane on the WFH tour if he hadn't liked this album... |
| BrendanT |
Posted - 02/17/2005 : 10:42:19
Hey Shazeb. Sorry about that. I mustn't have been paying attention.
Anyways. Has anyone heard of the Radiators From Space? It is a band that Phillip Chevron was involved in.
I have to disagree that the rest of the studio albums are not worth a dime. Shano was not the only talented musician involved in the songwriting at the time. He could definitely string words together and belt them out but the music composition was not all Shane. Waiting For Herb is a decent effort put together by Spider, Phillip and the rest of the gang. Why does Shane and The Popes ever get a mention. He is not even the main song writer in the Popes either. Not taking anything away from Shane but I think it is unfair to Cait, Spider and the rest of the Pogues to denounce their efforts.
Anyways, later.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 16:43:19
The Pogues Greatest Albums (In Order)
1. If I Should Fall From Grace With God- So strong and diverse
2. Red Roses For Me- The Best Drinking album
3. Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash- Strong from top to bottom
4. Hell's Ditch- Shane has some great rockers on this one "Mekong Whiskey"
5. Peace and Love- Not enough Shane on this one, but Shane's songs are great!
All the rest of their studio albums are without Shane and not worth a dime.
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| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 14:45:25
Oops, 2 to 7 bonus tracks actually:
'Red Roses for Me': The Leaving of Liverpool / Muirshin Durkin / Repeal of the Licensing Laws / And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda (early version) / Whiskey You're the Devil / The Wild Rover.
'Rum, Sodomy and the Lash': A Pistol for Paddy Garcia / London Girl / Rainy Night in Soho / Body of an American / Planxty Noel Hill / The Parting Glass.
'If I Should Fall from Grace with God': The Battle March / The Irish Rover / Mountain Drew / Shanne Bradley / Sketches of Spain / South Australia.
'Peace and Love': Star of the County Down / The Limerick Rake / Train of Love / Every Man Is A King / Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah / Honky Tonk Women.
'Hell's Ditch': Whiskey in the Jar / Bastard Landlord / Infinity / Curse of Love / Squid Out of Water / Jack's Heroes / Rainy Night in Soho (remix).
'Waiting for Herb': First Day of Forever / Train Kept Rolling On / Paris St. Germain.
'Pogue Mahone': Eyes of an Angel / Love You Till The End (early version).
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 13:15:49
cool, each album has 5 - 7 bonus tracks?
i noticed in the store the other day rhino released elvis costello's early albums with bonus discs (live stuff, b-sides and demos). echo and the bunnymen too!
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 05:48:13
Blood'n'guts, how could I miss this topic??? I count among the earliest and most ardent fans of the Pogues. Glad to learn that Frank loves them too 
For those interested, their 7 official albums have just been re-released with 5 to 7 extra-tracks - mostly b-sides and now-rare EPs like 'Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah', 'Rainy Night In Soho' and 'The Irish Rover'. *** Highly recommended ***
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 02:47:40
Uhhhh, did shineoftheever just use my entire post as his post? And did BrendanT just respond to shineoftheever, when in fact shineofthever had just copied my post in its entirety? Uhhhhh...
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| shineoftheever |
Posted - 02/16/2005 : 01:05:24
The Pogues are still one my favorite bands and speaking of reunions, Shane is rejoining with them to do a tour. Shane even went so far as to say he would be open to doing another album. I love Shane MacGowan and the Popes as well. I was able to see the Pogues tour twice, but missed my chance to see Shane tour solo. Shane is such a genius, but his self-destructive nature has limited his body of work. You could say he is the opposite of Frank when it comes to producing recordings. 
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 02/15/2005 : 20:15:45
Uhhhh, did Cabonga just use my entire post as his post? And did BrendanT just respond to Cabonga, when in fact Cabonga had just copied my post in its entirety? Uhhhhh...
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| BrendanT |
Posted - 02/04/2005 : 13:03:58
Hey Cabonga - I just witnessed the Pogues in all of their glory at the Point Depot in Dublin two days before Christmas. Still coming down from the show. I actually met a guy from Boston who seemed to know quite a bit about Frank and the Pixies. In fact he called him Chuck and now that I think about it seemed to resemble Charles very much. Who knows? Too stoked to think about Frank with Shano and the Pogues on my mind! Oh well!
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
| Cabonga |
Posted - 02/03/2005 : 16:27:26
The Pogues are still one my favorite bands and speaking of reunions, Shane is rejoining with them to do a tour. Shane even went so far as to say he would be open to doing another album. I love Shane MacGowan and the Popes as well. I was able to see the Pogues tour twice, but missed my chance to see Shane tour solo. Shane is such a genius, but his self-destructive nature has limited his body of work. You could say he is the opposite of Frank when it comes to producing recordings.
Die Harder |
| SHAZEB ANDLEEB |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 16:58:56
The Pogues are still one my favorite bands and speaking of reunions, Shane is rejoining with them to do a tour. Shane even went so far as to say he would be open to doing another album. I love Shane MacGowan and the Popes as well. I was able to see the Pogues tour twice, but missed my chance to see Shane tour solo. Shane is such a genius, but his self-destructive nature has limited his body of work. You could say he is the opposite of Frank when it comes to producing recordings.
"I'm Thalassocracy and you're just Romanov!" |
| Newo |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 05:58:27
In Dublin 2001 the second last song he played, before Where Is My Mind I think, was Dirty Old Town.
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You know the man you hate? you look more like him every day. |
| Daisy Girl |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 21:42:51
Wow thanks that's great I used to listen to the Hangover cafe when I lived there. Wild. I didn't know they did interviews on the show. Very cool! Wow the Pogues.. they're a good band. Not as good as Frank's stuff but very cool band nonetheless!
If I remember correctly, I think the Host's name was Dave Dugan. He seemed to be more of a comedian than someone into music.
That station was more of a hard-rock alternative (didn't start out that way) and never played the Pixies or Frank Black in favor of Metalica and Sound Garden stuff. |
| BLT |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 11:08:28
quote:
Originally posted by Carl
There's a lot of screaming and general musical oddness with The Pogues, I kind of feel there's a bit of a connection there. Shane McGowan once came into a hotel shop I worked in and before he turned around and I saw who it was, I thought he was some drunkard who might cause trouble...well, he did'nt cause trouble, anyway!
He didn't leave any teeth behind, did he? |
| Carl |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:17:50
There's a lot of screaming and general musical oddness with The Pogues, I kind of feel there's a bit of a connection there. Shane McGowan once came into a hotel shop I worked in and before he turned around and I saw who it was, I thought he was some drunkard who might cause trouble...well, he did'nt cause trouble, anyway! |
| hWolsky |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:05:42
Some songs on Show me yr tears sound quite like the Pogues...
Mother Fist and Her Five Daughters |
| Carl |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 08:58:04
www.thehangovercafe.com
This must be their website. Can't see anything about the radio show and Frank, although I did'nt really look. They like their porn, don't they?!! |
